The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

[snowman]

Lakers signing IT. Would rather have him than Schroder tbh.

is this written in stone? Link for it ?

I was thinking we could trade Hernangomez and a 2nd for a fake second.
Hernangomez cap hit is 7,012,440.00
we are over tax kine by -6,319,171.00
gets us under the lux tax by +693,269.00
sign IT for 10 yr vet min of -2,641,691.00
would put us back over tax by -1,948,422.00


I see it now, signed for a 10 day deal.

[Triple7]

I am torn on Sabonis and his fit with the Jays

one one hand he doesnt space the floor, so he will be a paint clog with Timelord, who is needed to cover for him defensively.

So lineup would have to start Horford. And how long with Al hold up? And can you even get him without dealing Al?

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Sabonis
Horford

edit, could run him at center I suppose, but he is not a threat to block any shots, and isnt great in switches.

Smart
??
Brown
Tatum
Sabonis

He will fit well with the Jays. A really good post up player, rebounder, can pass the ball well for a big man, and shoot a decent clip at the perimeter. Something that Timelord doesn’t have. Better to have some low post threat, than all of our guys just passing the ball outside the 3pt line. Who cares if he clogs the paint. Most of our offense focuses on chucking 3’s anyways.

But those threes come from the passer attacking the paint and kicking out.

He can be an Al Horford fit into our offense, better n fact, but at a loss on defense

Defense is overrated nowadays man! How many times we’ve seen Smart get beat by a good offensive player one on one. Guards getting layups over Rob and Horford. Sabonis will fit just fine with the Jays. Plus we don’t have enough shooters to kick the ball out to to begin with. We need another offensive option when shooting struggles. We don’t have that. Rob can’t really score on his own. Al doesn’t post up much, and struggles a lot with his shooting lately.

[Triple7]

I can't let this Go, without a comment. I agree. IT can Not play a lick of defense, is on a Kemba walker level of bad or worse.. And yet, his poor defense wouldn't be as a starter, but vs backups so not as magnified. but he can provide a scoring spark in a much better way than Schro.. He can flat out stroke the 3s, move the ball and get in the lane and distribute better than any of Schro's prime.

Try doubling up on Tatum with IT with there! try going under the screens with IT and the ball in his hands.

the Boston crowd would be so electric for IT.

All that and maybe just maybe the "Ju Ju' we seem to have will be cleansed..

I know it's towards the end of your post, but you had me at "Ju Ju".

Also, I feel IT would just be happy to be on a team. Ime can choose to play PP over him in some games and he wouldn't mind. Can't do that with DS who's playing for his next contract.

agree again.. probably would take PP under his wings as well. So who should I blame for this? Good ol Brad (who absolutely knows IT as a person and player) or our good ol "defensive first" coach Ime??

I need to vent at someone!!

Come on man! We will never give IT a shot here. Ime wants defensive players. He would have been a perfect offensive spark off the bench here, but sadly, bad defensive players won’t get minutes here. Glad he went to some team, even if it were the lakers. Good for him. Wish him the best.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Lakers signing IT. Would rather have him than Schroder tbh.

is this written in stone? Link for it ?

I was thinking we could trade Hernangomez and a 2nd for a fake second.
Hernangomez cap hit is 7,012,440.00
we are over tax kine by -6,319,171.00
gets us under the lux tax by +693,269.00
sign IT for 10 yr vet min of -2,641,691.00
would put us back over tax by -1,948,422.00


I see it now, signed for a 10 day deal.

Didn't realize Juancho alone puts us into the luxury tax.. wonder if they'll try to unload him. Maybe as part of a Schroeder trade..?

[cl2117]

I'm not at all for a Jaylen trade, just bored. That being said I'd be curious what we could get on top of Jaylen for Simmons and whether that could be then flipped for a third piece along with some of our picks.

Something like:

Brown/Juancho for Simmons/Curry/a first round pick and a swap

Take the first and the swap from Philly add a first and a swap of our own and try and go get Jerami Grant or Sabonis. Something like JRich, Nesmith, 2 firsts and 2 swaps.

