Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8

[Jaqua92]

It paid off for them because the Kawhi trade was cheap. They lost nothing. Really, getting out from under the DDR contract is a win in itself. Yes AD is worth trading for, but not overpaying for. If we trade away nearly everything of quality, what do we use to build around AD on the fly over the course of 1 season, without burying our future?

Our future is burried if we don't trade for him! Why does no one acknowledge this? We aren't winning anything with Tatum as the guy. And we aren't attracting anyone

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Give us your trade package for Durant (edits Davis*****) and then our replacement for Irving

Then compare that to this years raps team and tell us if its gonna win.

Package for AD is Tatum, Smart and Memphis. Tatum/Memphis if possible.

Whether you keep Brown, what you do with Al, etc is beyond me (which I know supports what you are trying to say). But again, it doesn't matter..because we have AD, Horford, Brown and a healthier Hayward. It's up to Danny to build a team/convince him to stay. Not me. I'm just supporting the risk. Not saying there isn't a risk. But I'd rather try and fail than to never try at all. Maybe I just don't care enough about the Celtics that losing Tatum and AD isn't that big a deal. But the risk is worth it. And it always will be to me.

Raptors next year are a different team. The league is different. That logic doesn't work.

On the contrary, tell me how you build a title team around Tatum, Brown, Smart? What do you do?

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[The Corey's]

Our future is burried if we don't trade for him! Why does no one acknowledge this? We aren't winning anything with Tatum as the guy. And we aren't attracting anyone

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Give us your trade package for Durant (edits Davis*****) and then our replacement for Irving

Then compare that to this years raps team and tell us if its gonna win.

Package for AD is Tatum, Smart and Memphis. Tatum/Memphis if possible.

Whether you keep Brown, what you do with Al, etc is beyond me (which I know supports what you are trying to say). But again, it doesn't matter..because we have AD, Horford, Brown and a healthier Hayward. It's up to Danny to build a team/convince him to stay. Not me. I'm just supporting the risk. Not saying there isn't a risk. But I'd rather try and fail than to never try at all. Maybe I just don't care enough about the Celtics that losing Tatum and AD isn't that big a deal. But the risk is worth it. And it always will be to me.

On the contrary, tell me how you build a title team around Tatum, Brown, Smart? What do you do?

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Our title aspirations are over for the foreseeable future if Irving bails

That's all I know

[nickgammon]

Well...Toronto did pull the trigger on getting Ibaka and Leonard...Paid off big time for them....just as easily could have failed.

It paid off for them because the Kawhi trade was cheap. They lost nothing. Really, getting out from under the DDR contract is a win in itself. Yes AD is worth trading for, but not overpaying for. If we trade away nearly everything of quality, what do we use to build around AD on the fly over the course of 1 season, without burying our future?

So many teams could have put together better packages for Kawhi than the Raptors, not just the Celtics. People act like Jaylen and Jayson have already gotten close to their ceiling. They just had their first legal beers a few months ago (JB maybe a year or so).

I don’t believe the Celtics should trade either for AD unless he’s enthused by a new start with the Celtics, and it sounds like it might actually be his worst nightmare. If he had two years on his contract or was a RFA, different story. But if he’s going to walk next year, I’ll take my chance on two future all stars, trading into the top-10 this year, and the Memphis pick.

[MaxwellSmart]

I think it will end up being Brown,Smart,Yabu,14th Pick and Top 3 Protected Memphis Pick....if we do get AD. Danny needs to roll some dice this time around--hoping AD stays, because Lakers might be capped out next Summer and LBJ gonna be 40.

[zoyathedestroya]

The Finals MVP was picked 15th in the draft.

Whatever Danny does, hold on to that #14 pick. It could be gold.

[MaxwellSmart]

The Finals MVP was picked 15th in the draft.

Whatever Danny does, hold on to that #14 pick. It could be gold.

Ha.

[The Corey's]

The Finals MVP was picked 15th in the draft.

Whatever Danny does, hold on to that #14 pick. It could be gold.

Hes just gonna trade up and draft Kelly olynyk and pass on giannis again

[zoyathedestroya]

I think it will end up being Brown,Smart,Yabu,14th Pick and Top 3 Protected Memphis Pick....if we do get AD. Danny needs to roll some dice this time around--hoping AD stays, because Lakers might be capped out next Summer and LBJ gonna be 40.

Unfortunately, you can't put additional protections on a pick you inherited. But that's a fair offer imo for a guy most likely leaving in a year.

[MaxwellSmart]

I think it will end up being Brown,Smart,Yabu,14th Pick and Top 3 Protected Memphis Pick....if we do get AD. Danny needs to roll some dice this time around--hoping AD stays, because Lakers might be capped out next Summer and LBJ gonna be 40.

Unfortunately, you can't put additional protections on a pick you inherited. But that's a fair offer imo for a guy most likely leaving in a year.

I think you can...they changed that rule.

