Trade Landscape/Trade Ideas

brackdan70 · Post #1481 » by **brackdan70** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:19 pm

Bohemian wrote:Do you guys think Ainge will try to trade for Gordon Hayward before the deadline?

I think he should but it depends how much Utah wants in return. Not sure if or how much Ainge like Hayward?

his salary this year is 3.4 million so if we made another move that shaved of 1.5 million we could use the TPE and still stay under the tax. In that case I would give any two picks except our best pick this year and Brooklyns 2016 pick. If Utah is willing to match any offer in free agency then they probably won't part with him unless they are blown away.

mercury · Post #1482 » by **mercury** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:26 pm

Thoughts on?
C's out- Rondo, Green
Det Out- Villanueva (exp), Monroe, Jennings

brackdan70 · Post #1483 » by **brackdan70** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:51 pm

mercury wrote:Thoughts on?
C's out- Rondo, Green
Det Out- Villanueva (exp), Monroe, Jennings

I would not be to keen on that. Monroe will likely command more than he is worth next summer so we would lose him or overpay.

ddb · Post #1484 » by **ddb** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:17 am

mercury wrote:Thoughts on?
C's out- Rondo, Green
Det Out- Villanueva (exp), Monroe, Jennings

gross, no

stinger14 · Post #1485 » by **stinger14** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:29 am

3 team trade

Boston
Gets Gordon Hayward

Charlotte
Gets Jeff Green and Marvin Williams

Utah
Gets Ben Gordon's expiring and Charlotte 2nd round pick in 2015

sdballer · Post #1486 » by **sdballer** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:41 am

stinger14 wrote:3 team trade

Boston
Gets Gordon Hayward

Charlotte
Gets Jeff Green and Marvin Williams

Utah
Gets Ben Gordon's expiring and Charlotte 2nd round pick in 2015

Why would Utah ever do this?

DK-All Day · Post #1487 » by **DK-All Day** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:54 am

stinger14 wrote:3 team trade

Boston
Gets Gordon Hayward

Charlotte
Gets Jeff Green and Marvin Williams

Utah
Gets Ben Gordon's expiring and Charlotte 2nd round pick in 2015

Atrocious for UTA. :lol:

BleedGreen1989 · Post #1488 » by **BleedGreen1989** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:03 am

mercury wrote:Thoughts on?
C's out- Rondo, Green
Det Out- Villanueva (exp), Monroe, Jennings

Horrible.

I would consider Jeff Green for that package minus Jennings.

Rondo doesn't even enter the conversation.

GreenMachine · Post #1489 » by **GreenMachine** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:52 am

sdballer wrote:
stinger14 wrote:3 team trade

Boston
Gets Gordon Hayward

Charlotte
Gets Jeff Green and Marvin Williams

Utah
Gets Ben Gordon's expiring and Charlotte 2nd round pick in 2015

Why would Utah ever do this?

They wouldn't. Even if that 2nd was 2 firsts.

stinger14 · Post #1490 » by **stinger14** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:55 pm

Lol.. yes that is a bad deal for Utah. The expiring along with other expirings on their roster would make them players in free agency. The second round pick may need to be a future first. However you look at it though Williams will probably leave in free agency with no return from him. Hayward probably leaves in free agency too with no return.

I would guess a good sized expiring and a draft pick is better than nothing for those two

brackdan70 · Post #1491 » by **brackdan70** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:24 pm

stinger14 wrote:Lol.. yes that is a bad deal for Utah. The expiring along with other expirings on their roster would make them players in free agency. The second round pick may need to be a future first. However you look at it though Williams will probably leave in free agency with no return from him. Hayward probably leaves in free agency too with no return.

I would guess a good sized expiring and a draft pick is better than nothing for those two

Utah would need at least two firsts in that scenario.

stinger14 · Post #1492 » by **stinger14** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:28 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
stinger14 wrote:Lol.. yes that is a bad deal for Utah. The expiring along with other expirings on their roster would make them players in free agency. The second round pick may need to be a future first. However you look at it though Williams will probably leave in free agency with no return from him. Hayward probably leaves in free agency too with no return.

I would guess a good sized expiring and a draft pick is better than nothing for those two

Utah would need at least two firsts in that scenario.

You are probably correct. So they will probably just watch both guys walk and get nothing in return

j_angel · Post #1493 » by **j_angel** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:33 pm

Id like to take Mayo/Sanders from Milwaukee if possible. Give up anyone apart from Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sully.

Rondo -
Mayo - Bradley
Green -
Sullinger - Olynyk
Sanders -

I think that could be a decent team.