C's could have:

Smart/Schroder/PP
Curry/
Tatum/Romeo
Grant/G. Williams
Horford/Timelord/Enes

I'd MUCH MUCH rather land Grant/Sabonis without dealing Jaylen and basically have a Tatum/Brown/X big three. They're not exactly the third star I think we need, they're a level below, but they could be a stepping stone. Problem is I'm struggling to find deals that wouldn't easily be beat out by other teams if those guys truly are on the block.

[Larry_Russell]

I'm not at all for a Jaylen trade, just bored. That being said I'd be curious what we could get on top of Jaylen for Simmons and whether that could be then flipped for a third piece along with some of our picks.

Something like:

Brown/Juancho for Simmons/Curry/a first round pick and a swap

Take the first and the swap from Philly add a first and a swap of our own and try and go get Jerami Grant or Sabonis. Something like JRich, Nesmith, 2 firsts and 2 swaps.

C's could have:

Smart/Schroder/PP
Curry/
Tatum/Romeo
Grant/G. Williams
Horford/Timelord/Enes

I'd MUCH MUCH rather land Grant/Sabonis without dealing Jaylen and basically have a Tatum/Brown/X big three. They're not exactly the third star I think we need, they're a level below, but they could be a stepping stone. Problem is I'm struggling to find deals that wouldn't easily be beat out by other teams if those guys truly are on the block.

I don't think the 3rd person of the big three needs to actually be a big one right now.

I think the right player becomes an invaluable 3rd star because of the fit. Much like Draymond in GS. Put him on most teams and he isnt a "star" on GS he sure as hell is.

So we need to look for guys whos primary skill can be exploited by the Jays. I feel like that skill is shooting.

So we need a dead eye shooter.

Will Barton (38% on 6.5 atttempts)
Doug MCDermott (40% on 5 attempts)
Luke Kennard (45% on 6 attempts)
PJ Washington (43% on 4.5 attempts)
Joe Harris (46.5 on 6.5 attempts)


I also believe we have the goods to be able to try and land a couple of those guys in a deal involving Schroder and bench pieces.

I propose Richardson and Schroeder for Barton and BolBol

Smart/Pritchard
Barton/Romeo/Thomas
Brown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/GrantW/Parker/Juancho
Horford/Timelord/Kanter/BolBol/Bruno

Have Juancho and Bruno who can be used to bring in a 3rd pg from a team looking to drop a little salary. (detroit for Joseph?)

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y4cdhrzv

[ddb]

I'm not at all for a Jaylen trade, just bored. That being said I'd be curious what we could get on top of Jaylen for Simmons and whether that could be then flipped for a third piece along with some of our picks.

Something like:

Brown/Juancho for Simmons/Curry/a first round pick and a swap

Take the first and the swap from Philly add a first and a swap of our own and try and go get Jerami Grant or Sabonis. Something like JRich, Nesmith, 2 firsts and 2 swaps.

C's could have:

Smart/Schroder/PP
Curry/
Tatum/Romeo
Grant/G. Williams
Horford/Timelord/Enes

I'd MUCH MUCH rather land Grant/Sabonis without dealing Jaylen and basically have a Tatum/Brown/X big three. They're not exactly the third star I think we need, they're a level below, but they could be a stepping stone. Problem is I'm struggling to find deals that wouldn't easily be beat out by other teams if those guys truly are on the block.

I don't think the 3rd person of the big three needs to actually be a big one right now.

I think the right player becomes an invaluable 3rd star because of the fit. Much like Draymond in GS. Put him on most teams and he isnt a "star" on GS he sure as hell is.

So we need to look for guys whos primary skill can be exploited by the Jays. I feel like that skill is shooting.

So we need a dead eye shooter.

