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Post#1501 » by 2Mas » Thu Nov 1, 2018 4:29 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:
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jmr07019 wrote:6ers got wrecked by the Raps last night. Simmons is gonna have nightmares about Kawhi. I don't think 6ers stand a chance against Raps. Kawhi is the Simmons' kryptonite.

It’s not just kawhi, simmons is the problem. He just can’t shoot even to save his life. Guys like that are the easiest to guard. If he attacks, they just send him to the line. What’s worse for simmons is he needs the ball to succeed. Can’t play off the ball either. Until he develops a jumper, he would continue to put up similar stats. 10-15pts, 10reb, 10assist. and a total liability in the closing minutes.

couple that with the fact he shares the floor with Fultz....another flawed non-shooter...and their future is BIG trouble

This Fultz starting to up his confidence is so dumb & wrong.

Let him beat up on backups first.

2- my issue is that they need to move Saric. Simmons needs to be their 4 man. They need a pg who can be a 2ndary creator, hit 3's & play smart d. Any mediocre guy would work. George Hill? (Just an example) Like anyone like that. Hill Redick Covington as shooters, run the offense through ben & joel. Let Fultz get his 20-24mpg against back ups & have the ball in his hands more.

Their just too crowded. Saric can shoot but not a shooter. Fultz over Redick just makes 0 sense. 3 shooters, Ben & Joel.
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Post#1502 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Thu Nov 1, 2018 4:31 pm

i agree with most of your take but there is room for a player like Saric on any roster. he doesn't need to be traded....just maybe moved to a bench unit.

the way their starting 5 is constructed, it's a mess. simply switching out fultz for reddick would open up the floor so much more.
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Post#1503 » by 3D Chess » Thu Nov 1, 2018 4:39 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:i agree with most of your take but there is room for a player like Saric on any roster. he doesn't need to be traded....just maybe moved to a bench unit.

the way their starting 5 is constructed, it's a mess. simply switching out fultz for reddick would open up the floor so much more.

I think the Sixers are probably well aware of this, but at the moment they are willing to sacrifice some results in order to see just how it might work with Fultz as a starter, since the clock is ticking on a few of their dudes that are going to be due big money soon, and on the flip side Redick isn't going to be around forever (at least at his current level of play). It's not ideal for them, but I can see why they are doing it.
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Post#1504 » by djFan71 » Thu Nov 1, 2018 5:42 pm

truth18 wrote:I don't give a **** about Derrick Rose. Soft, candy eating POS.

Word. Between all the off-court allegations, not knowing what consent is, and just leaving teams/not showing up, I don't have any sympathy for him.
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Post#1505 » by Valid » Thu Nov 1, 2018 6:13 pm

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Valid wrote:Lol. Imagine going into work and "informing" your boss that you will not be coming back until they transfer you to a new department. The entitlement of NBA players today is truly disgusting.

It's just economics at work. These guys aren't you or me. They're the best of the best of the best and in very high demand. They get to call the shots, because in the NBA the players are more powerful than the corporations they work for.

Doesn't change the fact that it's disgusting. I also disagree that guys like Jimmy Butler are more powerful than the corporation they work for. If Butler never played another NBA game again, the league wouldn't bat an eye.
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Post#1506 » by Roddy » Thu Nov 1, 2018 7:17 pm

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Post#1507 » by 3D Chess » Thu Nov 1, 2018 7:22 pm

Did Jimmy Butler get fined?
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Post#1508 » by 3D Chess » Thu Nov 1, 2018 8:19 pm

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Post#1509 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Nov 1, 2018 8:52 pm



Was at the Nets-Pistons game last night and Dinwiddie hit a game-winner for the Nets in OT. Here's the video I took of the crowd reacting to it from my seats.
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Post#1510 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Nov 1, 2018 10:45 pm

I don’t have a ton of crow to eat because I didn’t talk him down much, but I didn’t talk him up, either - Luka Doncic is pretty much fulfilling all the hype - possible superstar - 19 - and plays with the poise of a 35 year old vet. Hope when Thibodeau decides to take the L on Butler, it’s for Wes Matthews and a 1st - Butler likes guys who compete? Put him on a Rick Carlisle team with Doncic, DSJ, and Powell and he’ll be in basketball heaven. But Dallas may be planning something else with their offseason money..
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Post#1511 » by MapleRed » Fri Nov 2, 2018 2:14 am

How did the Kings score 146 points?
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Post#1512 » by Ed Pinkney » Fri Nov 2, 2018 2:18 am

MapleRed wrote:How did the Kings score 146 points?



