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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1581 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:27 pm

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sure thing. Though, it does seem odd how everyone else is seemingly allowed to voice their opinions about these things with impunity. It's almost like you're drunk with power as a realgm mod and target me. Weird that

incoming reeeing claiming you aren't a clown who targets people for wrongthink who call out the fact that you're a clown who targets people for wrongthink and ban me. You're not slick. Everyone can see this. Sure, 90% of the betas on here are happy about it but if that's who you're impressing your life lacks meaning. Hit the gym btw. Sloppy is not a good look


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Can we permanently ban him ?


Only if we bring Comedian back.

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Post#1582 » by Bleedsgreen » Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:55 pm

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I missed what happened with the Comedian (life happens), can someone give me a rough understanding?


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Floody100 wrote:Can we permanently ban him ?


Only if we bring Comedian back.

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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1583 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:17 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:With Haslem retirement, Smart trade, and Lillard trade, Jaylen will now move into top 10 of active players who have spent their entire career on a single team behind Curry (14), Draymond (11), Klay (10), Giannis (10), Jokic (8), Towns (8), Booker (8), and Myles Turner (8).

He leads the league in most playoff games (105) played since he was drafted in 2016.


Weird given how often Turner comes up in trade rumors. :)
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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1584 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:28 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:With Haslem retirement, Smart trade, and Lillard trade, Jaylen will now move into top 10 of active players who have spent their entire career on a single team behind Curry (14), Draymond (11), Klay (10), Giannis (10), Jokic (8), Towns (8), Booker (8), and Myles Turner (8).

He leads the league in most playoff games (105) played since he was drafted in 2016.


Also, it shows how player movement is more intense than it used to be. The Celtics alone have occasioally had 3 or more guys with 8+ years of service on the roster at the same time.

Bird/McHale/Parish made it to a triple 12.

Russell/Heinsohn/Sam Jones is one combo from the Russell era. I think Heinsohn could be swapped for K.C. Jones the subsequent season as well. Russell/Heinsohn were also on a team w/ 4 guys of 7-8 years of Celtics service (they were the 7s, while Ramsey and Loscy were the 8s).
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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1585 » by Hal14 » Sun Jul 30, 2023 3:37 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:With Haslem retirement, Smart trade, and Lillard trade, Jaylen will now move into top 10 of active players who have spent their entire career on a single team behind Curry (14), Draymond (11), Klay (10), Giannis (10), Jokic (8), Towns (8), Booker (8), and Myles Turner (8).

He leads the league in most playoff games (105) played since he was drafted in 2016.


Weird given how often Turner comes up in trade rumors. :)

JB, too.
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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1586 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:37 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:With Haslem retirement, Smart trade, and Lillard trade, Jaylen will now move into top 10 of active players who have spent their entire career on a single team behind Curry (14), Draymond (11), Klay (10), Giannis (10), Jokic (8), Towns (8), Booker (8), and Myles Turner (8).

He leads the league in most playoff games (105) played since he was drafted in 2016.


Weird given how often Turner comes up in trade rumors. :)

JB, too.


And to some extent Towns and pre-trade Marcus Smart.

Really, all of them except the MVPs, maaaybe the other GS guys, and Booker.

But Turner is the one who seemed most credibly to be on the block, especially when he and Sabonis were both there.
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Post#1587 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:36 pm

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Post#1588 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:38 am

The Boston Celtics are winning the World Championship with Jaylen Brown as the 3rd highest paid player of the team. Until they aren't, I guess I can keep saying it.
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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1589 » by seiffert82 » Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:24 am

Good on him for getting that ridiculous amount of money. That's the business he's in and he's good enough to capitalise on it.

The issue is the system allowing a player to sign for up to 35% of the cap based solely on a stupid All NBA team selection that somehow equates the value of the best player in the league, with the 15th best player (or worse).
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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1590 » by Parliament10 » Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:50 pm

seiffert82 wrote:Good on him for getting that ridiculous amount of money. That's the business he's in and he's good enough to capitalise on it.

The issue is the system allowing a player to sign for up to 35% of the cap based solely on a stupid All NBA team selection that somehow equates the value of the best player in the league, with the 15th best player (or worse).

Exactly. In what world does it make sense, to off 35% to a single player? (70% to two?)
I think it's too ridiculously high. Kills the Parity too. Make a Max contract, at 25%. Leave it at that.

We have so much more going on in the NBA/WNBA/G League, etc. We should be focusing more on the support staff.
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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1591 » by wco81 » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:15 pm

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seiffert82 wrote:Good on him for getting that ridiculous amount of money. That's the business he's in and he's good enough to capitalise on it.

The issue is the system allowing a player to sign for up to 35% of the cap based solely on a stupid All NBA team selection that somehow equates the value of the best player in the league, with the 15th best player (or worse).

Exactly. In what world does it make sense, to off 35% to a single player? (70% to two?)
I think it's too ridiculously high. Kills the Parity too. Make a Max contract, at 25%. Leave it at that.

We have so much more going on in the NBA/WNBA/G League, etc. We should be focusing more on the support staff.
You cannot Win a Championship with just 5 Starters. Not in Today's NBA.



What was the gap between what the Celtics could pay him and another team?

It was like $200 million? So the gap is $100 million over 5 years or $20 million a year?

Celtics could have offered him $250 million or even $230 million and point out to him that he can't get more anywhere else.

Of course that could have led to hard feelings but the Celtics could have gambled that he wouldn't leave $30, 40 or $50 million on the table and sign with another team.
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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1592 » by GoCeltics123 » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:19 pm

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seiffert82 wrote:Good on him for getting that ridiculous amount of money. That's the business he's in and he's good enough to capitalise on it.