Will Barton (38% on 6.5 atttempts)
Doug MCDermott (40% on 5 attempts)
Luke Kennard (45% on 6 attempts)
PJ Washington (43% on 4.5 attempts)
Joe Harris (46.5 on 6.5 attempts)


I also believe we have the goods to be able to try and land a couple of those guys in a deal involving Schroder and bench pieces.

I propose Richardson and Schroeder for Barton and BolBol

Smart/Pritchard
Barton/Romeo/Thomas
Brown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/GrantW/Parker/Juancho
Horford/Timelord/Kanter/BolBol/Bruno

Have Juancho and Bruno who can be used to bring in a 3rd pg from a team looking to drop a little salary. (detroit for Joseph?)

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y4cdhrzv

I love the creativity, but in evaluating this deal I just can't see how it makes the Celtics a better team.

If the Celtics could score PJ Washington somehow I'm ALL ABOUT THAT. I like him a lot as a complimentary guy. I just don't see why the Hornets would move him. 23, on rookie deal, solid.

[Larry_Russell]

I'm not at all for a Jaylen trade, just bored. That being said I'd be curious what we could get on top of Jaylen for Simmons and whether that could be then flipped for a third piece along with some of our picks.

Something like:

Brown/Juancho for Simmons/Curry/a first round pick and a swap

Take the first and the swap from Philly add a first and a swap of our own and try and go get Jerami Grant or Sabonis. Something like JRich, Nesmith, 2 firsts and 2 swaps.

C's could have:

Smart/Schroder/PP
Curry/
Tatum/Romeo
Grant/G. Williams
Horford/Timelord/Enes

I'd MUCH MUCH rather land Grant/Sabonis without dealing Jaylen and basically have a Tatum/Brown/X big three. They're not exactly the third star I think we need, they're a level below, but they could be a stepping stone. Problem is I'm struggling to find deals that wouldn't easily be beat out by other teams if those guys truly are on the block.

I don't think the 3rd person of the big three needs to actually be a big one right now.

I think the right player becomes an invaluable 3rd star because of the fit. Much like Draymond in GS. Put him on most teams and he isnt a "star" on GS he sure as hell is.

So we need to look for guys whos primary skill can be exploited by the Jays. I feel like that skill is shooting.

So we need a dead eye shooter.

Will Barton (38% on 6.5 atttempts)
Doug MCDermott (40% on 5 attempts)
Luke Kennard (45% on 6 attempts)
PJ Washington (43% on 4.5 attempts)
Joe Harris (46.5 on 6.5 attempts)


I also believe we have the goods to be able to try and land a couple of those guys in a deal involving Schroder and bench pieces.

I propose Richardson and Schroeder for Barton and BolBol

Smart/Pritchard
Barton/Romeo/Thomas
Brown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/GrantW/Parker/Juancho
Horford/Timelord/Kanter/BolBol/Bruno

Have Juancho and Bruno who can be used to bring in a 3rd pg from a team looking to drop a little salary. (detroit for Joseph?)

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y4cdhrzv

I love the creativity, but in evaluating this deal I just can't see how it makes the Celtics a better team.

If the Celtics could score PJ Washington somehow I'm ALL ABOUT THAT. I like him a lot as a complimentary guy. I just don't see why the Hornets would move him. 23, on rookie deal, solid.

Give them Timelord and I think you get Washington.

But then we need to replace Timelord?

[Larry_Russell]

I'm not at all for a Jaylen trade, just bored. That being said I'd be curious what we could get on top of Jaylen for Simmons and whether that could be then flipped for a third piece along with some of our picks.

Something like:

Brown/Juancho for Simmons/Curry/a first round pick and a swap

Take the first and the swap from Philly add a first and a swap of our own and try and go get Jerami Grant or Sabonis. Something like JRich, Nesmith, 2 firsts and 2 swaps.

