Trade Ideas Thread

[Andrew McCeltic]

Random Twitter accounts usually have major credibility issues.. Pretty sure the first two have been mentioned elsewhere and are being repackaged. The third is intelligent speculation, IMO.

[Bohemian]

Random Twitter accounts usually have major credibility issues.. Pretty sure the first two have been mentioned elsewhere and are being repackaged. The third is intelligent speculation, IMO.

I can imagine, but still it is food for thought.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I'd be shocked if we offered anything more than Wallace or expirings + sweetener for Lopez. Maybe Green.. It's possible we had talks before the two-month pre-deadline too.. Wright to the Cavs is obvious, because Cleveland is desperate for any and every center in the league. The Wallace-Bargnani is interesting, but I don't understand why NYK would sacrifice cap space for a heavily protected first-round pick...

[Chris4Vikes]

As a general point, the greatest asset the Celtics have going into the off-season is their own draft pick. In my opinion, a cardinal sin would be to allow Jeff Green (particularly), Bass, Thornton, etc. help you win more games if they are not part of your future. Like Rondo, the Celtics owe it to both to these players and the franchise to trade them, and soon. LIKE NOW.

I realize the return might not be what some folks want. But the greatest asset is that pick, that these guys will continue to devalue it as long as they play in a Celtics' uniform.

If I am Ainge, if no trades are available, I am willing to cut Bass,Thornton, and Nelson NOW. Let them go play for a winning team, assuming they can get a gig. Best for everyone.

Green is different. The Cs surely can get back an asset. But it needs to be made clear that he is on the block, and offers should be made because he's on the way out.

Sorry, but I don't see any reason to win any more games unless guys who are part of our future are winning them.

[Andrew McCeltic]

As a general point, the greatest asset the Celtics have going into the off-season is their own draft pick. In my opinion, a cardinal sin would be to allow Jeff Green (particularly), Bass, Thornton, etc. help you win more games if they are not part of your future. Like Rondo, the Celtics owe it to both to these players and the franchise to trade them, and soon. LIKE NOW.

I realize the return might not be what some folks want. But the greatest asset is that pick, that these guys will continue to devalue it as long as they play in a Celtics' uniform.

If I am Ainge, if no trades are available, I am willing to cut Bass,Thornton, and Nelson NOW. Let them go play for a winning team, assuming they can get a gig. Best for everyone.

Green is different. The Cs surely can get back an asset. But it needs to be made clear that he is on the block, and offers should be made because he's on the way out.

Sorry, but I don't see any reason to win any more games unless guys who are part of our future are winning them.

Sure. But we were a lottery team with an all-star point guard who's now gone. Green's not helping us that much at the moment, Bass/Thornton/Nelson aren't helping our record at all. I think Ainge is very careful to calibrate his tanking so that the team culture doesn't go completely in the toilet. It's very hard to rebuild and keep morale ok, and once you lose a positive "culture" it's difficult to bring it back.

[Chris4Vikes]

As a general point, the greatest asset the Celtics have going into the off-season is their own draft pick. In my opinion, a cardinal sin would be to allow Jeff Green (particularly), Bass, Thornton, etc. help you win more games if they are not part of your future. Like Rondo, the Celtics owe it to both to these players and the franchise to trade them, and soon. LIKE NOW.

I realize the return might not be what some folks want. But the greatest asset is that pick, that these guys will continue to devalue it as long as they play in a Celtics' uniform.

If I am Ainge, if no trades are available, I am willing to cut Bass,Thornton, and Nelson NOW. Let them go play for a winning team, assuming they can get a gig. Best for everyone.

Green is different. The Cs surely can get back an asset. But it needs to be made clear that he is on the block, and offers should be made because he's on the way out.

Sorry, but I don't see any reason to win any more games unless guys who are part of our future are winning them.

Sure. But we were a lottery team with an all-star point guard who's now gone. Green's not helping us that much at the moment, Bass/Thornton/Nelson aren't helping our record at all. I think Ainge is very careful to calibrate his tanking so that the team culture doesn't go completely in the toilet. It's very hard to rebuild and keep morale ok, and once you lose a positive "culture" it's difficult to bring it back.

