Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24

Larry_Russell · Post #1561 » by **Larry_Russell** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:48 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:

Read on Twitter

Nothing gonna stop this train.

Sigh...still hurts to get run the **** over though....

La Flame · Post #1562 » by **La Flame** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:49 pm

playa-hater wrote:
La Flame wrote:People seriously believe Dame/Butler/Bam and a bunch of leftover scraps is a championship team?? I really hope he ends up there. That team is not making it out of the 2nd round

Wouldn't eight undrafted players technically be scraps .. we did just lose to them so..

We lost more than they won.

This was one of the most pathetic series' ive seen since Kyrie quit on the bucks

playa-hater · Post #1563 » by **playa-hater** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:51 pm

La Flame wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
La Flame wrote:People seriously believe Dame/Butler/Bam and a bunch of leftover scraps is a championship team?? I really hope he ends up there. That team is not making it out of the 2nd round

Wouldn't eight undrafted players technically be scraps .. we did just lose to them so..

We lost more than they won.

This was one of the most pathetic series' ive seen since Kyrie quit on the bucks

Yes and yes

La Flame · Post #1564 » by **La Flame** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:51 pm

RickyDizzle wrote:
La Flame wrote:People seriously believe Dame/Butler/Bam and a bunch of leftover scraps is a championship team?? I really hope he ends up there. That team is not making it out of the 2nd round

Those 3 and scraps are better than the team that just beat us and went to the finals, isn't it?

Says a whole lot more about this team than theirs.

zoyathedestroya · Post #1565 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:12 pm

Read on Twitter

Is it gonna shift South or NorthWest?

Green89 · Post #1566 » by **Green89** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:13 pm

Silver needs to step in and block any Dame to Miami trade that is lopsided. Kind of like what Stern did with CP3, and what he should of done when Pau Gasol was dealt to the Lakers.

captain green · Post #1567 » by **captain green** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:18 pm

Lol only in a Celtics forum can you find people that would want young and og over brown or don't want to pay him 60 mill gets Mr Boston but will gladly take dame who dissed Boston and will make 60 mil at age 36 lol it's ok cause I believe brad understands value

31to6 · Post #1568 » by **31to6** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:24 pm

Brogdon, Rob, Pritchard for Siakam and a 1st

White/Brown/Tatum/Siakam/Porzingis
Banton or other Hauser Oshea Al

Then everyone can get even more excited about filling out the bench while missing the point that those starters would absolutely destroy

Trade Jaylen for two or three quarters at that point, idc

ajones9219 · Post #1569 » by **ajones9219** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:27 pm

Green89 wrote:Silver needs to step in and block any Dame to Miami trade that is lopsided. Kind of like what Stern did with CP3, and what he should of done when Pau Gasol was dealt to the Lakers.

I don't believe the commish can block trades. The only reason CP3 was blocked was due to the team not having an owner at the time. As a result, the team was owned by the league and Stern was acting as the team owner.

zoyathedestroya · Post #1570 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:42 pm

Read on Twitter

CelticsPride18 · Post #1571 » by **CelticsPride18** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:45 pm

He’s not getting the full supermax. 5/260

zoyathedestroya · Post #1572 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:46 pm

By all indications, the Celtics are offering Brown the full five-year max, but there are various incentives that are likely under discussion. This past season, for example, Brown earned an extra $2 million for playing in 65 games and appearing in the All-Star Game.

There could be some discussion over incentives included in this extension that are unlikely to be obtained, such as a bonus for being named league MVP.

But according to one former NBA general manager, it’s unlikely that the sides are haggling over those details at this point. The former executive said that the holdup is most likely over a fifth-year player option and/or a potential no-trade clause.

