Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2020-21, Part 1

Post #1541 » by **Shak_Celts** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:11 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:

Read on Twitter

Celtics are now last in the Atlantic Division. When's the last time that happened?

Read your Bible, "the last shall be the first."

Spoiler:

FlatearthZorro · Post #1542 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:29 pm

Btw, LAL's current state is a proof that top tier talent wins in the NBA. LBJ can't do shyte on his own and that's not a knock on him, but saying this guy is the GOAT is a direct insult to Jordan who actually did more in 15 years than LBJ has in what 18-19? "LBJ MaKeSS EVeryBody betTeR". It's the talent on the roster, that's it. That's the current state of the NBA.

Post #1543 » by **darrendaye** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:04 pm

Read on Twitter

Shocking that Nick Nurse contracted it. /s

MagicBagley18 · Post #1544 » by **MagicBagley18** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:31 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:Btw, LAL's current state is a proof that top tier talent wins in the NBA. LBJ can't do shyte on his own and that's not a knock on him, but saying this guy is the GOAT is a direct insult to Jordan who actually did more in 15 years than LBJ has in what 18-19? "LBJ MaKeSS EVeryBody betTeR". It's the talent on the roster, that's it. That's the current state of the NBA.

He does make everyone better tho lol

FlatearthZorro · Post #1545 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:45 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:Btw, LAL's current state is a proof that top tier talent wins in the NBA. LBJ can't do shyte on his own and that's not a knock on him, but saying this guy is the GOAT is a direct insult to Jordan who actually did more in 15 years than LBJ has in what 18-19? "LBJ MaKeSS EVeryBody betTeR". It's the talent on the roster, that's it. That's the current state of the NBA.

He does make everyone better tho lol

Well, it still begs the question, what is LBJ's value without another top 5 player? Because obviously he can't win any games. And I dunno if Davis is top 5, but he's definitely got the skillset of a top 5.

Post #1546 » by **Bleeding Green** » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:49 pm

LeBron is still the best player in the NBA. How many consecutive Finals does he have to make before people just accept he's the GOAT. When he does it again this year maybe? Wow, yeah, he plays better when he has another really good player on the team.

Did he have a top-5 player on the roster when he won in Cleveland? How much dead weight did he carry in his early Cleveland years?

Brady isn't the GOAT because he needs Belichick or Gronk to win.

playa-hater · Post #1547 » by **playa-hater** » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:52 am

Damn Sac finally won a game. Barnes I think is as close to a glue player as we can get to replace Hayward.

18 points (I think) 8 rebounds 7 asts, 2 steals and a block without a turnover and pretty good defense.

Don't know if we can get him, but my first choice of a trade of a quality player that "may" not cost too much.

Gomes3PC · Post #1548 » by **Gomes3PC** » Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:06 am

darrendaye wrote:

Read on Twitter

Shocking that Nick Nurse contracted it. /s

Well, at least he can't grind Kemba to a pulp at the ASG this year.

playa-hater · Post #1549 » by **playa-hater** » Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:29 am

Speaking of Glue players, Draymond Green with 11 asts at halftime. Wow. I don't know what kind of defense he is playing now. But he is a really good Point Forward, Celtics need a player like that.

playa-hater · Post #1550 » by **playa-hater** » Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:01 am

And for those who thought Miami was dead. Big victory tonight. Also returned to last year's formula lately. Has been starting K Nunn again so G Dragic can feast against the 2nd unit, with Butler healthy and killing. Even won without Herro, who has also returned to the bench of late.

This Eastern Conference is WIDE Open. Outside of Philly and the Nets, almost anything is possible

BostonCouchGM · Post #1551 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:34 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:LeBron is still the best player in the NBA. How many consecutive Finals does he have to make before people just accept he's the GOAT. When he does it again this year maybe? Wow, yeah, he plays better when he has another really good player on the team.

Did he have a top-5 player on the roster when he won in Cleveland? How much dead weight did he carry in his early Cleveland years?

Brady isn't the GOAT because he needs Belichick or Gronk to win.

Lebron makes the Finals because the NBA ensures it. They hitched their wagon to him 15 years ago and made him the face of the league. He didn't win squat when he was the only star in CLE. It took a pathetic Eastern Conference the weakest it's ever been and him forming a super team with Wade and Bosh and even then he needed a fluke play Allen three to win one of those chips. Then him getting Kyrie and Love AND Kyrie hitting the shot AND the NBA rigging the Finals for CLE to beat GSW. Then the joke bubble championships when the Clippers conveniently lost and he had a top 5 player and MVP candidate in AD. He's not top 5 let alone GOAT. FOH

FlatearthZorro · Post #1552 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:46 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:LeBron is still the best player in the NBA. How many consecutive Finals does he have to make before people just accept he's the GOAT. When he does it again this year maybe? Wow, yeah, he plays better when he has another really good player on the team.

Did he have a top-5 player on the roster when he won in Cleveland? How much dead weight did he carry in his early Cleveland years?

Brady isn't the GOAT because he needs Belichick or Gronk to win.