OK, I get that. Not sure I agree, but I understand the argument. Just how is the culture healthy when multiple veterans don't want to be there and are disgruntled with playing time? It is unfair to ask Stephens to coach a lopsided and bloated roster.

James Young should be playing. And if James Young wins us some games, then great.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Yeah, I don't have a strong opinion about it personally but it seems like Ainge's m.o. The guy who drove Jim O'Brien to quit and said he didn't care about chemistry seems to have evolved into a GM who treats his clubhouse like a brand, trading players to good situations and wanting a stable organization to sell to free agents..

But who are the disgruntled vets on this team? That's barely a problem at the moment.. And I want them to develop Young, but that guy's got dbag Jordan Crawford/Nick Young "swag" potential written all over him- it's really important to keep him humble and disciplined as much as possible..

[Chris4Vikes]

Yeah, I don't have a strong opinion about it personally but it seems like Ainge's m.o. The guy who drove Jim O'Brien to quit and said he didn't care about chemistry seems to have evolved into a GM who treats his clubhouse like a brand, trading players to good situations and wanting a stable organization to sell to free agents..

But who are the disgruntled vets on this team? That's barely a problem at the moment.. And I want them to develop Young, but that guy's got dbag Jordan Crawford/Nick Young "swag" potential written all over him- it's really important to keep him humble and disciplined as much as possible..

I agree on Young. He needs to be play with a little more intensity on D, and there is a little bit of "swag" in him, which we don't need.

And to be clear, I think Ainge has done a heck of a job to this point. But the Rondo trade changed everything. We have the clarity we were looking for. This is a team rebuilding - no doubt any more. This type of team has no place for a Jeff Green, or Brandon Bass. I like those guys. But it's time to move on and fast.

As a franchise, there are only so many opportunities for a top 3-5 pick. Phil Jackson knows what he is doing. Ainge continues to play halfway.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Yeah, I don't have a strong opinion about it personally but it seems like Ainge's m.o. The guy who drove Jim O'Brien to quit and said he didn't care about chemistry seems to have evolved into a GM who treats his clubhouse like a brand, trading players to good situations and wanting a stable organization to sell to free agents..

But who are the disgruntled vets on this team? That's barely a problem at the moment.. And I want them to develop Young, but that guy's got dbag Jordan Crawford/Nick Young "swag" potential written all over him- it's really important to keep him humble and disciplined as much as possible..

I agree on Young. He needs to be play with a little more intensity on D, and there is a little bit of "swag" in him, which we don't need.

And to be clear, I think Ainge has done a heck of a job to this point. But the Rondo trade changed everything. We have the clarity we were looking for. This is a team rebuilding - no doubt any more. This type of team has no place for a Jeff Green, or Brandon Bass. I like those guys. But it's time to move on and fast.

As a franchise, there are only so many opportunities for a top 3-5 pick. Phil Jackson knows what he is doing. Ainge continues to play halfway.

Asobuckingloutely.

A.50% of the reason of james young being in maine is because he is literally "young" and they want to make sure he develops the professionals mentality, and being humble and sleeping in shittah motels with the red claws will build that work ethic up in him quicker than if he was poshing it out in a cambridge apartment.

B.the other 50% if reducing his playing time because he is a scoring threat and would help toward winning games. conversely he is a huge Liability on D so it seems like these two things would equal each other out, and would not be a significant reason to not play him with the big club.

This bring us to reason A,and what we should all be focusing on.

[Slartibartfast]

How about Jeff, Bass and Nelson to the Pelicans for Gordon's albatross, Austin Rivers and their 2017 pick?

Not a great return for taking on Gordon's deal, but it's a deal I think NOP would make.

Three reasons to do it:

1. The first rounder, obviously.
2. The roster-clearing + tanking benefits.
3. Making the West tougher to improve our LAC and Dallas picks.

[humblebum]

How about Jeff, Bass and Nelson to the Pelicans for Gordon's albatross, Austin Rivers and their 2017 pick?

Not a great return for taking on Gordon's deal, but it's a deal I think NOP would make.

Three reasons to do it:

1. The first rounder, obviously.
2. The roster-clearing + tanking benefits.
3. Making the West tougher to improve our LAC and Dallas picks.

