2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[b3n]

My best guesses:

We trade 14 + 26 for 10 to take Okoro. Use 30 to punt Kanter+Poirier+Edwards.

We take Poku at 14 and trade 26+30 for 22 and pick Desmond Bane. Stash Poku for 1 year.

Would love this

[Celts17Pride]

My best guesses:

We trade 14 + 26 for 10 to take Okoro. Use 30 to punt Kanter+Poirier+Edwards.

We take Poku at 14 and trade 26+30 for 22 and pick Desmond Bane. Stash Poku for 1 year.

Definitely expecting some kind of scenario like that. If the Celtics can't move up then it would be,

14 - draft
26 - Punt Kanter, Poirier, Edwards
30 - Stash

In my opinion

[BostonCouchGM]

always funny seeing Mocks with Stanley in the middle of the 2nd round. For a supposed weak draft there sure is a lot of talent to be had deep into the 2nd! He's so similar to Jaylen. He doesn't have as much length but he's a better athlete. He's a better shooter than Jaylen was in college both from three and the FT line. Same height. Same on ball defender. Jaylen was bigger and longer but that is mitigated somewhat by Stanley being quicker and a better leaper. I don't get how Jaylen could go #3 in a "better" draft but Stanley is a mid second rounder.

Cue pearl clutchers triggered by me comparing a 6'6" elite athlete Stanley who shot 36% from three to their Lord and savior Jaylen Brown

[Gomes3PC]

We all have our binkies. I've already said my piece on Isaiah Stewart but I would have no issue with Saddiq Bey at #14. He's a guy who could help immediately because he knows how to play (as does Stewart).

I do not want a guard before pick #30, although I seriously doubt that Ainge will use all four picks. He'll roll a few of them over if he has to.

If Stewart is there at 26 I'd love him, just like Timelord in that range a few years ago. Late 1st IMO is a great spot to nab rotation bigs. You don't have to rely on them becoming immediate contributors, but if in 18-24 months Stewart has built up his jumper, he could turn into a huge asset as a 15-20 MPG energy guy to pair with Williams.

[Curmudgeon]

Stewart already has a jumper. I posted film earlier. The knock on him is that he doesn't jump as high as some of the other guys, even though he blocks twice as many shots as they do.

I want to resign Wanamaker. I don't see any guard in the draft who will be better than Wanamaker over the next few years. Wanamaker is a grown man who knows how to play and is the NBA's best free throw shooter. I'm, not interested in projects on a team that already has Walker, Smart, Wanamaker and Waters, not to mention Langford and Javonte Green. Maybe Edwards or Ball will become stars down the road, but they will be gone long before the Celtics pick.

[captain green]

14 Gene guarilia
26 Tobi Kimball
30 jeff judkins
47 Ronnie Williams
It's a lock guaranteed we picked em.

[themoneyteam2]

always funny seeing Mocks with Stanley in the middle of the 2nd round. For a supposed weak draft there sure is a lot of talent to be had deep into the 2nd! He's so similar to Jaylen. He doesn't have as much length but he's a better athlete. He's a better shooter than Jaylen was in college both from three and the FT line. Same height. Same on ball defender. Jaylen was bigger and longer but that is mitigated somewhat by Stanley being quicker and a better leaper. I don't get how Jaylen could go #3 in a "better" draft but Stanley is a mid second rounder.

Cue pearl clutchers triggered by me comparing a 6'6" elite athlete Stanley who shot 36% from three to their Lord and savior Jaylen Brown

Well no it's the fact that you say Lonzo, Bridges, Jonathan Isaac, and RJ freaking Barrett are all better than Jaylen Brown. And yes that was a real take by you.

That's why people get "triggered".

[SmartWentCrazy]

Yah Okoro feels like our guy, IMO. Switchable wing with a ton of strength and fight in him, we love picking guys in that mold.

[big-shot-ROB]

Rj Hampton feels like Dante Exum 2.0

Based on skin color and buzzed cut hair? Because that where all similarities end lol.

[Floody100]

Rj Hampton feels like Dante Exum 2.0

Based on skin color and buzzed cut hair? Because that where all similarities end lol.

No in terms of underachieving.

[Floody100]

always funny seeing Mocks with Stanley in the middle of the 2nd round. For a supposed weak draft there sure is a lot of talent to be had deep into the 2nd! He's so similar to Jaylen. He doesn't have as much length but he's a better athlete. He's a better shooter than Jaylen was in college both from three and the FT line. Same height. Same on ball defender. Jaylen was bigger and longer but that is mitigated somewhat by Stanley being quicker and a better leaper. I don't get how Jaylen could go #3 in a "better" draft but Stanley is a mid second rounder.

