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Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2019-2020, Part 3 – "Playoff Version"

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Re: Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2019-2020, Part 3 – "Playoff Version" 

Post#1581 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Oct 1, 2020 7:14 am

Ben-N1ce wrote:I see Bam and think about if we didn't lose Baynes and had a real defensive big :(


Baynes was fantastic this year and he's due for a big paycheck this offseason(big for his standards). He would've done better than Daniel, cause he's taller and still elite defensively. Moral of the story is, we need a big man, a capable one, not a superstar, just capable.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1582 » by MrGreenRunsDeep » Thu Oct 1, 2020 8:10 am

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Ben-N1ce wrote:I see Bam and think about if we didn't lose Baynes and had a real defensive big :(


Baynes was fantastic this year and he's due for a big paycheck this offseason(big for his standards). He would've done better than Daniel, cause he's taller and still elite defensively. Moral of the story is, we need a big man, a capable one, not a superstar, just capable.


Baynes mins dropped in Suns, never liked Baynes. He had too many injury issue. Your moral is on point! We need a big man! Ainge will do something this year, I got this feeling...
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Post#1583 » by Parliament10 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 8:23 am

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FlatearthZorro wrote:
Ben-N1ce wrote:I see Bam and think about if we didn't lose Baynes and had a real defensive big :(


Baynes was fantastic this year and he's due for a big paycheck this offseason(big for his standards). He would've done better than Daniel, cause he's taller and still elite defensively. Moral of the story is, we need a big man, a capable one, not a superstar, just capable.


Baynes mins dropped in Suns, never liked Baynes. He had too many injury issue. Your moral is on point! We need a big man! Ainge will do something this year, I got this feeling...

Baynes had a few injury issues the last 2 seasons, but has been pretty reliable otherwise.
Plus he's like a tree, 260 lbs. And is shooting the 3 at a pretty good clip. My only concern is his age.
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Post#1584 » by itrsteve » Thu Oct 1, 2020 9:52 am

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Green89 wrote:Yah, Dragic won't be playing another minute of the sweep.

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Lal, man.... That's unfortunate... I mean Dragic was lightning us up the first 2 games, then Smart was able to limit him.

Watching Miami, it is kinda weird, they made so many unforced, bad passes, it's kinda puzzling. They looked like us against them in the games we lost. They missed open shots and made a bunch of bad passes..

Herro was 2 of 8 from 3.
Robinson who was making some tough ass shots off balance against us was 0 of 3...


I wonder if the gravity of the situation for those two rookies finally hit. Playing with house money in empty gyms is one thing, but the expectations of the finals and seeing an activated finals LBJ is enough to get into your head?
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Post#1585 » by Darthlukey » Thu Oct 1, 2020 10:02 am

itrsteve wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
Green89 wrote:Yah, Dragic won't be playing another minute of the sweep.

Read on Twitter


Lal, man.... That's unfortunate... I mean Dragic was lightning us up the first 2 games, then Smart was able to limit him.

Watching Miami, it is kinda weird, they made so many unforced, bad passes, it's kinda puzzling. They looked like us against them in the games we lost. They missed open shots and made a bunch of bad passes..

Herro was 2 of 8 from 3.
Robinson who was making some tough ass shots off balance against us was 0 of 3...


I wonder if the gravity of the situation for those two rookies finally hit. Playing with house money in empty gyms is one thing, but the expectations of the finals and seeing an activated finals LBJ is enough to get into your head?

Which 2 rookies? Nunn seemed to play ok
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Post#1586 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Oct 1, 2020 10:05 am

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itrsteve wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
Lal, man.... That's unfortunate... I mean Dragic was lightning us up the first 2 games, then Smart was able to limit him.

Watching Miami, it is kinda weird, they made so many unforced, bad passes, it's kinda puzzling. They looked like us against them in the games we lost. They missed open shots and made a bunch of bad passes..

Herro was 2 of 8 from 3.
Robinson who was making some tough ass shots off balance against us was 0 of 3...


I wonder if the gravity of the situation for those two rookies finally hit. Playing with house money in empty gyms is one thing, but the expectations of the finals and seeing an activated finals LBJ is enough to get into your head?

