Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread

[Captain_Caveman]

Smart's deficiencies on offense, such as bad decision making, can and will be lessened IF Boston can add/fix their bench by adding a scorer/shooter.

While I believe Smart will always pull a WTF shot per game, overall more shooters/scorers the less Smart will feel the need to turn into Klay Thompson.

An easier way to fix the team's deficiencies would be to stop having so many missed games from guys getting paid $30m a year.

[themoneyteam2]

Celtics with tatum can beat philly with no issues. Kemba on a min restriction as well. But to be an ELITE team we need 1 more big piece. It has to come via trade TPE. I like the teams potential once again. But we need 1 more game changing piece.

[MagicBagley18]

Celtics with tatum can beat philly with no issues. Kemba on a min restriction as well. But to be an ELITE team we need 1 more big piece. It has to come via trade TPE. I like the teams potential once again. But we need 1 more game changing piece.

I agree about needing one more piece. The problem is I think if we carry the tpe into the offseason or at least a large portion of it- that helps us make a big deal In the summer. The downside it means we don’t upgrade in season, it’s a bit of a catch 22

[CelticFaninLBC]

Smart, Thompson, Nesmith, R. Williams and pick(s) for Vucevic.

As usual, Danny Ainge has constructed an undersized roster.

[Kaykoose]

Getting Vucevic would make the Cs a contender, but why would the Magic want the Celtics trash? I am not convinced that's a realistic move unless the Celtics offer a lot of future picks or something.

Easiest way to improve is to fix the bench. Semi/Javonte/The Williams/Teague, etc wouldn't get any burn on any other good team. The fact that Pritchard is better than all of these guys is pretty telling. Ainge hasn't made any effort to fix the bench in years. Please trade for 2 veteran wings and 1 veteran big that can actually play.

[keevsnick1]

Celtics with tatum can beat philly with no issues. Kemba on a min restriction as well. But to be an ELITE team we need 1 more big piece. It has to come via trade TPE. I like the teams potential once again. But we need 1 more game changing piece.

I agree about needing one more piece. The problem is I think if we carry the tpe into the offseason or at least a large portion of it- that helps us make a big deal In the summer. The downside it means we don’t upgrade in season, it’s a bit of a catch 22

I really think they'll split it up. With Tatum's extension I doubt they just want to stack the full 28.5 million onto next years salary obligations. I think they'll use some amount this year (while staying below the tax) then reevaluate next offseason.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Getting Vucevic would make the Cs a contender, but why would the Magic want the Celtics trash? I am not convinced that's a realistic move unless the Celtics offer a lot of future picks or something.

Easiest way to improve is to fix the bench. Semi/Javonte/The Williams/Teague, etc wouldn't get any burn on any other good team. The fact that Pritchard is better than all of these guys is pretty telling. Ainge hasn't made any effort to fix the bench in years. Please trade for 2 veteran wings and 1 veteran big that can actually play.

Smart is not trash. Although might need a third team to take Smart and send assets to Orlando.

[MagicBagley18]

Celtics with tatum can beat philly with no issues. Kemba on a min restriction as well. But to be an ELITE team we need 1 more big piece. It has to come via trade TPE. I like the teams potential once again. But we need 1 more game changing piece.

I agree about needing one more piece. The problem is I think if we carry the tpe into the offseason or at least a large portion of it- that helps us make a big deal In the summer. The downside it means we don’t upgrade in season, it’s a bit of a catch 22

I really think they'll split it up. With Tatum's extension I doubt they just want to stack the full 28.5 million onto next years salary obligations. I think they'll use some amount this year (while staying below the tax) then reevaluate next offseason.

Yea most likely, it makes sense. I’m talking about using it along with kemba, picks, and others to get involved in a 3 team deal or something to bring a significant piece back to add to the jays like beal or someone of the ilk-

not necessarily trading beal into the tpe bc he won’t fit but using it to get trade chips to use in a multi team deal. It’s also why I wanna hold onto 1st rounders

[robdog_5]

Our calling card has been defense when we've overachieved the last 3 times we've gone deep in playoffs.

That needs to tighten down. When it does we will have a shot because our offensive stars have gotten so much better this year. Especially Jaylen.

I still think we need one more decent wing and I'm starting to get the feeling we need to pull thr plug on Teague and go get a pg.

This is the way I'd play this with the TPE if I could
#1 choice Gordon
#2 choice George Hill and PJ Tucker
#3 choice Barnes

Hill and Tucker are less money and you could probably absorb both with broken up TPE and I dont think either is gonna command a Haul.

