The (Where Ainges Fear to) Trade Thread, 2016-17 (1.0)

ddb · Post #1561 » by **ddb** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:35 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I can't think of two players more dissimilar than Klay Thompson and James Harden.

exactly. Klay is very, very good. But he is more Ray Allen then Paul Pierce, if that makes sense.

ddb · Post #1562 » by **ddb** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:39 pm

aim2please wrote:Yeah, lets make a trade to make the best team in the league even better by solving their only problems (rim protection, depth). Fantastic.

hey man, you can't think about that when building a team. For Ainge his job is to build the best possible team and to win championships. you don't NOT acquire a Klay Thompson caliber player because you're afraid the trade might make the Warriors better and/or more balanced. first of all, they still need to come out of the west..

anyway, very, very small likelihood of a deal involving Klay during the season

London2Boston · Post #1563 » by **London2Boston** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:51 pm

Neither would happen, but would the forum prefer Cousins or Klay..just for the sake of Conversation...

rickrolled · Post #1564 » by **rickrolled** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:51 pm

Scal farted this rumour out of his ass. Nothing to see here.

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #1565 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:27 pm

Sean Devenney from the Sporting News is reporting that if the Kings fail miserably over these next few weeks (5 game homestand), they could be looking to trade DMC by early to mid-December. Now, with that being said, Chris Mannix was on during the pregame show the other night stating that the front office was split on whether or not they wanted Cousins. Should be interesting to see how things unfold in Sacramento. They're still a mess, despite having a new coach. The fact that they want to wait for Darren Collison to return is also pretty funny.

reload141 · Post #1566 » by **reload141** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:34 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Sean Devenney from the Sporting News is reporting that if the Kings fail miserably over these next few weeks (5 game homestand), they could be looking to trade DMC by early to mid-December. Now, with that being said, Chris Mannix was on during the pregame show the other night stating that the front office was split on whether or not they wanted Cousins. Should be interesting to see how things unfold in Sacramento. They're still a mess, despite having a new coach. The fact that they want to wait for Darren Collison to return is also pretty funny.

Well for the last two seasons they've been adamant not to trade him.... if now they are 50/50 and the FO is starting to have different opinions then I imagine it will unravel pretty fast...I still think they will wait until the offseason though

pasfru · Post #1567 » by **pasfru** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:52 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Sean Devenney from the Sporting News is reporting that if the Kings fail miserably over these next few weeks (5 game homestand), they could be looking to trade DMC by early to mid-December. Now, with that being said, Chris Mannix was on during the pregame show the other night stating that the front office was split on whether or not they wanted Cousins. Should be interesting to see how things unfold in Sacramento. They're still a mess, despite having a new coach. The fact that they want to wait for Darren Collison to return is also pretty funny.

The guy's super talented, no doubt about it, but I don't know if he's the transcendental star player that guys like LeBron James and Stephen Curry are, and guys like Karl-Anthony Towns and Anthony Davis will be. He's just a very talented big man who will demand the same assets as a KAT or AD when he's not as valuable as either of those two players.

If he could get over his mental issues, he might become that kind of player. The guy who can get you a championship with a talented supporting cast that we'd most certainly have.

But if he doesn't? The package we'd have to send Sacramento's way would probably hurt our future, as well as that we'd end up with a prima donna locker room cancer who'd be damaging our team chemistry.

Oh, for ****'s sake, I don't care anymore. Here we are back talking about Boogie. **** kill me.

ConstableGeneva · Post #1568 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:58 pm

Sean Deveney was also the one who said Blake Griffin was 87% headed to Boston before the season started so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

Fencer reregistered · Post #1569 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:15 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Sean Devenney from the Sporting News is reporting that if the Kings fail miserably over these next few weeks (5 game homestand), they could be looking to trade DMC by early to mid-December.

What is the basis for using the word "reporting" rather than "speculating"?

Fencer reregistered · Post #1570 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:19 pm

ddb wrote:
reload141 wrote:I wonder if we will see Crowder or Bradleys Names in rumours closer to the deadline.... I imagine if one or both are moved then the Celtics must think they are a legit chance at Gordon Hayward in the offseason... just interesting to see

Hayward to Boston has legs. It's almost common knowledge in the hoops circles to be honest with you. However, Utah has a good team and could absolutely make the playoffs, make some noise even and do everything they can to retain Hayward.

Is Hayward actually an upgrade over Bradley?

Or is it just that if we trade Bradley for good value and then sign Hayward for free we're better off?

pasfru · Post #1571 » by **pasfru** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:22 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:
ddb wrote:
reload141 wrote:I wonder if we will see Crowder or Bradleys Names in rumours closer to the deadline.... I imagine if one or both are moved then the Celtics must think they are a legit chance at Gordon Hayward in the offseason... just interesting to see

Hayward to Boston has legs. It's almost common knowledge in the hoops circles to be honest with you. However, Utah has a good team and could absolutely make the playoffs, make some noise even and do everything they can to retain Hayward.