[Darthlukey]

I think it will end up being Brown,Smart,Yabu,14th Pick and Top 3 Protected Memphis Pick....if we do get AD. Danny needs to roll some dice this time around--hoping AD stays, because Lakers might be capped out next Summer and LBJ gonna be 40.

That deal has some merit, plenty of assets to use to further build the team. Might be tough to get any protection on the Grizz pick though

[Darthlukey]

I think it will end up being Brown,Smart,Yabu,14th Pick and Top 3 Protected Memphis Pick....if we do get AD. Danny needs to roll some dice this time around--hoping AD stays, because Lakers might be capped out next Summer and LBJ gonna be 40.

Unfortunately, you can't put additional protections on a pick you inherited. But that's a fair offer imo for a guy most likely leaving in a year.

I think you can...they changed that rule.

You are correct, you can now protect a pick that isnt yours, like what Philly did with Lakers/ Sacto picks in the Celts deal with them

[Jaqua92]

Well...Toronto did pull the trigger on getting Ibaka and Leonard...Paid off big time for them....just as easily could have failed.

It paid off for them because the Kawhi trade was cheap. They lost nothing. Really, getting out from under the DDR contract is a win in itself. Yes AD is worth trading for, but not overpaying for. If we trade away nearly everything of quality, what do we use to build around AD on the fly over the course of 1 season, without burying our future?

So many teams could have put together better packages for Kawhi than the Raptors, not just the Celtics. People act like Jaylen and Jayson have already gotten close to their ceiling. They just had their first legal beers a few months ago (JB maybe a year or so).

I don’t believe the Celtics should trade either for AD unless he’s enthused by a new start with the Celtics, and it sounds like it might actually be his worst nightmare. If he had two years on his contract or was a RFA, different story. But if he’s going to walk next year, I’ll take my chance on two future all stars, trading into the top-10 this year, and the Memphis pick.

How do you know they are two Future all stars? (Which isn't enough regardless) how do you expect us to get an mvp Calibur player?

In all the 18 banners for the Celtics, how many of those didn't have an MVP WINNER (never mind player) on that team?

And that was when super stars were less important now..

Disappointed

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[soxfan2003]

Well...Toronto did pull the trigger on getting Ibaka and Leonard...Paid off big time for them....just as easily could have failed.

Gasol was a good move as well. And Leonard trade also brought in Danny Green whose is a good role player even though he makes some mistakes.

In fairness to Ainge and I have been willing to criticize him over the years.... Arguably, the two best assets the Raptors traded for Leonard were a decent role playing big picked #9 in the 2016 draft and a top 20 protected pick. It was clear DD just didn't have the talent to get the job done as a #1 or #2 player on a championship team. Some team may trade a few first round picks for DD if they could hoist a bad contract in return but I didn't think he should have positive value for teams trying to win a title.

I thought the Leonard trade was a no brainer for Toronto. Even if Leonard missed the entire year and left, they could have just started to rebuild.

[nickgammon]

The Finals MVP was picked 15th in the draft.

Whatever Danny does, hold on to that #14 pick. It could be gold.

And the potential league MVP was also the 15th pick.

[fallguy]

The important thing is EVERYONE is primed and ready to be ANGRY regardless of what happens.

I know you guys can do it.

[zoyathedestroya]

The Finals MVP was picked 15th in the draft.

Whatever Danny does, hold on to that #14 pick. It could be gold.

And the potential league MVP was also the 15th pick.

Gotta trade down. I wonder if Pistons are keen on trading their pick for Tatum and the 14th pick.

[TheMartian]

Why do I feel like neither the Celtics nor the Lakers will land AD, and another team originally not rumored to be in the running will get him? Kind of like what happened with Kawhi to Toronto, or Paul George to OKC.

[djFan71]

The Finals MVP was picked 15th in the draft.

Whatever Danny does, hold on to that #14 pick. It could be gold.

And the potential league MVP was also the 15th pick.

Gotta trade down. I wonder if Pistons are keen on trading their pick for Tatum and the 14th pick.

Giannis was 15 as well.
We should also be looking at 35 (Draymond) and 41 (Jokic)
Or is it up to 7 (Curry) or 3 (MJ)?

Of course, if we stay at 14 we could finally have a player like Marcus Morris or Kris Humprhies on this team.

EDIT: Realized that's what nick meant, re Giannis.

[batabatuta]

Tbh, if we fail to get our coveted player(s) this year, maybe Danny Ainge should step down. He has done his job and i just thought his time is up. It's not that he failed us, on the contrary, he was one of the best GMs anybody can ask for. Maybe it is just time to find someone with a different management strategy for the future of this team. Maybe this time other teams won't be wary to deal with us thinking we would fleece them. Maybe by not playing so safe, we could land a diamond in the rough player that we long coveted. The NBA landscape is changing and so must we. The only true superstar MVP caliber we had from the '80s to present was Larry Bird. If other teams could do it multiple times, why can't we?

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Gotta go all in for AD now. With Klay and KD out, the field will be as open as we've seen it in years, especially if Kawhi still leaves. Pull the trigger, Danny.