C's could have:

Smart/Schroder/PP
Curry/
Tatum/Romeo
Grant/G. Williams
Horford/Timelord/Enes

I'd MUCH MUCH rather land Grant/Sabonis without dealing Jaylen and basically have a Tatum/Brown/X big three. They're not exactly the third star I think we need, they're a level below, but they could be a stepping stone. Problem is I'm struggling to find deals that wouldn't easily be beat out by other teams if those guys truly are on the block.

I don't think the 3rd person of the big three needs to actually be a big one right now.

I think the right player becomes an invaluable 3rd star because of the fit. Much like Draymond in GS. Put him on most teams and he isnt a "star" on GS he sure as hell is.

So we need to look for guys whos primary skill can be exploited by the Jays. I feel like that skill is shooting.

So we need a dead eye shooter.

Will Barton (38% on 6.5 atttempts)
Doug MCDermott (40% on 5 attempts)
Luke Kennard (45% on 6 attempts)
PJ Washington (43% on 4.5 attempts)
Joe Harris (46.5 on 6.5 attempts)


I also believe we have the goods to be able to try and land a couple of those guys in a deal involving Schroder and bench pieces.

I propose Richardson and Schroeder for Barton and BolBol

Smart/Pritchard
Barton/Romeo/Thomas
Brown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/GrantW/Parker/Juancho
Horford/Timelord/Kanter/BolBol/Bruno

Have Juancho and Bruno who can be used to bring in a 3rd pg from a team looking to drop a little salary. (detroit for Joseph?)

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y4cdhrzv

I love the creativity, but in evaluating this deal I just can't see how it makes the Celtics a better team.

If the Celtics could score PJ Washington somehow I'm ALL ABOUT THAT. I like him a lot as a complimentary guy. I just don't see why the Hornets would move him. 23, on rookie deal, solid.

Give them Timelord and I think you get Washington.
But then we need to replace Timelord?


Timelord and a 2nd to Charlotte
Schroder to Denver
Washington, BolBol and Campazo to Boston

Smart/Pritchard/Campazo
Brown/Romeo/Thomas
Washington/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/Grant/Parker
Horford/Kanter/Bruno/BolBol

Then move Juancho for relief

[TheOGJabroni]

Celtics in:
Jerami Grant & Kelly Olynyk

Pistons in:
Al Horford, Juancho Hernangomez, Celtics 1st, Clippers 1st (protected)

Clippers in:
Dennis Schroder, Celtics 2nd

Basic framework I came up with. J. Grant is a nice fit with this Celtics team & Brad has already shown he's willing to bring old C's back & Olynyk will be totally fine with a reserve role behind Rob, leaving the PF spot open for Grant. This also puts us under the tax line.

Pistons are mostly in it for the two 1st round picks but also shave off some years of salary to start a proper rebuild quicker.

Clippers acquire a reliable backup PG using a TPE at the cost of a 1st rounder. Celtics send a 2nd.

[jfs1000d]

What’s the purpose of juanacho, parker , Fernando on this team? The deep bench never plays. I dont Get why they are even here. Just trade and sign g leaguers forget mimimim. You get the same production.

Ime has a coaching management issue.

Starting 5, Schroeder, Grant, Richardson. 8 man team. The other 7 are spare parts.


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[BK_2020]

On which NBA team do 13th, 14th, 15th players get regular, significant minutes? Are the Suns fans complaining about Ish Wainwright getting 2 minutes of burn per game? Really makes you think.

[GoGreen]

The more the Wizards suck the more I'm wondering if Beal is an option. If he's gonna be on a .500 team, why not the one with his best friend and another all star?

[playa-hater]

I don't think the 3rd person of the big three needs to actually be a big one right now.

I think the right player becomes an invaluable 3rd star because of the fit. Much like Draymond in GS. Put him on most teams and he isnt a "star" on GS he sure as hell is.

So we need to look for guys whos primary skill can be exploited by the Jays. I feel like that skill is shooting.

So we need a dead eye shooter.