Which 2 rookies? Nunn seemed to play ok


Robinson and Herro. Both of them were making some fairly difficult shots againstus, they combined for 3 of 11 from 3 in game 1.
And btw, the Heat didn't seem to turn the ball over, but a bunch of bad passes, which could've resultde in TOs, but didn't. Just behind the man, or to the side, etc. They looked out of character.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1587 » by AgentGreen » Thu Oct 1, 2020 10:35 am

Bar Fight wrote:Let's just hope the Lakers don't repeat next year. This title was in the bag for them the second the Clippers got eliminated. And honestly, they'd have probably beaten the Clippers too.


Frickin Paul George cost the Clippers.. We got screwed the moment Hayward got injured again and everytime when Brad pulls Williams of the court.

Brad should be ashamed of himself. Bam got neutralised just by forcing him to make jumpers.. Williams and Kanter forced him to make hookshots and jumpers which resulted in a run for our offense most of the time. Sigh.. we crumbled and the Lakers wont.
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Post#1588 » by Triple7 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 11:18 am

itrsteve wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
Green89 wrote:Yah, Dragic won't be playing another minute of the sweep.

Read on Twitter


Lal, man.... That's unfortunate... I mean Dragic was lightning us up the first 2 games, then Smart was able to limit him.

Watching Miami, it is kinda weird, they made so many unforced, bad passes, it's kinda puzzling. They looked like us against them in the games we lost. They missed open shots and made a bunch of bad passes..

Herro was 2 of 8 from 3.
Robinson who was making some tough ass shots off balance against us was 0 of 3...


I wonder if the gravity of the situation for those two rookies finally hit. Playing with house money in empty gyms is one thing, but the expectations of the finals and seeing an activated finals LBJ is enough to get into your head?


Playing against seasoned vets like lebron and the rest of the lakers maybe got to them. Against us, they got more vets in butler, iggy and dragic. but the lakers are different animal in Lebron, AD, rondo and a bunch of seasoned vets. Plus the lakers have a very deep bench compared to us. Lebron and Rondo are like coaches as well. They don’t need their coach to be their leader unlike us.
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Post#1589 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Thu Oct 1, 2020 12:43 pm

Heat made a nice run but there is a reason why teams seeded 4-8 have won the championship twice in the last 74 years. (69 Celtics 4th seed, 95 rockets 5th seed) Heat as a 5th seed, especially in the east, have no chance of beating a first seed.

Kind of a amazing that anyone picked the heat for this series.
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Post#1590 » by VeryMuchWoke » Thu Oct 1, 2020 2:45 pm

I tried to tell y'all the heat were something like the 8th best team in the league. We just massively underperformed against them.
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Post#1591 » by VeryMuchWoke » Thu Oct 1, 2020 2:50 pm

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Being located in the north east in a cold weather city.....that’s it. lakers will always have Hollywood and warm weather- they were ran terribly for years and were rewarded with lebron James. if that doesn’t show u anything than I don’t know what will.

California weather + Hollywood means they will always be back and get stars....all they needed was 1 guy to put them back on the map, it was bron then ad followed and ad will get them someone else when brons done


If the league doesn't want 29 of the next 30 championships being won by LA, New York and Miami then the owners need to get rid of UFA entirely or at least get a "franchise tag" type of system.
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Post#1592 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 2:57 pm

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Being located in the north east in a cold weather city.....that’s it. lakers will always have Hollywood and warm weather- they were ran terribly for years and were rewarded with lebron James. if that doesn’t show u anything than I don’t know what will.

California weather + Hollywood means they will always be back and get stars....all they needed was 1 guy to put them back on the map, it was bron then ad followed and ad will get them someone else when brons done


If the league doesn't want 29 of the next 30 championships being won by LA, New York and Miami then the owners need to get rid of UFA entirely or at least get a "franchise tag" type of system.



La, NEW YORK, Miami......

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Post#1593 » by VeryMuchWoke » Thu Oct 1, 2020 3:01 pm

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MagicBagley18 wrote:
Being located in the north east in a cold weather city.....that’s it. lakers will always have Hollywood and warm weather- they were ran terribly for years and were rewarded with lebron James. if that doesn’t show u anything than I don’t know what will.