The Hawks are poo.

De'Aaron Fox is not.
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Post#1513 » by MapleRed » Fri Nov 2, 2018 2:24 am

Ed Pinkney wrote:
MapleRed wrote:How did the Kings score 146 points?



The Hawks are poo.

De'Aaron Fox is not.


True on the Hawks. But maybe need to reset my expectations on that pick.
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Post#1514 » by sully00 » Fri Nov 2, 2018 3:32 am

Valid wrote:
AlCelticFan wrote:
Valid wrote:Lol. Imagine going into work and "informing" your boss that you will not be coming back until they transfer you to a new department. The entitlement of NBA players today is truly disgusting.

It's just economics at work. These guys aren't you or me. They're the best of the best of the best and in very high demand. They get to call the shots, because in the NBA the players are more powerful than the corporations they work for.

Doesn't change the fact that it's disgusting. I also disagree that guys like Jimmy Butler are more powerful than the corporation they work for. If Butler never played another NBA game again, the league wouldn't bat an eye.


I am sorry this all BS. You can walk into your job and quit and go work somewhere else whenever you want, your boss can't trade you to Toledo, he or she actually can't fire you unless they want to pay you for a couple of months. It is great to be an American.

The NBA is the NBA and guys make a ton of money but very few of us have a job that says by the way Jim your going to Minneapolis for the next couple of years have a good time. Then when you go to your new boss and say Boss you know this isn't working out for me, the guys I am working with and me don't get along and as soon as I can I am heading to LA or Miami. The response is good to know we will send you their sooner if it works for us but until then we are going to be make you look like an ****.
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Post#1515 » by mbsnmisc » Fri Nov 2, 2018 1:49 pm

sully00 wrote:
Valid wrote:
AlCelticFan wrote:It's just economics at work. These guys aren't you or me. They're the best of the best of the best and in very high demand. They get to call the shots, because in the NBA the players are more powerful than the corporations they work for.

Doesn't change the fact that it's disgusting. I also disagree that guys like Jimmy Butler are more powerful than the corporation they work for. If Butler never played another NBA game again, the league wouldn't bat an eye.


I am sorry this all BS. You can walk into your job and quit and go work somewhere else whenever you want, your boss can't trade you to Toledo, he or she actually can't fire you unless they want to pay you for a couple of months. It is great to be an American.

The NBA is the NBA and guys make a ton of money but very few of us have a job that says by the way Jim your going to Minneapolis for the next couple of years have a good time. Then when you go to your new boss and say Boss you know this isn't working out for me, the guys I am working with and me don't get along and as soon as I can I am heading to LA or Miami. The response is good to know we will send you their sooner if it works for us but until then we are going to be make you look like an ****.

Not entirely true. He has a contract with the T'Wolves. Like a lot of professionals, the last contract I signed contained a non-compete clause. If I left my employer I could not work in any related industry for 3 years. He cannot just refuse to play without risking consequence.
Do I think Minnesota should trade his contract? Yes. Do they have the right to trade his contract for what they deem equal compensation? Yes.
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Post#1516 » by Valid » Fri Nov 2, 2018 2:45 pm

sully00 wrote:
Valid wrote:
AlCelticFan wrote:It's just economics at work. These guys aren't you or me. They're the best of the best of the best and in very high demand. They get to call the shots, because in the NBA the players are more powerful than the corporations they work for.

Doesn't change the fact that it's disgusting. I also disagree that guys like Jimmy Butler are more powerful than the corporation they work for. If Butler never played another NBA game again, the league wouldn't bat an eye.