Will Barton (38% on 6.5 atttempts)
Doug MCDermott (40% on 5 attempts)
Luke Kennard (45% on 6 attempts)
PJ Washington (43% on 4.5 attempts)
Joe Harris (46.5 on 6.5 attempts)


I also believe we have the goods to be able to try and land a couple of those guys in a deal involving Schroder and bench pieces.

I propose Richardson and Schroeder for Barton and BolBol

Smart/Pritchard
Barton/Romeo/Thomas
Brown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/GrantW/Parker/Juancho
Horford/Timelord/Kanter/BolBol/Bruno

Have Juancho and Bruno who can be used to bring in a 3rd pg from a team looking to drop a little salary. (detroit for Joseph?)

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y4cdhrzv

I love the creativity, but in evaluating this deal I just can't see how it makes the Celtics a better team.

If the Celtics could score PJ Washington somehow I'm ALL ABOUT THAT. I like him a lot as a complimentary guy. I just don't see why the Hornets would move him. 23, on rookie deal, solid.

Give them Timelord and I think you get Washington.

But then we need to replace Timelord?

I also really like Washington in both skill set and fit, but I also love RW and we have no one else..

[playa-hater]

The more the Wizards suck the more I'm wondering if Beal is an option. If he's gonna be on a .500 team, why not the one with his best friend and another all star?

Beal is of course and option, betting still top priority for Boston, but is he realistically going to be available before the season ends??

[GoGreen]

I love the creativity, but in evaluating this deal I just can't see how it makes the Celtics a better team.

If the Celtics could score PJ Washington somehow I'm ALL ABOUT THAT. I like him a lot as a complimentary guy. I just don't see why the Hornets would move him. 23, on rookie deal, solid.

Give them Timelord and I think you get Washington.

But then we need to replace Timelord?

I also really like Washington in both skill set and fit, but I also love RW and we have no one else..

This is why I'm on the TPE for Christian Wood bandwagon. This team is going to have problems at C. Al is 35, Rob is good but unreliable as a starter.

Thing is, I think Wyc is too damn cheap to spend the money needed to bring in TPE guy without dumping salary.

[GoGreen]

The more the Wizards suck the more I'm wondering if Beal is an option. If he's gonna be on a .500 team, why not the one with his best friend and another all star?

Beal is of course and option, betting still top priority for Boston, but is he realistically going to be available before the season ends??

Might have to be a sign and trade in the off season, we'll see

[playa-hater]

Give them Timelord and I think you get Washington.

But then we need to replace Timelord?

I also really like Washington in both skill set and fit, but I also love RW and we have no one else..

This is why I'm on the TPE for Christian Wood bandwagon. This team is going to have problems at C. Al is 35, Rob is good but unreliable as a starter.

Thing is, I think Wyc is too damn cheap to spend the money needed to bring in TPE guy without dumping salary.

I love C Wood and think he is a good fit and need. But I am guessing a 1st to get him, But are we holding all our firsts out of trades because they want to go all in on Beal this summer. Just my guess.

[Half-Full]

What’s the purpose of juanacho, parker , Fernando on this team? The deep bench never plays. I dont Get why they are even here. Just trade and sign g leaguers forget mimimim. You get the same production.

Ime has a coaching management issue.

Starting 5, Schroeder, Grant, Richardson. 8 man team. The other 7 are spare parts.


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I agree, and we have some pretty good G-leaguers up in Maine. Hauser, Thomas, Pinson, Kornet... Might even end up with better production adding those guys.

[Larry_Russell]

I also really like Washington in both skill set and fit, but I also love RW and we have no one else..

This is why I'm on the TPE for Christian Wood bandwagon. This team is going to have problems at C. Al is 35, Rob is good but unreliable as a starter.

Thing is, I think Wyc is too damn cheap to spend the money needed to bring in TPE guy without dumping salary.

I love C Wood and think he is a good fit and need. But I am guessing a 1st to get him, But are we holding all our firsts out of trades because they want to go all in on Beal this summer. Just my guess.

IDK if a first and TPE gets Wood.

Seems light to me.

BUt if it did work, then youth and TPE would work as well.