California weather + Hollywood means they will always be back and get stars....all they needed was 1 guy to put them back on the map, it was bron then ad followed and ad will get them someone else when brons done


If the league doesn't want 29 of the next 30 championships being won by LA, New York and Miami then the owners need to get rid of UFA entirely or at least get a "franchise tag" type of system.



La, NEW YORK, Miami......



New York may not be a warm weather city, but if the Knicks show a modicum of competence then they'll be a major FA destination. The Nets already proved that they are, though I don't expect Kyrie/KD to win championships together.
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Post#1594 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 3:06 pm

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MagicBagley18 wrote:
VeryMuchWoke wrote:
If the league doesn't want 29 of the next 30 championships being won by LA, New York and Miami then the owners need to get rid of UFA entirely or at least get a "franchise tag" type of system.



La, NEW YORK, Miami......



New York may not be a warm weather city, but if the Knicks show a modicum of competence then they'll be a major FA destination. The Nets already proved that they are, though I don't expect Kyrie/KD to win championships together.



Yea I was just having fun with you but we will see about New York...they have competent management now so it seems but Dolan will and is always the wild card. The league will always have, have’s and have not’s unfortunately- just the way it is.

Boston also I think as we move forward will be a destination....never ever ever like Miami or LA but we are 3/3 acquiring max high level players are last cracks at the bat. Could be much worse but the lakers will always be the lakers
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Post#1597 » by VeryMuchWoke » Thu Oct 1, 2020 4:45 pm

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Yea I was just having fun with you but we will see about New York...they have competent management now so it seems but Dolan will and is always the wild card. The league will always have, have’s and have not’s unfortunately- just the way it is.

Boston also I think as we move forward will be a destination....never ever ever like Miami or LA but we are 3/3 acquiring max high level players are last cracks at the bat. Could be much worse but the lakers will always be the lakers


To some extent, sure, it would be impossible to remove all advantages completely, but the "player empowerment era" has made the league a joke. Team-building and shrewd decision making is 10% of winning a championship and wooing egomaniacal superstars like LeBron and KD is 90%. The league needs to restrict player movement so players have less control over where they play, especially for franchise talents.

With the **** that players have pulled over the last 10 years (Heatles, KD to GSW, AD forcing his way to LAL) I think getting rid of UFA is justified. The most freedom they deserve is RFA, but since the problem is superstars teaming up instead of competing with each other you could just give each team a designated franchise player. The franchise player would get an extra $10M a year over the max, or even more, but they never get to be UFA.

Or the league can do nothing and let the ratings slide continue. With Silver, I don't think anything happens. Dude is milquetoast.
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Post#1598 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Oct 1, 2020 4:52 pm

VeryMuchWoke wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Yea I was just having fun with you but we will see about New York...they have competent management now so it seems but Dolan will and is always the wild card. The league will always have, have’s and have not’s unfortunately- just the way it is.

Boston also I think as we move forward will be a destination....never ever ever like Miami or LA but we are 3/3 acquiring max high level players are last cracks at the bat. Could be much worse but the lakers will always be the lakers


To some extent, sure, it would be impossible to remove all advantages completely, but the "player empowerment era" has made the league a joke. Team-building and shrewd decision making is 10% of winning a championship and wooing egomaniacal superstars like LeBron and KD is 90%. The league needs to restrict player movement so players have less control over where they play, especially for franchise talents.

With the **** that players have pulled over the last 10 years (Heatles, KD to GSW, AD forcing his way to LAL) I think getting rid of UFA is justified. The most freedom they deserve is RFA, but since the problem is superstars teaming up instead of competing with each other you could just give each team a designated franchise player. The franchise player would get an extra $10M a year over the max, or even more, but they never get to be UFA.

Or the league can do nothing and let the ratings slide continue. With Silver, I don't think anything happens. Dude is milquetoast.


I disagree completely but that’s fine we can agree to disagree. I also dont think your sentiments would be as vehement if the Celtics were the benefactor of AD forcing his way here to play with kyrie and KD. Nor will it be when tatum is getting guys here in the future.

Player empowerment is not a bad thing nor is players utilizing their power to make organizations better or to make moves that will improve the players individual careers.
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