Maybe start by sending Bass to Houston & TRob to the Bucks, then expirings and incentive to Milwaukee. I assume 2015 LAC 1st would be a starting point. Wonder if we would need another 1st in there as well. (Ideally they would take Crawford).

Humphries, TRob, Crawford, 1st for Sanders/Mayo - does that get it done? Its hard to tell with Milwaukee.

brackdan70 · Post #1494 » by **brackdan70** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:42 pm

stinger14 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
stinger14 wrote:Lol.. yes that is a bad deal for Utah. The expiring along with other expirings on their roster would make them players in free agency. The second round pick may need to be a future first. However you look at it though Williams will probably leave in free agency with no return from him. Hayward probably leaves in free agency too with no return.

I would guess a good sized expiring and a draft pick is better than nothing for those two

Utah would need at least two firsts in that scenario.

You are probably correct. So they will probably just watch both guys walk and get nothing in return

I don't think they care about Williams. They will likely try to get some assets for Hayward or match an offer sheet.

Florida celtic · Post #1495 » by **Florida celtic** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:13 pm

Who says no?

Boston gets:

Gordon, Sessions,

Charlotte gets:

Bass, Wallace, Brooks

brackdan70 · Post #1496 » by **brackdan70** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:30 pm

Florida celtic wrote:Who says no?

Boston gets:

Gordon, Sessions,

Charlotte gets:

Bass, Wallace, Brooks

well I think Charlotte says no way, taking on a ton of Salary for next 3 years for what? replace Wallace with hump and maybe you have a trade.

Florida celtic · Post #1497 » by **Florida celtic** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:05 pm

Ok. What about this Boston Charlotte supertrade:

Boston gets:

Sessions (pg) Gordon (sg) Tolliver (sf) Mcroberts (pf) Biyombo (c)

Charlotte gets:

Crawford (pg) Bogans (sg) Wallace (sf) Bass (pf) Faverani (c)

Boston gets 25 million in salary this year and ships out 25 mill this year

brackdan70 wrote:
Florida celtic wrote:Who says no?

Boston gets:

Gordon, Sessions,

Charlotte gets:

Bass, Wallace, Brooks

well I think Charlotte says no way, taking on a ton of Salary for next 3 years for what? replace Wallace with hump and maybe you have a trade.

brackdan70 · Post #1498 » by **brackdan70** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:14 pm

Florida celtic wrote:Ok. What about this Boston Charlotte supertrade:

Boston gets:

Sessions (pg) Gordon (sg) Tolliver (sf) Mcroberts (pf) Biyombo (c)

Charlotte gets:

Crawford (pg) Bogans (sg) Wallace (sf) Bass (pf) Faverani (c)

Boston gets 25 million in salary this year and ships out 25 mill this year

brackdan70 wrote:
Florida celtic wrote:Who says no?

Boston gets:

Gordon, Sessions,

Charlotte gets:

Bass, Wallace, Brooks

well I think Charlotte says no way, taking on a ton of Salary for next 3 years for what? replace Wallace with hump and maybe you have a trade.

the problem is Wallace. You will have to throw a first rounder and/or take back a near equally bad contract/s to even get a call back.

Florida celtic · Post #1499 » by **Florida celtic** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:30 pm

I was thinking Charlotte might be interested in buying low on Wallace sunce it is not a huge FA destination with all its cap space.

Ok how about this:

Milwaukee

Out-- Ilyasova Middleton
In-- Wallace Biyombo

Charlotte
Out-- Gordon Biyombo
In-- Ilyasova Crawford

Boston
Out-- Wallace Crawford
In-- Gordon middleton

Logic: Bucks reduce their bad contract length from 3-4 years compacting it into 2. Bobcats take a chance on riding Ilyasova to playoffs as they have more difficulty attracting FA.

24istheLAW · Post #1500 » by **24istheLAW** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:54 pm

Florida celtic wrote:I was thinking Charlotte might be interested in buying low on Wallace sunce it is not a huge FA destination with all its cap space.

Ok how about this:

Milwaukee

Out-- Ilyasova Middleton
In-- Wallace Biyombo

Charlotte
Out-- Gordon Biyombo
In-- Ilyasova Crawford

Boston
Out-- Wallace Crawford
In-- Gordon middleton

Logic: Bucks reduce their bad contract length from 3-4 years compacting it into 2. Bobcats take a chance on riding Ilyasova to playoffs as they have more difficulty attracting FA.

You forgot step 1 - giving the Bucks GM a lobotomy