The issue is the system allowing a player to sign for up to 35% of the cap based solely on a stupid All NBA team selection that somehow equates the value of the best player in the league, with the 15th best player (or worse).

Exactly. In what world does it make sense, to off 35% to a single player? (70% to two?)
I think it's too ridiculously high. Kills the Parity too. Make a Max contract, at 25%. Leave it at that.

We have so much more going on in the NBA/WNBA/G League, etc. We should be focusing more on the support staff.
You cannot Win a Championship with just 5 Starters. Not in Today's NBA.



What was the gap between what the Celtics could pay him and another team?

It was like $200 million? So the gap is $100 million over 5 years or $20 million a year?

Celtics could have offered him $250 million or even $230 million and point out to him that he can't get more anywhere else.

Of course that could have led to hard feelings but the Celtics could have gambled that he wouldn't leave $30, 40 or $50 million on the table and sign with another team.

Jaylen Brown was eligible for a supermax and took a discount for us once. The odds were extremely low that he'd do it again.

He was never taking less. Just wasn't realistic. No players take less anymore really, unless it's for one year like Harden
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Post#1593 » by 165bows » Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:01 pm

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Parliament10 wrote:Exactly. In what world does it make sense, to off 35% to a single player? (70% to two?)
I think it's too ridiculously high. Kills the Parity too. Make a Max contract, at 25%. Leave it at that.

We have so much more going on in the NBA/WNBA/G League, etc. We should be focusing more on the support staff.
You cannot Win a Championship with just 5 Starters. Not in Today's NBA.



What was the gap between what the Celtics could pay him and another team?

It was like $200 million? So the gap is $100 million over 5 years or $20 million a year?

Celtics could have offered him $250 million or even $230 million and point out to him that he can't get more anywhere else.

Of course that could have led to hard feelings but the Celtics could have gambled that he wouldn't leave $30, 40 or $50 million on the table and sign with another team.

Jaylen Brown was eligible for a supermax and took a discount for us once. The odds were extremely low that he'd do it again.

He was never taking less. Just wasn't realistic. No players take less anymore really, unless it's for one year like Harden

KP just took less.
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Re: Jaylen Brown – All-NBA, 2nd Team 2023 – (Agrees to $304M/5yrs) 

Post#1594 » by steefP2 » Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:04 pm

wco81 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
seiffert82 wrote:Good on him for getting that ridiculous amount of money. That's the business he's in and he's good enough to capitalise on it.

The issue is the system allowing a player to sign for up to 35% of the cap based solely on a stupid All NBA team selection that somehow equates the value of the best player in the league, with the 15th best player (or worse).

Exactly. In what world does it make sense, to off 35% to a single player? (70% to two?)
I think it's too ridiculously high. Kills the Parity too. Make a Max contract, at 25%. Leave it at that.

We have so much more going on in the NBA/WNBA/G League, etc. We should be focusing more on the support staff.
You cannot Win a Championship with just 5 Starters. Not in Today's NBA.



What was the gap between what the Celtics could pay him and another team?

It was like $200 million? So the gap is $100 million over 5 years or $20 million a year?

Celtics could have offered him $250 million or even $230 million and point out to him that he can't get more anywhere else.

Of course that could have led to hard feelings but the Celtics could have gambled that he wouldn't leave $30, 40 or $50 million on the table and sign with another team.


The difference was roughly 50 million. Normal max would’ve been 250-255 ish, supermax will be 295-305 ish.
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Post#1595 » by steefP2 » Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:06 pm

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What was the gap between what the Celtics could pay him and another team?

It was like $200 million? So the gap is $100 million over 5 years or $20 million a year?

Celtics could have offered him $250 million or even $230 million and point out to him that he can't get more anywhere else.

Of course that could have led to hard feelings but the Celtics could have gambled that he wouldn't leave $30, 40 or $50 million on the table and sign with another team.

Jaylen Brown was eligible for a supermax and took a discount for us once. The odds were extremely low that he'd do it again.

He was never taking less. Just wasn't realistic. No players take less anymore really, unless it's for one year like Harden

KP just took less.



I mean sure but KP and JB haven’t been in similar situations exactly. Their market value is very different due to reputation, injury history and position.

Jaylen is a star wing at his prime age, that’s a max guy for 30 out of 30 teams. We just got unlucky with the all nba selection. Well lucky and unlucky both; at least we don’t have to deal with free agency next season.
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Post#1596 » by SuperDeluxe » Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:45 pm

Smitty bringing some clarity:

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Post#1597 » by Parliament10 » Tue Aug 1, 2023 9:25 pm

SuperDeluxe wrote:Smitty bringing some clarity:

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Post#1598 » by bisme37 » Tue Aug 1, 2023 10:04 pm

Jaylen Brown's Supermax Extension Worth $288M Based On Current 24-25 Cap Estimate

The supermax extension signed by Jaylen Brown with the Boston Celtics was widely reported to be for $304 million over five years.

But in order for the deal to reach $304 million, it would have to start at $52.4 million in first-year salary, which assumes the cap will jump by the maximum possible 10 percent.

The current projection for the 24-25 salary cap is $142 million, which is an increase of 4.4 percent. The NBA is projecting some losses to the bankruptcy of Bally RSN's parent company Diamond Sports.

With the NBA's $142 million projection, Brown's extension will be worth $288.26 million with a first-year salary of $49.7 million

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Post#1599 » by captain green » Wed Aug 2, 2023 6:51 am

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Can we permanently ban him ?


Only if we bring Comedian back.

Fair trade

Man I've been so hit or miss these past two years on trying to even comment but I must have missed a lot.
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Post#1600 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Aug 2, 2023 2:58 pm

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I don’t think he’s deserving of the supermax but it is what it is. Good thread. Whether or not they’re going to play him offball more or as a finisher more, that left hand (and reading defenses) has to get better.

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