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All things Draft Pick. #3

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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1581 » by GoCeltics123 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:02 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
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CrowderKeg wrote:Bulpett wet blanket out...

Read on Twitter
So no doubt the Celtics are searching the NBA galaxy for a deal — and that’s in addition to the efforts they’ll be making in free agency in a couple of weeks. In the trade department, Jimmy Butler is still an attractive name, but with Paul George letting the Pacers know he’ll opt out next summer and leave, most likely for the Lakers, the C’s might want to take a stronger flyer on bringing him to Boston with the hope that a year in the system can make him want to stay.


Not a total wet blanket


Kinda moist tho.

Saying that the Celtics might want to trade for George as a flyer over Butler is kinda interesting IMO
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1582 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:03 am

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CelticFaninLBC wrote:
OFWGKTA wrote:If we keep Crowder

IT/Smart
Hayward/Brown
George/Brown
Crowder/Vet FA
Horford/Zizic

That's a crazy group of switchable defenders to throw at GSW and Cleveland


How do they all fit within the cap?

It fits. Non-tax, over-the-cap team.

Vet wings I'd target: PJ Tucker, Sefolosha, CJ Miles. James Johnson would be good for our team too.
Not sure who we can get as rebounding big for the cheap.


They can basically go over the cap via trade?
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1583 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:06 am

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CelticFaninLBC wrote:
How do they all fit within the cap?

It fits. Non-tax, over-the-cap team.

Vet wings I'd target: PJ Tucker, Sefolosha, CJ Miles. James Johnson would be good for our team too.
Not sure who we can get as rebounding big for the cheap.


We would get absolutely annihilated by the tax the year after this one, though.


You think I bought 8 $11 12 oz beers at the lakers game to hear wyc complain about the tax?
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1584 » by winsomme2 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:07 am

Anybody starting to realize that we are not gong to get either Butler or George and are gonna end up with Tatum or Jackson who are deeply flawed and don't have NBA ready games?

Tatum has limited burst which will make it hard for him to operate in the half court and ever get by his defender and Jackson can't shoot which will make it hard for him to score in the pick and roll and teams will sag off him limiting the impact of his explosiveness and passing.

This has been such a thoroughly disappointing weekend. This was the draft to stop punting!
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1585 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:08 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
How do they all fit within the cap?

It fits. Non-tax, over-the-cap team.

Vet wings I'd target: PJ Tucker, Sefolosha, CJ Miles. James Johnson would be good for our team too.
Not sure who we can get as rebounding big for the cheap.


We would get absolutely annihilated by the tax the year after this one, though.

That is true. Building a super team is hard and expensive. That's why to some extent, I understand those who support youth movement. We could still go hybrid and hope #3/BKN 18/Brown take enough of a leap towards the end of IT and Horford's contract.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1586 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:09 am

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The Corey's wrote:Bulpett always and I mean always says it's coming. Just not now. It's coming being patient.

Dude has never broken a story and isn't anything more than may be a mouthpiece.

I actually hate the guy due to his many useless appearances on sports tonight


You might be thinking of Dan Shaughnessy...I've gotten them mixed up for 30 years.


Naw. Bulpett is the bald one and Dan is the curly red headed ****.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1587 » by Afam » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:09 am

I don't even know what direction the celtics are trying to go anymore. Are they rebuilding or are they trying to contend. Before, and during 2013, i knew the celtics were in the rebuilding phase. Their stars were getting older and passed their primes and had to be traded. The picks that was acquired in the trade are not even being used to acquire established players. I thought that was the plan in the first place. An accerlerated rebuild.

It is like the team is directionless right now. Trying to decide should rebuild or build a championship team. It is like they are conflicted. It is a little bit concerning.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1588 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:11 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
How do they all fit within the cap?

It fits. Non-tax, over-the-cap team.

Vet wings I'd target: PJ Tucker, Sefolosha, CJ Miles. James Johnson would be good for our team too.
Not sure who we can get as rebounding big for the cheap.


They can basically go over the cap via trade?

Using OFWGKTA's roster, I think it's a pre-FA-signing trade.

Trade #3, Rozier, Bradley, Zeller for George on/before draft night.
Waive/renounce the FAs, non-guaranteeds.
That's enough to open up max space for Hayward.

EDIT: Hmmmm... sorry, doesn't seem right. Might not be enough for a max.

I did lay out a way to sign Hayward first then trade for PG later. Posted it earlier.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1589 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:12 am

winsomme2 wrote:Anybody starting to realize that we are not gong to get either Butler or George and are gonna end up with Tatum or Jackson who are deeply flawed and don't have NBA ready games?

Tatum has limited burst which will make it hard for him to operate in the half court and ever get by his defender and Jackson can't shoot which will make it hard for him to score in the pick and roll and teams will sag off him limiting the impact of his explosiveness and passing.

This has been such a thoroughly disappointing weekend. This was the draft to stop punting!


