Official Draft Thread 2015-16

[Homerclease]

I know everyone is high on Simmons and Ingram but I can't help but feel like this draft is like the 2010 draft. One of those two (probably Ingram) will be a bust and then you might have a couple gems scattered around later in the lottery.

I'm a Duke homer and usually over value their players but I just don't see it with Ingram. If Okafor shakes loose I'd jump all over that. I still think he has a better career than KAT and I think the skies the limit when it comes to Towns.

I don't think this years draft is as good as last years but I think it's far superior to 2014. Celtics are going to walk away with a VERY good player in the top 5. 2017 is going to be amazing though

[Duke4life831]

Also Dunn and Smart should not be a back court combo. You need some type of spacing out of your guards. You guys are in desperate need of a game changing 3 or 4. You guys don't need another guard that can't shoot

Passing on talent for positional need is how you wind up with JR Giddens over Deandre Jordan. If the celtics feel Dunn is the BPA when they pick then take him and don't think twice about it

I agree you don't pass up better talent for positional need. The point in making is there really isn't that much of a talent gap between Dunn and the other guys between 3-6. So when you have 3 or 4 guys on the same level take the guy that fits your scheme better. Plus I think Bender has much higher potential.

Also taking best player avaliable isn't always the best way either, look at the 6ers and their last 3 top picks that won't ever be able to play with each other

[Homerclease]

Also Dunn and Smart should not be a back court combo. You need some type of spacing out of your guards. You guys are in desperate need of a game changing 3 or 4. You guys don't need another guard that can't shoot

Passing on talent for positional need is how you wind up with JR Giddens over Deandre Jordan. If the celtics feel Dunn is the BPA when they pick then take him and don't think twice about it

I agree you don't pass up better talent for positional need. The point in making is there really isn't that much of a talent gap between Dunn and the other guys between 3-6. So when you have 3 offer 4 guys on the same level take the guy that fits your scheme better. Plus I think Bender has much higher potential.

Also taking best player avaliable isn't always the best way either, look at the 6ers and their last 3 top picks that won't ever be able to play with each other

Ever is a long time for a rookie, a sophomore and a guy who's yet to lace up a pair of sneakers on an NBA court. You draft the best guy and make a trade after the fact. If Dunn is awesome then you move him as an Al Jefferson type centerpiece for a ready made star or move someone else to make room for him.

[Celtsfan1980]

Does hack-a-Ingram become a problem?

[Gomes3PC]

He's a 68% FT shooter. You don't hack a guy like that, especially one who shoots 40% from deep, suggesting his FT% is artificially low.

[Murta]

He's a 68% FT shooter. You don't hack a guy like that, especially one who shoots 40% from deep, suggesting his FT% is artificially low.

Or that his 3PT% is artificially high. But hacking isn't even an option

[Gomes3PC]

He's a 68% FT shooter. You don't hack a guy like that, especially one who shoots 40% from deep, suggesting his FT% is artificially low.

Or that his 3PT% is artificially high. But hacking isn't even an option

Highly unlikely - maybe he's a "true" shooter of 35% or so but even that suggests he'd be a totally respectable FT shooter. He's averaging over 5 triples a game. 130+ threes is plenty enough sample size, plus combine that with the fact that he has good form (though his footwork does need cleaning up). This isn't like Justise Winslow, who had an awkward shot and only took 110 triples over the course of 39 games, most of them of the corner-3 variety. Ingram has taken most of his north of the extended foul line, the toughest spots to hit 3s.

[Banks2Pierce]

Also Dunn and Smart should not be a back court combo.

Think Smart's shooting is sort of misunderstood. He can shoot off ball and tanks his %s with shots off the dribble.

[Duke4life831]

He's a 68% FT shooter. You don't hack a guy like that, especially one who shoots 40% from deep, suggesting his FT% is artificially low.

Or that his 3PT% is artificially high. But hacking isn't even an option

Highly unlikely - maybe he's a "true" shooter of 35% or so but even that suggests he'd be a totally respectable FT shooter. He's averaging over 5 triples a game. 130+ threes is plenty enough sample size, plus combine that with the fact that he has good form (though his footwork does need cleaning up). This isn't like Justise Winslow, who had an awkward shot and only took 110 triples over the course of 39 games, most of them of the corner-3 variety. Ingram has taken most of his north of the extended foul line, the toughest spots to hit 3s.