Cue pearl clutchers triggered by me comparing a 6'6" elite athlete Stanley who shot 36% from three to their Lord and savior Jaylen Brown

Jaylen lives rent free in your head mate, it’s quite embarrassing at this point.

[BostonCouchGM]

always funny seeing Mocks with Stanley in the middle of the 2nd round. For a supposed weak draft there sure is a lot of talent to be had deep into the 2nd! He's so similar to Jaylen. He doesn't have as much length but he's a better athlete. He's a better shooter than Jaylen was in college both from three and the FT line. Same height. Same on ball defender. Jaylen was bigger and longer but that is mitigated somewhat by Stanley being quicker and a better leaper. I don't get how Jaylen could go #3 in a "better" draft but Stanley is a mid second rounder.

Cue pearl clutchers triggered by me comparing a 6'6" elite athlete Stanley who shot 36% from three to their Lord and savior Jaylen Brown

Jaylen lives rent free in your head mate, it’s quite embarrassing at this point.

lmao told you they'd be triggered. talk about embarrassing

[Bleeding Green]

Rj Hampton feels like Dante Exum 2.0

Based on skin color and buzzed cut hair? Because that where all similarities end lol.

No in terms of underachieving.

Are you projecting Hampton to be injured for the entirety of his NBA career?

[giambijuice]

Of the many Mocks, this one seems updated on rumors etc.. Like the picks for Boston, but Love the players that are actually available at our spots..

for me sub Bane in for Tillman, and Boston gets 2 real good wing prospects/shooters and a damn good switchable Big talent.. plus switch G Riller at 47 and I get a wet dream!!

https://tradenba.com/mock-drafts/epCLD7hYR

1. Minnesota - LaMelo Ball | PG | Illawarra
2. Golden State - James Wiseman | C | Memphis
3. Charlotte - Anthony Edwards | GF | Georgia
4. Chicago - Killian Hayes | PG | Ulm
5. Cleveland - Obi Toppin | PF | Dayton
6. Atlanta - Tyrese Haliburton | PG | Iowa State
7. Detroit - Patrick Williams | F | Florida State
8. NY Knicks - Deni Avdija | F | Maccabi Tel Aviv
9. Washington - Onyeka Okongwu | C | USC
10. Phoenix - Kira Lewis Jr | PG | Alabama
11. San Antonio - Devin Vassell | SG | Florida State
12. Sacramento - Aaron Nesmith | GF | Vanderbilt
13. New Orleans - Jalen Smith | FC | Maryland
14. Boston (via MEM) - Precious Achiuwa | FC | Memphis
15. Orlando - Tyrell Terry | PG | Stanford
16. Portland - Isaac Okoro | SF | Auburn
17. Minnesota (via BKN) - Saddiq Bey | F | Villanova
18. Dallas - Josh Green | SG | Arizona
19. Brooklyn (via PHI) - Jaden McDaniels | F | Washington
20. Miami - Tyrese Maxey | SG | Kentucky
21. Philadelphia (via OKC) - RJ Hampton | PG | NZ Breakers
22. Denver (via HOU) - Aleksej Pokusevski | FC | Olympiacos
23. Utah - Tyler Bey | F | Colorado
24. Milwaukee (via IND) - Cole Anthony | PG | UNC
25. OKC (via DEN) - Udoka Azubuike | C | Kansas
26. Boston - Xavier Tillman | C | Michigan State
27. NY Knicks (via LAC) - Desmond Bane | SG | TCU
28. LA Lakers - Isaiah Stewart | C | Washington
29. Toronto - Payton Pritchard | PG | Oregon
30. Boston (via MIL) - Robert Woodard II | SF | Mississippi State