I am sorry this all BS. You can walk into your job and quit and go work somewhere else whenever you want, your boss can't trade you to Toledo, he or she actually can't fire you unless they want to pay you for a couple of months. It is great to be an American.

The NBA is the NBA and guys make a ton of money but very few of us have a job that says by the way Jim your going to Minneapolis for the next couple of years have a good time. Then when you go to your new boss and say Boss you know this isn't working out for me, the guys I am working with and me don't get along and as soon as I can I am heading to LA or Miami. The response is good to know we will send you their sooner if it works for us but until then we are going to be make you look like an ****.

Lmfao. This is not at all what I said, but nice try. There is a difference between quitting and walking into your job and telling your boss to transfer you to another department or you won't be coming to work and STILL expecting your company to pay you while you sit your ass at home.

Seriously; what do you think I'm an idiot? I know that you can quit your job. I mean, duh. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. If you want to go that route, then actually use what I said in your example. So, it would be quitting your job and then expecting your job to pay you until you find another job. THAT'S what I said.

Maybe you should have actually read what I said before you tried sounding all high and mighty, but I understand that jumping to conclusions and trying to sound smart is typical of you, Mr. Mod.
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Post#1517 » by sam_I_am » Fri Nov 2, 2018 4:34 pm

Sixers should trade Fultz for Kyle Korver and best pick possible.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#1518 » by 3D Chess » Fri Nov 2, 2018 6:38 pm

Super off topic and started reading this article almost by accident, but apparently it's ok to fire guys via voicemail these days;

In the lawsuit Boylan, 63, provides a transcript of a voicemail left by former head coach Tyronn Lue from last June informing him the team was moving in a different direction. According to the transcription, Cavs general manager Koby Altman informed Lue that "they're not gonna pay that kind of money for three assistants on the bench. He wants to go younger in that position and, you know, find somebody who's a grinder and younger in that position."


Savage.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25157021/former-cleveland-cavaliers-assistant-coach-jim-boylan-files-age-discrimination-suit-team
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Post#1519 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Nov 2, 2018 6:44 pm

With Luke Walton's job apparently on the line, here's my prediction:

The Lakers fire him, and hire Ty Lue.
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Post#1520 » by sully00 » Fri Nov 2, 2018 6:46 pm

Valid wrote:
sully00 wrote:
Valid wrote:Doesn't change the fact that it's disgusting. I also disagree that guys like Jimmy Butler are more powerful than the corporation they work for. If Butler never played another NBA game again, the league wouldn't bat an eye.


I am sorry this all BS. You can walk into your job and quit and go work somewhere else whenever you want, your boss can't trade you to Toledo, he or she actually can't fire you unless they want to pay you for a couple of months. It is great to be an American.

The NBA is the NBA and guys make a ton of money but very few of us have a job that says by the way Jim your going to Minneapolis for the next couple of years have a good time. Then when you go to your new boss and say Boss you know this isn't working out for me, the guys I am working with and me don't get along and as soon as I can I am heading to LA or Miami. The response is good to know we will send you their sooner if it works for us but until then we are going to be make you look like an ****.

Lmfao. This is not at all what I said, but nice try. There is a difference between quitting and walking into your job and telling your boss to transfer you to another department or you won't be coming to work and STILL expecting your company to pay you while you sit your ass at home.

Seriously; what do you think I'm an idiot? I know that you can quit your job. I mean, duh. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. If you want to go that route, then actually use what I said in your example. So, it would be quitting your job and then expecting your job to pay you until you find another job. THAT'S what I said.
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Maybe you should have actually read what I said before you tried sounding all high and mighty, but I understand that jumping to conclusions and trying to sound smart is typical of you, Mr. Mod.


I don't throw around that I am a moderator in any conversation that i have so don't throw it back in my face it is weak.

I know exactly what you said that it was "disgusting" for a guy to attempt to determine where he is going to work and that he is more powerful than the corporation he works for. Obviously that is not true because if it was his ass would not be in MINN anymore.

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