2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

The Giannis trade which makes the most sense: Dallas sends Flagg and Draft Picks to the Bucks for Giannis. The Mavs win now, the Bucks maximize his trade value, everybody happy...

Except that the bucks dont have any future picks.

The Bucks are the ones receiving the Picks.

[Larry_Russell]

The Giannis trade which makes the most sense: Dallas sends Flagg and Draft Picks to the Bucks for Giannis. The Mavs win now, the Bucks maximize his trade value, everybody happy...

Except that the bucks dont have any future picks.

The Bucks are the ones receiving the Picks.

I mean that a Dallas team with AD, Giannis and Irving are not going to have good picks.

A Bucks team, without any of their own picks for years and years and having only Cooper flagg, an injured Dame and nothing else is going to suck balls.

[redslastlaugh]

Rumors on hoopshype, not confirmed but the scuttlebutt is that Cedric Coward is going to withdraw from the draft and that the Duke NIL money is $3 million for this upcoming season and Coward is gonna take that Duke coin.

[Kalela]

In typical Boston fashion, the local kid ,future franchise superstar was in the draft class the year before a potential rebuild begins…

next year draft has a top prospect from Brockton

AJ Dybantsa has the potential to be just as good as Flagg too.

[Bar Fight]

Give me Darryn Peterson over AJ

[Hal14]

We need to desperately hit on a draft pick, otherwise we're utterly ****

We're the defending champs. If you took the 30 teams in the league, and wrote down the last time they won a chip, and ranked them in order so most recent chip was at the bottom, we'd be at the very bottom..which means we'd also be at the bottom of ranking the teams who are most desperate to do something.

If we draft a good player this year, great. But not the end of the world if we don't.

[Kalela]

Is this Yanic Konan Niederhauser kid any good at basketball? His combine measurements are pretty good.

[jonige94]

We need to desperately hit on a draft pick, otherwise we're utterly ****

We're the defending champs. If you took the 30 teams in the league, and wrote down the last time they won a chip, and ranked them in order so most recent chip was at the bottom, we'd be at the very bottom..which means we'd also be at the bottom of ranking the teams who are most desperate to do something.

If we draft a good player this year, great. But not the end of the world if we don't.

Sorry to say, but that's an absolute loser mentality.

[djFan71]

Rumors on hoopshype, not confirmed but the scuttlebutt is that Cedric Coward is going to withdraw from the draft and that the Duke NIL money is $3 million for this upcoming season and Coward is gonna take that Duke coin.

NIL is crazy, lol. Ruining the late first / early second of this draft. Which is very inconvenient timing for us to have 28 & 32. In a few years it'll reset, but this year is taking the worst hit of it.

[Hal14]

Is this Yanic Konan Niederhauser kid any good at basketball? His combine measurements are pretty good.

Haven't seen a ton of his film, but from what I did see, it looked pretty meh.

Seems like maybe a summer league invite type..or late 2nd rounder at best.

[cloverleaf]

Who needs Flagg? We've got Rico!

[redslastlaugh]

If I'm Cooper Flagg, I'm meeting with my team today to express my absolute lack of interest in going to the Mavs under Nico Harrison
begin the process of working the back channels, that you want to Dallas to move off the first pick

If Cooper can leverage Dallas to trade the pick, great he can stay in the draft
If Cooper can't leverage Dallas to move #1, go back to Duke, make $6 million instead of $12 and come out next yr
you'll have a way better chance at a better situaion next year

and to the people who are like, Cooper needs to get the clock started to his first max, lol
why?
If he comes out a year later and has 10 years of max money vs 11 you are talking about the difference between making $500 million vs $550 million ... which is a meaningless difference and secondly, by being in a good situaiton, Flagg can make it up with endorsements even though it doesnt matter at all whether you make $500 million or $550 ...

Power play Cooper, it's your time!

[Hal14]

If I'm Cooper Flagg, I'm meeting with my team today to express my absolute lack of interest in going to the Mavs under Nico Harrison
begin the process of working the back channels, that you want to Dallas to move off the first pick

If Cooper can leverage Dallas to trade the pick, great he can stay in the draft
If Cooper can't leverage Dallas to move #1, go back to Duke, make $6 million instead of $12 and come out next yr
you'll have a way better chance at a better situaion next year

and to the people who are like, Cooper needs to get the clock started to his first max, lol
why?
If he comes out a year later and has 10 years of max money vs 11 you are talking about the difference between making $500 million vs $550 million ... which is a meaningless difference and secondly, by being in a good situaiton, Flagg can make it up with endorsements even though it doesnt matter at all whether you make $500 million or $550 ...

Power play Cooper, it's your time!

Not gonna happen. He's a Maverick

He'll be in a great situation there..