Fultz is a bust according most
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1590 » by Afam » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:17 am

I'm ok with either direction. Be it rebuilding or contending. Celtics should just pick a direction and go with it. Commit to it.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1591 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:18 am

CrowderKeg wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:It fits. Non-tax, over-the-cap team.

Vet wings I'd target: PJ Tucker, Sefolosha, CJ Miles. James Johnson would be good for our team too.
Not sure who we can get as rebounding big for the cheap.


They can basically go over the cap via trade?

Using OFWGKTA's roster, I think it's a pre-FA-signing trade.

Trade #3, Rozier, Bradley, Zeller for George on/before draft night.
Waive/renounce the FAs, non-guaranteeds.
That's enough to open up max space for Hayward.

EDIT: Hmmmm... sorry, doesn't seem right. Might not be enough for a max.

I did lay out a way to sign Hayward first then trade for PG later. Posted it earlier.


Ah. Can they trade Brown instead of #3 and still have cap room?
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1592 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:22 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
They can basically go over the cap via trade?

Using OFWGKTA's roster, I think it's a pre-FA-signing trade.

Trade #3, Rozier, Bradley, Zeller for George on/before draft night.
Waive/renounce the FAs, non-guaranteeds.
That's enough to open up max space for Hayward.

EDIT: Hmmmm... sorry, doesn't seem right. Might not be enough for a max.

I did lay out a way to sign Hayward first then trade for PG later. Posted it earlier.


I got 75.5 million with cap holds.

Yep. Has to be:
1. Open up max space for Hayward.
2. Sign Hayward. Sign #3.
3. Trade for PG 30 days after #3 is signed.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1593 » by The Corey's » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:24 am

Hayward is a celtic. Im convinced of it
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1594 » by Jakeopp » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:25 am

winsomme2 wrote:Anybody starting to realize that we are not gong to get either Butler or George and are gonna end up with Tatum or Jackson who are deeply flawed and don't have NBA ready games?

Tatum has limited burst which will make it hard for him to operate in the half court and ever get by his defender and Jackson can't shoot which will make it hard for him to score in the pick and roll and teams will sag off him limiting the impact of his explosiveness and passing.

This has been such a thoroughly disappointing weekend. This was the draft to stop punting!

That wraps it up, the #3 and #4 prospects have no chance to succeed :lol:
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1595 » by reload141 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:25 am

THEN in AD's 2nd last contract year before his player option we trade Horford + our established young talent for AD!!

RINGS ALL AROUND!
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1596 » by MaxwellSmart » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:27 am

My Conspiracy Theory....Bird left Indiana, knowing that Ainge was gonna be able to make the trade for George at this time...He didn't want it to look like another McHale/KG trade to help out old pal Danny.

We're getting both PG and Hayward.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1597 » by rob4748 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:27 am

I think the most interesting piece of this article was his comment on the Philly trade. "There has to be more to this trade with Philly."
Maybe we haven't gotten all the info surrounding the parameters of the deal?
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1598 » by KamikazeK » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:28 am

ViperGTS wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:Cavs gonna destroy their entire future for a one-year shot at toppling the Warriors. Lebron and PG both leave for LA next offseason after they lose. Cleveland left with Kyrie and not much else.


Wanna talk about destroying an entire future?

Heard Ian Thompson say tonight that NO needs to know AD and Danny has the assets to trade for him. Then he said Danny needs to tell them all the time. Herschel Walker.

Then he says what we all know, it was a 5 for 1 trade that.....started the Cowboys dynasty.

What a horrible idea. Pretty sure the Cowboys got the best end of that deal and in this scenario NO would be the Cowboys.

Which team would most want to be? I know where I stand.

This is ridiculous. The NBA is not the NFL. Can we stop this crap?
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1599 » by Afam » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:28 am

Makes trading trading the Number one pick questionable if they strikeout
in free agency. Im ok with sixers trade only if it brings in an established player.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#1600 » by winsomme2 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:28 am

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winsomme2 wrote:Anybody starting to realize that we are not gong to get either Butler or George and are gonna end up with Tatum or Jackson who are deeply flawed and don't have NBA ready games?

Tatum has limited burst which will make it hard for him to operate in the half court and ever get by his defender and Jackson can't shoot which will make it hard for him to score in the pick and roll and teams will sag off him limiting the impact of his explosiveness and passing.

This has been such a thoroughly disappointing weekend. This was the draft to stop punting!


Fultz is a bust according most


Which most?

Only people I hear calling him a bust are people here who are more hoping he's a bust at this point because we're no longer getting him.

Very small chance he's a bust but he has a huge upside. His game is perfect for NBA offenses.

I love the reports now that say that he didn't look explosive in his workouts. So Danny has been scouting these guys since they were 15 but now he makes a snap judgement cuz of poor workout??

This whole process was so stupid. Danny clearly got wind of the George stuff and rolled the dice and it's not looking good right now.

My guess is he actually likes Fultz but got greedy

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