Interesting:

Brown has made it clear over the years that he views himself as Tatum’s equal rather than his sidekick, and it would be understandable for his camp to push for the player option that Tatum received.

ajones9219 · Post #1573 » by **ajones9219** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:47 pm

CelticsPride18 wrote:He’s not getting the full supermax. 5/260

Disagree. That would make him an absolute steal. I think we will end up ponying up the full 295

ajones9219 · Post #1574 » by **ajones9219** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:48 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
By all indications, the Celtics are offering Brown the full five-year max, but there are various incentives that are likely under discussion. This past season, for example, Brown earned an extra $2 million for playing in 65 games and appearing in the All-Star Game.

There could be some discussion over incentives included in this extension that are unlikely to be obtained, such as a bonus for being named league MVP.

But according to one former NBA general manager, it’s unlikely that the sides are haggling over those details at this point. The former executive said that the holdup is most likely over a fifth-year player option and/or a potential no-trade clause.

Interesting:
Brown has made it clear over the years that he views himself as Tatum’s equal rather than his sidekick, and it would be understandable for his camp to push for the player option that Tatum received.

lol tired of being floated in trades I guess. I'd love to see it just to watch half this board melt down.

zoyathedestroya · Post #1575 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:49 pm

Weird that they're bringing up a no-trade clause when a player needs at least 8 years of NBA experience to qualify. JB has 7 years.

ajones9219 · Post #1576 » by **ajones9219** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:51 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Weird that they're bringing up a no-trade clause when a player needs at least 8 years of NBA experience to qualify. JB has 7 years.

Apparently that GM doesn't have a Zarren to explain the rules

CelticsPride18 · Post #1577 » by **CelticsPride18** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:51 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Weird that they're bringing up a no-trade clause when a player needs at least 8 years of NBA experience to qualify. JB has 7 years.

It’s probably the incentives and player option

lon3lytoaster · Post #1578 » by **lon3lytoaster** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:52 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
By all indications, the Celtics are offering Brown the full five-year max, but there are various incentives that are likely under discussion. This past season, for example, Brown earned an extra $2 million for playing in 65 games and appearing in the All-Star Game.

There could be some discussion over incentives included in this extension that are unlikely to be obtained, such as a bonus for being named league MVP.

But according to one former NBA general manager, it’s unlikely that the sides are haggling over those details at this point. The former executive said that the holdup is most likely over a fifth-year player option and/or a potential no-trade clause.

Interesting:
Brown has made it clear over the years that he views himself as Tatum’s equal rather than his sidekick, and it would be understandable for his camp to push for the player option that Tatum received.

Ugh I really don’t want Jaylen back. You’re not Tatum, buddy.

ddb · Post #1579 » by **ddb** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:53 pm

Hal14 wrote:
celticgreenie wrote:Just interesting how Herro can net a first round pick, but so can Alex Caruso.

Philly traded a 1st round pick for de'anthony melton last year and Dallas traded a 1st round pick for Christian Wood..

Need to factor in contracts. Caruso is a solid rotation piece that can play a role on a winner who also happens to be on a good contract. Equals a 1st rd pick.

Herro is the better overall player with a much higher upside, but also has a bigger/longer contract. So, he's more difficult to add into the foundation of a given team. Equals a 1st rd pick, plus a lot of filler.

cloverleaf · Post #1580 » by **cloverleaf** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:53 pm

lon3lytoaster wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
By all indications, the Celtics are offering Brown the full five-year max, but there are various incentives that are likely under discussion. This past season, for example, Brown earned an extra $2 million for playing in 65 games and appearing in the All-Star Game.

There could be some discussion over incentives included in this extension that are unlikely to be obtained, such as a bonus for being named league MVP.

But according to one former NBA general manager, it’s unlikely that the sides are haggling over those details at this point. The former executive said that the holdup is most likely over a fifth-year player option and/or a potential no-trade clause.

Interesting:
Brown has made it clear over the years that he views himself as Tatum’s equal rather than his sidekick, and it would be understandable for his camp to push for the player option that Tatum received.

Ugh I really don’t want Jaylen back. You’re not Tatum, buddy.

I hear ya!