[bfchs123]

If I'm Cooper Flagg, I'm meeting with my team today to express my absolute lack of interest in going to the Mavs under Nico Harrison
begin the process of working the back channels, that you want to Dallas to move off the first pick

If Cooper can leverage Dallas to trade the pick, great he can stay in the draft
If Cooper can't leverage Dallas to move #1, go back to Duke, make $6 million instead of $12 and come out next yr
you'll have a way better chance at a better situaion next year

and to the people who are like, Cooper needs to get the clock started to his first max, lol
why?
If he comes out a year later and has 10 years of max money vs 11 you are talking about the difference between making $500 million vs $550 million ... which is a meaningless difference and secondly, by being in a good situaiton, Flagg can make it up with endorsements even though it doesnt matter at all whether you make $500 million or $550 ...

Power play Cooper, it's your time!

Why would he ever do that, Dallas is like the best situation he could get. It's either that or end up on the Jazz, Trailblazers, or Charlotte - those are infinitely worse options

[redslastlaugh]

Not gonna happen. He's a Maverick

He'll be in a great situation there..

You may be right that it'll never happened.

I don't know that the Mavs are a great situation tho. Kyrie tore his ACL. AD is the most unreliable star and his agent, Rich Paul, is a meddlesome agent who never had the teams interest at heart. The owners are hated in Texas. Nico Harrison is hated even more than the owners. After trading luka, Nico moved Quentin Grimes who blew up in Philly. You are pick negative over this draft pick window even after adding draft capital in the Luka trade. There are no young dudes on the team other than Lively and Christie...

Mavs are kind of a crap situation, if we're being honest

[redslastlaugh]

Why would he ever do that, Dallas is like the best situation he could get. It's either that or end up on the Jazz, Trailblazers, or Charlotte - those are infinitely worse options

I wrote back the answer to Hal... In my opinion, Dallas is a crap situation. Philly is clearly worse. Utah and New Orleans are tough situations as well. Every other team is a better spot than Dallas. Charlotte is way better, Toronto, Brooklyn way better. Houston way better. Portland is putting it together, that's a good situation.

Dallas Mavs is basically a **** show right now. Broadly and widely hated, who would want to be a part of that? If you, bfchs123, were coming out of college and signing a 4yr contract with your employer and your employer would have the option to match to keep you for four years after that, so eight years of your life... would you want to work for Nico Harrison and tie your professional success to his judgment? Like, who would want that?

What about the Mavs right now is a good situation? Are you forgetting Kyrie may miss 50 games or even the whole of next season contigngent on his ACL recovery. Literally, it's going so badly there that Dirk Nowitzski is distancing himself from the organization.

And, also, if you don't think Flagg has heard Celtics might be in the lottery next year and that possibility has not reverberated in his conversations, you are nuts my man.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

If I'm Cooper Flagg, I'm meeting with my team today to express my absolute lack of interest in going to the Mavs under Nico Harrison
begin the process of working the back channels, that you want to Dallas to move off the first pick

If Cooper can leverage Dallas to trade the pick, great he can stay in the draft
If Cooper can't leverage Dallas to move #1, go back to Duke, make $6 million instead of $12 and come out next yr
you'll have a way better chance at a better situaion next year

and to the people who are like, Cooper needs to get the clock started to his first max, lol
why?
If he comes out a year later and has 10 years of max money vs 11 you are talking about the difference between making $500 million vs $550 million ... which is a meaningless difference and secondly, by being in a good situaiton, Flagg can make it up with endorsements even though it doesnt matter at all whether you make $500 million or $550 ...

Power play Cooper, it's your time!

Did you see what happened to Tatum in the last game ? To Hayward in his first game as a Celtic ? Secure the bag first. Worry about clashing with management to demand a trade later.

[bfchs123]

Why would he ever do that, Dallas is like the best situation he could get. It's either that or end up on the Jazz, Trailblazers, or Charlotte - those are infinitely worse options

I wrote back the answer to Hal... In my opinion, Dallas is a crap situation. Philly is clearly worse. Utah and New Orleans are tough situations as well. Every other team is a better spot than Dallas. Charlotte is way better, Toronto, Brooklyn way better. Houston way better. Portland is putting it together, that's a good situation.

Dallas Mavs is basically a **** show right now. Broadly and widely hated, who would want to be a part of that? If you, bfchs123, were coming out of college and signing a 4yr contract with your employer and your employer would have the option to match to keep you for four years after that, so eight years of your life... would you want to work for Nico Harrison and tie your professional success to his judgment? Like, who would want that?

Why do you think Dallas is a good situation? Are you forgetting Kyrie may miss 50 games or even the whole of next season contigngent on his ACL recovery.

And, also, if you don't think Flagg has heard Celtics might be in the lottery next year and that possibility has not reverberated in his conversations, you are nuts my man.

Guess I disagree - I think Brown and Tatum being drafted into a contender had a very positive impact on their careers. Flagg fits in perfectly at the point forward spot and will get to handle the ball a lot immediately surrounded by actual good veteran players. Davis, Gafford, Lively, PJ Washington, and even Klay are legit players with playoff experience. Even when Kyrie comes back he's not a traditional PG so I think Flagg will still get to handle the ball like Tatum.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Finally, Stevens may actually trade up in the Draft, perhaps in the Top 5...

[jonige94]

Finally, Stevens may actually trade up in the Draft, perhaps in the Top 5...

Is the top of the draft any good other than flagg?