[Celts17Pride]

Vucevic would be nice of course but the Celtics don’t need that high end of a center. Celtics just need a big man that can defend and grab rebounds

[robdog_5]

few other players I think could help this roster that could be had without breaking the bank or giving up too many assets

Delon Wright from Pistons
Josh Hart from Pelicans (although they may still want him because he is so cheap)
Lonzo Ball Pelicans (he's on last year of deal and is not playing well, feel like we could help him ala Evan Turner) again don't know if NO is gonna want to give up on him but he's been bad and they may not want to pay him.
Sterling Brown with Houston. I think they picked up him up to be a bench piece on a playoff team. Not sure they can get there and they may know that. recoup an 2nd round pick asset.
Paddy Mills-Again the Teague expirment is over. I'd take Mills to play a good role off teh bench.

[themoneyteam2]

I think he’ll use TPE in the offseason to find a near max player but there are smaller TPE’s they could use at the trade deadline and also just make trades without them to bolster the bench.

Don’t think there needs to be a huge deal but finding guys on the Shake Milton or Furkan Korkmaz production level off the bench to trade for would really help the team.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Blow it up!

[winsomme2]

Dynamic scoring wing. It seems patently obvious.

Williams, Ojeleye, and Green are getting WAY too many minutes.

We need to put more pressure on the opposing defense and it's just not currently possible. We have to work too hard to score for too much of the game.

[snowman]

I am not a "sky is falling , trade everyone" type, but guys, I am getting there.....almost.

Everyone not named Tatum, Brown, Kemba, Smart, Theis (which should be our starting five, they are most familiar with each others style of play as a unit) Pritchard, Langford, Nesmith, R. Williams and Fall (all still new enough to get more time, because they are either hurt, or do not have a huge negative because of size.) should be on notice.
If Danny doesn't use any of the TPE's during the season, then we could have 7 roster spots available in the off season. I would give these 7 guys a goal for the remainder of the season. Pass, you stay, fail, your gone.

That means:
Thompson: If he can't make those little turn arounds from 5 feet and in, he is useless except as a rebounder. So he better avg. at least 10 boards a game by seasons end. He's at 8.5 now. Doable, just not against Ebiid.
Teague: his lack of hustle after his bad turnover tonight (just watching the ball scoot away when no one was on him) was pathetic. You can bet your last dollar that Pritchard would have been on the floor after it. He's a FA at the end of this season, let him walk.
Edwards: If he can't shoot in the low 40% range from 3 he has to go. He's at 20%. Brings nothing else of value to the team.
Waters: Too small to defend anyone. Pritchard has made him almost expendable. He needs to shoot 35% from 3 and avg. 4 assists a game. Currently he's at 42%, but needs to get his assists up to be moved to a regular contract. Also, doable.
Semi: If after 4 years in the league, and the only thing on offence you have been asked to do it shoot spot up 3's, and you still can't do it consistently, you need to be moved on from. He's at 35% but that was a hot 3 game roll. He's had a chance to become that 3rd wing we all want him to be, just doesn't look like it's going to happen.
G. Williams : He started off as a very high BBIQ guy, but he must have bumped his head or something, because lately he has been playing terribly stupid. Bad passes, bad defense, missed assignments. As a 6'6 PF, if your not going to be stellar on defense, you bring nothing else to the team. His first name is Grant, not Draymond. Grant gets plenty of time, but is actually going in the wrong direction as far as improvement. As a "big" playing in the paint, and only shooting 36% on FT's, is really hurting the team.
D. Green: A shooting guard hitting at 11% from 3. Unless it's a dunk, green is useless on offense.

[BRUNiNHO91]

George Hill 9.5 Mil
Larry Nance 11 mil
Javale MCgee 4 mil
JJ Redick 13 mil
Valanciunas 15 mil
Robin Lopez 7 mil
Rudy Gay 14 mil
Patty Mills 13 mil
D.Rose 7 mil
Thad Young 14 mil
Bjelica 7 mil

There are so many veteran pieces that could be had for part of the TPE and a like 25-30 draft pick or even just salary swaps.. You got to pull the trigger on some of these man.

PJ Tucker is going for 2 second rounders.. Are we really thinking PJ wouldn't have helped keep Tobias Harris from shooting like 90% today?

I guarantee you a few of the names on this list will be traded and contributing on a contender while we are stuck with Grant Williams and Tremont Waters.

[aporel18]

4 team trade to get some length, depth and shooting (It'd probably make more sense as 2 separate trades, BOS-UTA and BOS-POR-SAC). Disclaimer- have to wait until Feb 18th and Feb 20th to get a deal done.