Is Hayward actually an upgrade over Bradley?

Or is it just that if we trade Bradley for good value and then sign Hayward for free we're better off?

Yes.

Celts17Pride · Post #1572 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:45 am

Grass is always greener

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #1573 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:44 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Sean Devenney from the Sporting News is reporting that if the Kings fail miserably over these next few weeks (5 game homestand), they could be looking to trade DMC by early to mid-December.

What is the basis for using the word "reporting" rather than "speculating"?

He's reporting on speculation amongst anonymous NBA execs. How's that for you? Does that fit you a little better?

Zaschrona · Post #1574 » by **Zaschrona** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:03 am

Andrew Bogut. Please.

Or at least Richaun Holmes. Kris Humphries. Tarik Black. Or Jason Thompson. Whoever can help this team to rebound. Please.

Fencer reregistered · Post #1575 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:15 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Sean Devenney from the Sporting News is reporting that if the Kings fail miserably over these next few weeks (5 game homestand), they could be looking to trade DMC by early to mid-December.

What is the basis for using the word "reporting" rather than "speculating"?

He's reporting on speculation amongst anonymous NBA execs. How's that for you? Does that fit you a little better?

It has the virtue of being true.

Zaschrona · Post #1576 » by **Zaschrona** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:29 am

Hassan Whiteside is a stud. If Miami ever makes him available this season, we have to try to find a way to get him. Would be perfect on this team.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1577 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:51 am

Just catching up on this Klay rumor. Think he's overrated, and like Jimmy Butler, not worth the price. Avery, Jae and a BKN 1st? My ass.

Hayward's good but Utah probably doesn't trade him. If we're keeping cap space open, sign him in the summer.

Cousins could happen, but we won't like the price.

I'm feeling really conservative- wait a few weeks and see if Brooklyn runs out of momentum, add Noel (for that LAC 1st that's going to become two 2nds?), see what develops.

Hope we don't do an overpay for Faried- I could see Ainge trading Rozier, Young, Olynyk, Amir and spouting some bull about how you have to give up good players to get good players, and these guys don't have that much value around the league, because he's called and asked, and Faried is a very good, very competitive player.

BakersDozen · Post #1578 » by **BakersDozen** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:33 am

FWIW i had a dream that we traded IT to the nets that felt so real i had to check twitter to see if its real. Thank God it wasnt ha.

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GrandTheftRondo · Post #1579 » by **GrandTheftRondo** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:42 am

Fruit Pastilles wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Sean Devenney from the Sporting News is reporting that if the Kings fail miserably over these next few weeks (5 game homestand), they could be looking to trade DMC by early to mid-December. Now, with that being said, Chris Mannix was on during the pregame show the other night stating that the front office was split on whether or not they wanted Cousins. Should be interesting to see how things unfold in Sacramento. They're still a mess, despite having a new coach. The fact that they want to wait for Darren Collison to return is also pretty funny.

The guy's super talented, no doubt about it, but I don't know if he's the transcendental star player that guys like LeBron James and Stephen Curry are, and guys like Karl-Anthony Towns and Anthony Davis will be. He's just a very talented big man who will demand the same assets as a KAT or AD when he's not as valuable as either of those two players.

If he could get over his mental issues, he might become that kind of player. The guy who can get you a championship with a talented supporting cast that we'd most certainly have.

But if he doesn't? The package we'd have to send Sacramento's way would probably hurt our future, as well as that we'd end up with a prima donna locker room cancer who'd be damaging our team chemistry.

Oh, for ****'s sake, I don't care anymore. Here we are back talking about Boogie. **** kill me.

I like Cousins and he's probably the only center since Shaq that I've watched and at times thought is unstoppable. Problem is, he doesn't bring that every night and he seriously cannot handle any sort of adversity. Constantly getting baited into making silly fouls and getting into foul trouble, and teams play him very physical and he constantly sooks about it.

Trading for him would be too much of a risk in my opinion. Trading away years of hard work for a guy who has gone through multiple coaches, bitches about a ton of **** and isn't amazing defensively. If we get him, I'm not even sure if he's good enough to be making us a top tier team.

Davis would be the guy who can do that, Boogie I just don't think is, even minus the attitude.

Green89 · Post #1580 » by **Green89** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:01 pm

Fruit Pastilles wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:
ddb wrote:
Hayward to Boston has legs. It's almost common knowledge in the hoops circles to be honest with you. However, Utah has a good team and could absolutely make the playoffs, make some noise even and do everything they can to retain Hayward.

Is Hayward actually an upgrade over Bradley?

Or is it just that if we trade Bradley for good value and then sign Hayward for free we're better off?

Yes.

IDK, do we really watch Hayward very closely, or just look at his padded numbers on an offensively challenged Utah team? I watched some of the game last night and saw Hayward getting blown by defensively, and he had a bad shooting night (4/14) and Joe Ingles ended up being their high scorer and they lost. Not sure he moves the needle much more than Bradley already does.