Lebron makes the Finals because the NBA ensures it. They hitched their wagon to him 15 years ago and made him the face of the league. He didn't win squat when he was the only star in CLE. It took a pathetic Eastern Conference the weakest it's ever been and him forming a super team with Wade and Bosh and even then he needed a fluke play Allen three to win one of those chips. Then him getting Kyrie and Love AND Kyrie hitting the shot AND the NBA rigging the Finals for CLE to beat GSW. Then the joke bubble championships when the Clippers conveniently lost and he had a top 5 player and MVP candidate in AD. He's not top 5 let alone GOAT. FOH

Literally, I don't understand how anyone can make the argument for LBJ to be the GOAT, when the dude's been only winning with another top 5-10 player on his squad. And imo he's never defeated the odds, once. Not to mention Jordan having more team and individual awards in 15 yeas than LBJ has in 18... Everything points to Jordan easily being the better basketball player. This narrative that LBJ is the GOAT is one of the silliest, ever. How can you be better than someone when you don't have 70 of his accomplishments in a longer, softer career where you've been manipulating an entire league(players, trades, etc) in order for you to win...

Fierce1 · Post #1553 » by **Fierce1** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:35 am

Sixers lose to the Cavs for the 2nd time.

Nets about to lose to Dallas.

7 teams in the east have 17 losses.

Celts are still in it.

GrandTheftRondo · Post #1554 » by **GrandTheftRondo** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:23 pm

Ill News wrote:I am dying of jealousy from watching the Jazz play. Just beautiful offense, propped up by even more terrific defense.

We've never looked this dominant in any of Brad Stevens' years as a head coach. I'm still waiting for that day, and it looks like it's never gonna come.

Honestly, what do you expect out of this roster?

Boston moved the ball fairly well a few seasons back and that team is now gone.

The Jazz are a team that has been together for a number of seasons and has multiple good passers and savvy veterans and a lot of shooting.

Boston’s current roster doesn’t exactly scream passing to hit heaps of 3s juggernaut.

GrandTheftRondo · Post #1555 » by **GrandTheftRondo** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:27 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:LeBron is still the best player in the NBA. How many consecutive Finals does he have to make before people just accept he's the GOAT. When he does it again this year maybe? Wow, yeah, he plays better when he has another really good player on the team.

Did he have a top-5 player on the roster when he won in Cleveland? How much dead weight did he carry in his early Cleveland years?

Brady isn't the GOAT because he needs Belichick or Gronk to win.

Lebron makes the Finals because the NBA ensures it. They hitched their wagon to him 15 years ago and made him the face of the league. He didn't win squat when he was the only star in CLE. It took a pathetic Eastern Conference the weakest it's ever been and him forming a super team with Wade and Bosh and even then he needed a fluke play Allen three to win one of those chips. Then him getting Kyrie and Love AND Kyrie hitting the shot AND the NBA rigging the Finals for CLE to beat GSW. Then the joke bubble championships when the Clippers conveniently lost and he had a top 5 player and MVP candidate in AD. He's not top 5 let alone GOAT. FOH

Literally, I don't understand how anyone can make the argument for LBJ to be the GOAT, when the dude's been only winning with another top 5-10 player on his squad. And imo he's never defeated the odds, once. Not to mention Jordan having more team and individual awards in 15 yeas than LBJ has in 18... Everything points to Jordan easily being the better basketball player. This narrative that LBJ is the GOAT is one of the silliest, ever. How can you be better than someone when you don't have 70 of his accomplishments in a longer, softer career where you've been manipulating an entire league(players, trades, etc) in order for you to win...

I don’t like LeBron at all but are we just going to ignore MJ playing next to Pippen throughout his entire championship runs?

You need high talent around you in this league to win a title.

BK_2020 · Post #1556 » by **BK_2020** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:40 pm

Cavs with three Embiid stoppers just let him get 43 points on 21 shots

Fierce1 · Post #1557 » by **Fierce1** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:46 pm

BK_2020 wrote:Cavs with three Embiid stoppers just let him get 43 points on 21 shots

If they had no Embiid stopper then maybe Embiid would've gotten 50 or 60 points.

There's no stopping Embiid.

Cavs won because Seth Curry went 1-13 from the field and Toby didn't play due to injury.

BK_2020 · Post #1558 » by **BK_2020** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:14 pm

We don’t have a single Embiid stopper but he didn’t get 60 against us?

Fierce1 · Post #1559 » by **Fierce1** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:16 pm

BK_2020 wrote:We don’t have a single Embiid stopper but he didn’t get 60 against us?

But we lost, twice!

Post #1560 » by **Parliament10** » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:23 pm

GrandTheftRondo wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
BostonCouchGM wrote:
Lebron makes the Finals because the NBA ensures it. They hitched their wagon to him 15 years ago and made him the face of the league. He didn't win squat when he was the only star in CLE. It took a pathetic Eastern Conference the weakest it's ever been and him forming a super team with Wade and Bosh and even then he needed a fluke play Allen three to win one of those chips. Then him getting Kyrie and Love AND Kyrie hitting the shot AND the NBA rigging the Finals for CLE to beat GSW. Then the joke bubble championships when the Clippers conveniently lost and he had a top 5 player and MVP candidate in AD. He's not top 5 let alone GOAT. FOH

Literally, I don't understand how anyone can make the argument for LBJ to be the GOAT, when the dude's been only winning with another top 5-10 player on his squad. And imo he's never defeated the odds, once. Not to mention Jordan having more team and individual awards in 15 yeas than LBJ has in 18... Everything points to Jordan easily being the better basketball player. This narrative that LBJ is the GOAT is one of the silliest, ever. How can you be better than someone when you don't have 70 of his accomplishments in a longer, softer career where you've been manipulating an entire league(players, trades, etc) in order for you to win...

I don’t like LeBron at all but are we just going to ignore MJ playing next to Pippen throughout his entire championship runs?

You need high talent around you in this league to win a title.

You have some good points. But chemistry, is high on the list.
MJ himself, didn't win his first Championship until his 7th year in the League.