BOS sends Theis and Semi Ojeleye to UTA, Carsen Edwards to POR, Javonte Green and 2021 FRP to SAC
BOS gets Derrick Favors and 2026 SRP from UTA, Harry Giles from POR, Nemanja Bjelica from SAC

UTA sends Derrick Favors and 2026 SRP to BOS
UTA gets Theis and Semi Ojeleye from BOS

POR sends Harry Giles to BOS, Anfernee Simmons and 2022 SRP to SAC
POR gets Carsen Edwards from BOS

SAC sends Nemanja Bjelica to BOS
SAC gets Javonte Green and 2021 FRP from BOS, Anfernee Simmons and 2022 SRP from SAC


Why for BOS: first of all, get Bjelica as the 4th starter who can score and be a playmaker. Then, upgrading in terms of length from Theis to Favors, who cannot shoot the 3, but is a better rebounder and rim protector and can be a starter alongside Kemba/Brown/Tatum/Bjelica, as Tristan/Timelord come to play center off the bench. Also, get Giles as a reclamation project/Tatum's buddy. About roster flexibility, you avoid Theis payday (and maybe even Semi's), while taking on 3 years of a mid-size contract in Favors, who, alongside Timelord's development, could make TT expendable, or you could even combine both Favors and Tristan to get a 20M player next season.

Why for UTA: they're 2.5M over the tax (per Spotrac), this way they get under the tax line while getting quality depth in Theis/Ojeleye, the SRP is well worth it.

Why for POR: they are 0.6M (per Spotrac) under the tax, and they have 14 players on their roster and a two-way. So if they want to get a vet min player, the money might not work. So, getting rid of Giles and Simmons and taking on Edwards they get the cap room to sign 2 vet min players. Of course they could find other ways, but giving up a SRP isn't the end of the world.

Why for SAC: Bjelica may be too good for tanking, but in fact he's getting 15 minutes per game, and if you can get a first and a second for an expiring contract, while taking on Anfernee Simmons and immediately waive Javonte Green (sorry for the kid), you should do it.


After the trades, Danny should call Isaiah Thomas and sign him for the vet min, so the Celtics would have available

guards (6) Kemba,Smart,Teague, PP, IT, Waters
wings (6) Brown,Tatum,Bjelica,Grant, Romeo, Nesmith
bigs (5) Favors/TT/Timelord/Giles/Tacko

Better depth, more length and no need for that 2021 first round pick when you have so many kids on the roster.

POR is not paying that for Carson Edwards

Thanks for your insight.

They wouldn't be paying for Carsen Edwards, but for the chance to acquire veteran help at the deadline without entering tax territory. Of course they could find another deal, but they can't sign a vet min guy as is.

[flintsky21]

It's so frustrating even non-contenders were able to make better moves to upgrade their wings compared to Boston in the offseason. Pistons signed Ellington for the minimum and he's currently averaging 11 ppg on 48% from three. Kings got Glenn Robinson for the minimum (currently shooting 45% from 3). Even someone like Sterling Brown would be an upgrade over what we have now. Those guys could've definitely been had if DA made a move. Now Rockets got Kevin Porter for basically nothing. He's a headcase but he's being sold low for the potential that he brings.

[RickyDizzle]

Main issue to fix is depth at the wings. Number two is a quality big, we have depth for bigs but not enough top line talent. Lineups are tough when theres not much talent separation between options at the same position. Theis, thompson, RW, GW, Semi are sort of all in the same tier of weak 5th starter to solid 7th man to 9th man.

Kind of abritrary but in my mind Brown, Tatum, and Kemba are a totally reasonable 3 best players for a contender. Smart should probably by a great 6th man on a contender and is our 4th best player. Thompson, Pritchard, Theis, and Timelord are all fine as like the 7th or 8th best rotation piece on a championship squad and for us they're 5 through 9. Semi is fine as a 9th or 10th man, which he generally is.. Grant, Edwards, Waters, Green, Nesmith, Tacko and Teague are all end of the bench guys that should be injury replacements and garbage time, but are in bigger roles. We have too many end of the bench players. And too many middle of the bench guys.

Pritchard emerging helped to bump everyone doen a peg. I hope hes okay. We either need Romeo or Nesmith to turn into a positive player for 20 minutes a game or make a trade.

[La Flame]

Seems like Collins is unhappy in Atlanta with how Trae is running the offense and ATL might not want to pay him.
Wonder if they'd accept Smart/Grant/2 firsts for Collins/Snell(filler) and maybe we take Rondo into TPE as an extra favor?