Second Round
31. Dallas (via GSW) - Daniel Oturu | C | Minnesota
32. Charlotte (via CLE) - Cassius Winston | PG | Michigan State
33. Minnesota - Jahmi'us Ramsey | SG | Texas Tech
34. Philadelphia (via ATL) - Leandro Bolmaro | SG | Barcelona
35. Sacramento (via DET) - Zeke Nnaji | C | Arizona
36. Philadelphia (via NYK) - Paul Reed | PF | DePaul
37. Washington (via CHI) - Ty-Shon Alexander | PG | Creighton
38. NY Knicks (via CHA) - Nico Mannion | PG | Arizona
39. New Orleans (via WAS) - Caleb Wesson | C | Ohio State
40. Memphis (via PHX) - Theo Maledon | PG | ASVEL
41. San Antonio - Malachi Flynn | PG | San Diego State
42. New Orleans - Tre Jones | PG | Duke
43. Sacramento - Devon Dotson | PG | Kansas
44. Chicago (via MEM) - Killian Tillie | FC | Gonzaga
45. Orlando - Cassius Stanley | SG | Duke
46. Portland - Mamadi Diakite | PF | Virginia
47. Boston (via BKN) - Yam Madar | PG | Hapoel Tel Aviv
48. Golden State (via DAL) - Isaiah Joe | SG | Arkansas
49. Philadelphia - Rokas Jokubaitis | PG | Zalgiris
50. Atlanta (via MIA) - Jordan Nwora | PF | Louisville
51. Golden State (via UTA) - Grant Riller | G | Charleston
52. Sacramento (via HOU) - Vernon Carey Jr | FC | Duke
53. Oklahoma City - Immanuel Quickley | PG | Kentucky
54. Indiana - Reggie Perry | FC | Mississippi State
55. Brooklyn (via DEN) - Nate Darling | SG | Delaware
56. Charlotte (via BOS) - Elijah Hughes | SG | Syracuse
57. LA Clippers - Ashton Hagans | PG | Kentucky
58. Philadelphia (via LAL) - Paul Eboua | PF | Victoria Libertas Pesaro
59. Toronto - Jay Scrubb | SG | John A Logan College
60. New Orleans (via MIL) - Abdoulaye N'doye | PG | AS Monaco

if the draft did fall like that i would be bummed about azubuike and i would switch precious for okoro, tillman for bane and woodard for oturu. we need shooters.

[Bleeding Green]

always funny seeing Mocks with Stanley in the middle of the 2nd round. For a supposed weak draft there sure is a lot of talent to be had deep into the 2nd! He's so similar to Jaylen. He doesn't have as much length but he's a better athlete. He's a better shooter than Jaylen was in college both from three and the FT line. Same height. Same on ball defender. Jaylen was bigger and longer but that is mitigated somewhat by Stanley being quicker and a better leaper. I don't get how Jaylen could go #3 in a "better" draft but Stanley is a mid second rounder.

Cue pearl clutchers triggered by me comparing a 6'6" elite athlete Stanley who shot 36% from three to their Lord and savior Jaylen Brown

He probably went earlier due to five inches of wingspan, being a full year younger, showing ability to get to the rim, to the free throw line. Jaylen Brown was an elite freshman guard at getting to the rim and had a significantly higher usage rate than Cassius Stanley. And that ability to get to the rim and draw contact is Brown's best offensive attribute, though he has obviously shown great leaps in his shooting ability too, and really he's improved a **** ton every season across the board. I'm no scout, but it's hard to project a freshman guard with a 21 usg rate as being equivalent to Jaylen Brown without massive leaps in handle, strength, first step, finishing ability, etc. If Jaylen Brown had a poor work ethic he'd just be a JAG, but he's improved in all areas of his game since he was drafted so comparing freshman Brown to freshman Stanley I don't really get unless Stanely has the same work ethic that Brown appears to have (and maybe he does).

Stanley looks good, though, I wouldn't be upset at taking him at 30 if Bey, Tillman and Maledon are all gone by then. And at 47 he's an easy draft. I'd rather end up with Stanley than someone like Desmond Bane, Malachi Flynn or Tre Jones for sure.

[Kalela]

Stanley reminds me a little of Gerald Green. Without the above average wingspan of course.

[themoneyteam2]

always funny seeing Mocks with Stanley in the middle of the 2nd round. For a supposed weak draft there sure is a lot of talent to be had deep into the 2nd! He's so similar to Jaylen. He doesn't have as much length but he's a better athlete. He's a better shooter than Jaylen was in college both from three and the FT line. Same height. Same on ball defender. Jaylen was bigger and longer but that is mitigated somewhat by Stanley being quicker and a better leaper. I don't get how Jaylen could go #3 in a "better" draft but Stanley is a mid second rounder.

Cue pearl clutchers triggered by me comparing a 6'6" elite athlete Stanley who shot 36% from three to their Lord and savior Jaylen Brown

Jaylen lives rent free in your head mate, it’s quite embarrassing at this point.

lmao told you they'd be triggered. talk about embarrassing

Or people just call you out for your laughable takes on him, such as saying Lonzo, Bridges, and RJ Barrett are all better...

Show me on the doll where he hurt you.

[Floody100]

always funny seeing Mocks with Stanley in the middle of the 2nd round. For a supposed weak draft there sure is a lot of talent to be had deep into the 2nd! He's so similar to Jaylen. He doesn't have as much length but he's a better athlete. He's a better shooter than Jaylen was in college both from three and the FT line. Same height. Same on ball defender. Jaylen was bigger and longer but that is mitigated somewhat by Stanley being quicker and a better leaper. I don't get how Jaylen could go #3 in a "better" draft but Stanley is a mid second rounder.