Another thing to add. Ingram did shoot 80% from the line as a senior in high school and is shooting 74% from the line in conference play. To start the season his entire shot was completely off. He found his 3 pointer first and it looks like he has begun to find his FT shot as well

[BfB]

Ingrim's stud - best prospect in the draft

[Gomes3PC]

Ingrim's stud - best prospect in the draft

I am beginning to get that sense, a la Durant vs. Oden.

[lon3lytoaster]

I like Kris Dunn probably a good amount more than the average poster here and I'm still trying to warm up to the idea of drafting him 3rd or 4th. Don't really want anything to do with Brown or Bender.

There really isn't anyone I like outside of Ingram or Simmons (in that order.) without one of those two as an option for us, I'd just try and punt this draft.

Maybe we can move up to #2 if we get 3 or 4.

[Writebloc]

Trade deadline over, time to get ridiculously overly attached to players we will likely never get!!!

What have I missed?

I know Simmons is a basketball savant who is a cross between Magic Johnson and Dante Exum on steroids. Team isn't great, Simmons' shot is broken, will go number 1.

Ingram, nasty, skinny, baller, number 2, 1a? Will need time to develop in any system, worth it.

Then, uggggghhhhhh, am I excited about anything?

Jaylen Brown? Outside shot? He does attack the floor downhill.

Dragen Bender? (I'd take him for his name alone.)

Buddy Hield?

Kris Dunn?

Who is the best shooter - any Devin Bookers out there?

Is there a rim protecting big more intriguing than Jordan Mickey?

Depending on where we pick will best available talent win out over positional need?

Sorry for jumping in raw in the discussion, curious to hear posters' thoughts?

[No-Man]

This Cornelie kid is going to be good, he is a 7'1 stretch C, really skilled, he lacks some strength and needs to be coached defensively, but he could be a really nice role player, a longer Lauvergne.

[Gomes3PC]

Hield is just as good a shooter as Booker, just lower ceiling given he's a senior and Booker was a young freshman.

Not much in the way of rim protectors this year. AJ Hammons would be interesting later on, as would Chinanu Onuaku, but both have plenty of warts.

[Murta]

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Simmons visiting #BoogieIsland

[jmr07019]

Trade deadline over, time to get ridiculously overly attached to players we will likely never get!!!

What have I missed?

I know Simmons is a basketball savant who is a cross between Magic Johnson and Dante Exum on steroids. Team isn't great, Simmons' shot is broken, will go number 1.

Ingram, nasty, skinny, baller, number 2, 1a? Will need time to develop in any system, worth it.

Then, uggggghhhhhh, am I excited about anything?

Jaylen Brown? Outside shot? He does attack the floor downhill.

Dragen Bender? (I'd take him for his name alone.)

Buddy Hield?

Kris Dunn?

Who is the best shooter - any Devin Bookers out there?

Is there a rim protecting big more intriguing than Jordan Mickey?

Depending on where we pick will best available talent win out over positional need?

Sorry for jumping in raw in the discussion, curious to hear posters' thoughts?

I am excited about Brown. He's has a 7' wingspan, 8'9'' standing reach which are well above average for a sf. Great run jump athlete. He can contribute on defense day 1 and would add to the defensive identity established by Smart, Bradley and Crowder. His shot needs work but he's still putting up 16 ppg. on good efficiency. He'd need a few years to develop and wouldn't be a substantial upgrade to Turner year 1 but he'd be a great pick. He's a little under rated imo

[Gomes3PC]

I'd only take Brown if I were convinced he'd put the work in to develop his game, as right now he has zero vision and a broken jumper. Not trying to dismiss him - he attacks the rim and plays SF, two things we need.

[rickrolled]

I hope we get Ingram.

[lon3lytoaster]

They ran an interesting fact during LSU's game. Three players have been drafted #1 overall with no NCAA tournament experience, including the mythical LaRue Martin. That's at least somewhat sobering.

I'm taking Ingram. Danny has been all about Duke of late (Winslow, Okafor) and I suspect that's where he's thinking with the top pick.