TSmith0197 wrote:cl2117 wrote:TSmith0197 wrote:I’m not one of those fans that thinks their guy is the best guy so to me Mac Jones ceiling is Matt Ryan at best. The other four taken ahead of him have ceilings that are above Matt Ryan IMO.
Matt Ryan won an MVP. That'll do.
Look back at the last decade and there are a lot more Mac/Jones/Matt Ryan esque signal callers in the Superbowl. I know the league is moving towards these superstar dual threats at QB, but you can still get it done with a pocket passer if they get the ball out quick and don't turn it over.
Hard to argue that those other guys don't have a better ceiling than Mac. Lance/Fields are more athletica dual threats, Lawrence is as blue chip as it gets, they all look like better prospects on paper. Mac definitely looks like he can hold his own though.
Don’t get me wrong there nothing wrong with Matt Ryan he nearly won a SB if it wasn’t so for some bad play calling. I see people over at patsfans.com forum comparing this kid to TB12 which is unfair to Mac. I don’t think Mac will ever come close to that and when he doesn’t those same fans might turn on him which again is unfair.
Back in the day (generally) nobody thought Tom Brady would ever come close to being a GOAT. Even after winning the Super Bowl, he was considered a game manager who rode the coattails of a good defense coupled with conservative play calling.
But Tom was always a competent game manager and leader with great intangibles. I haven't watched enough of Mac to have a strong opinion just yet, but he looks decent so far and I'm sure that Nick Saban gave a good word.
Matt Ryan is maybe Drew Bledsoe caliber IMO, good high upside QB...who tends to step on his own foot once or twice a game. Just good enough to be a star (Ryan made MVP but also had good help from his receivers) and make a Super Bowl or two, but how many rings do those guys have? Hopefully Mac is above that, because that's not an ideal long term solution.