Cue pearl clutchers triggered by me comparing a 6'6" elite athlete Stanley who shot 36% from three to their Lord and savior Jaylen Brown

Jaylen lives rent free in your head mate, it’s quite embarrassing at this point.

lmao told you they'd be triggered. talk about embarrassing

That hole of yours keeps getting deeper & deeper doesn’t it.

[BostonCouchGM]

always funny seeing Mocks with Stanley in the middle of the 2nd round. For a supposed weak draft there sure is a lot of talent to be had deep into the 2nd! He's so similar to Jaylen. He doesn't have as much length but he's a better athlete. He's a better shooter than Jaylen was in college both from three and the FT line. Same height. Same on ball defender. Jaylen was bigger and longer but that is mitigated somewhat by Stanley being quicker and a better leaper. I don't get how Jaylen could go #3 in a "better" draft but Stanley is a mid second rounder.

Cue pearl clutchers triggered by me comparing a 6'6" elite athlete Stanley who shot 36% from three to their Lord and savior Jaylen Brown

He probably went earlier due to five inches of wingspan, being a full year younger, showing ability to get to the rim, to the free throw line. Jaylen Brown was an elite freshman guard at getting to the rim and had a significantly higher usage rate than Cassius Stanley. And that ability to get to the rim and draw contact is Brown's best offensive attribute, though he has obviously shown great leaps in his shooting ability too, and really he's improved a **** ton every season across the board. I'm no scout, but it's hard to project a freshman guard with a 21 usg rate as being equivalent to Jaylen Brown without massive leaps in handle, strength, first step, finishing ability, etc. If Jaylen Brown had a poor work ethic he'd just be a JAG, but he's improved in all areas of his game since he was drafted so comparing freshman Brown to freshman Stanley I don't really get unless Stanely has the same work ethic that Brown appears to have (and maybe he does).

Stanley looks good, though, I wouldn't be upset at taking him at 30 if Bey, Tillman and Maledon are all gone by then. And at 47 he's an easy draft. I'd rather end up with Stanley than someone like Desmond Bane, Malachi Flynn or Tre Jones for sure.

Thanks for the measured response.

Jaylen Brown

14-5-2 with three turnovers a game because his handle, like now, was abysmal. He shot 29% from three on three attempts and 65% FT on six attempts. He had just .8 steals a game and .6 blocks per game and 3 fouls per. The reason he was high usage and got to the rim so much more is because he was a chucker on a terrible team playing for a terrible coach and head and shoulders more talented than the scrubs he played with. They essentially let him do whatever he wanted and he certainly did.

Cassius Stanley

13-5-1 with two turnovers a game. He shot 36% from three on 3 attempts and 73% FT on less than 4 attempts. He had .7 steals a game and a .7 blocks per game with 2 fouls per. So apparently those 4.5 less inches didn't hurt him much on the defensive end. I''m sure if he played for a bad program and coach he could have had a much higher usage rate and gotten to the line a couple more times per game but there were other mouths to feed at Duke.

Watching them both play in college, they're both exciting athletes who can play above the rim, have great on ball defense, and were elite in transition. I found Jaylen to be the typical low BBIQ athlete with tantalizing measurables with high upside and high floor. He was a smart pick although I wanted Jamal Murray who is clearly better. Jaylen has developed into a 3 and D and that's okay. I know people on here especially think he's so much more but they are objectively wrong. His handle is suspect and he'll never be the initiator on offense nor great shooting off the dribble with volume. It's just not who he is. And that's okay because Danny prudently didn't overpay for him. Stanley always struck me as being capable of more and held back by the aging and ever increasingly overrated Coach K. He always leaped off the screen due to his athleticism and I was always surprised, like I was with Tatum, that Coach K didn't showcase him more and let him go off. Like with Jaylen, I don't envision Stanley ever leading an offense but he's clearly going to be a good 3 and D.

So again, besides some size and length, we're looking at close to the same level of prospect except one went #3 overall and was mocked in the top 10 by all the "experts" despite his flaws on the court and one is projected in the middle of the second round seemingly because he lacks elite wingspan and wasn't allowed to be a chucker at Duke. I don't get it.

This is just more proof to me that this is an underrated draft if Stanley is considered a mid-second rounder. Danny has interviewed him though I can't see how he'd fit in with us since Jaylen is locked up for years and he just drafted Langford. But maybe there's a trade involving Langford so Stanley is someone they're thinking of should that happen. It's also more proof that these people making a living off of draft prognostication are hacks.

[themoneyteam2]

If only you could make a living off your great draft analysis instead of all those hacks!

Remember when you said a month ago that the Celtics would have made the Finals if they picked Bol Bol, Naz Reid, or Isiah Roby?

The same Bol Bol who only appeared in 4 playoff games, all of which were in garbage time of blowouts lol.