No thanks. Why take on crap salary for an irrelevant pick?

Just trade Green for expiring salary and a second rounder if that's what it takes. I don't even care if they get anything worthwhile for Jeff at this point, he just needs to go asap.

[rmal8852]

How about Jeff, Bass and Nelson to the Pelicans for Gordon's albatross, Austin Rivers and their 2017 pick?

Not a great return for taking on Gordon's deal, but it's a deal I think NOP would make.

Three reasons to do it:

1. The first rounder, obviously.
2. The roster-clearing + tanking benefits.
3. Making the West tougher to improve our LAC and Dallas picks.

Not a bad idea, but I don't think they can trade that pick yet because of the conditions on the pick they gave to Houston. I could be wrong, though.

Houston could use Green, and we could use the Pels pick.

[Higgs Boston]

How about Jeff, Bass and Nelson to the Pelicans for Gordon's albatross, Austin Rivers and their 2017 pick?

Not a great return for taking on Gordon's deal, but it's a deal I think NOP would make.

Three reasons to do it:

1. The first rounder, obviously.
2. The roster-clearing + tanking benefits.
3. Making the West tougher to improve our LAC and Dallas picks.

IF pelicans want to dump gordon need a first round, and if they want to get Green need another first round.

[Chris4Vikes]

How about Jeff, Bass and Nelson to the Pelicans for Gordon's albatross, Austin Rivers and their 2017 pick?

Not a great return for taking on Gordon's deal, but it's a deal I think NOP would make.

Three reasons to do it:

1. The first rounder, obviously.
2. The roster-clearing + tanking benefits.
3. Making the West tougher to improve our LAC and Dallas picks.

No thanks. Why take on crap salary for an irrelevant pick?

Just trade Green for expiring salary and a second rounder if that's what it takes. I don't even care if they get anything worthwhile for Jeff at this point, he just needs to go asap.

I could not agree more. The Cs have plenty of picks, but only so many premium picks. This years' #1 pick could be one of those premium picks. Holding out for a second round or late first round pick for Jeff Green, at the expense of de-valuing this premium pick, is completely insane. The pick they are holding out for (and may or may not ever get) may amount to absolutely nothing. Fab Melo, for example.

[BleedGreen1989]

How about Jeff, Bass and Nelson to the Pelicans for Gordon's albatross, Austin Rivers and their 2017 pick?

Not a great return for taking on Gordon's deal, but it's a deal I think NOP would make.

Three reasons to do it:

1. The first rounder, obviously.
2. The roster-clearing + tanking benefits.
3. Making the West tougher to improve our LAC and Dallas picks.

No thanks. Why take on crap salary for an irrelevant pick?

Just trade Green for expiring salary and a second rounder if that's what it takes. I don't even care if they get anything worthwhile for Jeff at this point, he just needs to go asap.

I could not agree more. The Cs have plenty of picks, but only so many premium picks. This years' #1 pick could be one of those premium picks. Holding out for a second round or late first round pick for Jeff Green, at the expense of de-valuing this premium pick, is completely insane. The pick they are holding out for (and may or may not ever get) may amount to absolutely nothing. Fab Melo, for example.

This could be said about any non-lottery pick, really.

[BleedGreen1989]

Holidays are over and I'm back to staring straight at Danny Ainge, wondering what his next move will be.

God, I'm too impatient for this stuff...

[jfs1000d]

We got to clear the roster glut. It's ridiculous. Are No. 1-12 players are all the same talent level. That's a problem.

[Celts17Pride]

ShamsCharania
RealGM Sources: Boston, Sacramento, Utah expressing interest on undrafted Iowa State guard DeAndre Kane in Europe.

[brackdan70]

Thoughts on a three-way?
Bucks Out - Sanders and 2017 Clippers Pick.
Bucks in - McDermitt, Snell, Dunlevy

Bulls Out - McDermitt, Snell, Dunlevy
Bulls in - Green

Cs out - Green
Cs in - Sanders and 2017 Clippers Pick.

[bceltic55]

No to Sanders until we find out what is the matter with him. Beginning of the season out and now out, no explanation. Is it mental, drugs, just saying don;t go near him until questions are answered.