2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27)
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Added a Poll:
With the Draft going to 2 Days. Would you like to see a 3rd Round added, for Two-Ways, etc?
With the Draft going to 2 Days. Would you like to see a 3rd Round added, for Two-Ways, etc?
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Parliament10 wrote:Added a Poll:
With the Draft going to 2 Days. Would you like to see a 3rd Round added, for Two-Ways, etc?
Definitely add a 3rd rd for me..too.much talent out there. Avenge our G league title.loss as well.
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playa-hater wrote:Hal14 wrote:Parliament10 wrote:After the latest Porzingis Injury, I think that Celtics may want to consider moving up?
Eh. We had the most injury prone center in the league before (Time Lord) who was injury prone for his entire career in Boston, yet Brad still chose to trade out of the 1st round in each of the 3 drafts since he moved into the front office.
Yes, Al is older now than he was before. But Al is still playing at a high level..plus we have 3 other capable backup bigs (Tillman, Kornet, Queta).
With KP's continued injury struggles, I think Brad is now more likely to make a move for a big this summer..if he does though, I think he'll try to add a big who's proven at the NBA level (via trade or free agency) and more likely to contribute for a contender than a kid in the draft.
I think Brad might look at a big (either with a draft pick this year or an UDFA) but I doubt he trades up..that is simply the opposite of the strategy he has used since taking the job 3 yrs ago..and I'd say his roster-building strategy over the past 3 yrs has been nearly perfect.
I think Tillman Kornet and/or Queta can serve Boston OK next year.but drafting a BIG this year can serve a young Center quality time under the tutelage of KP and Al. That young center will almost certainly have a higher ceiling than what we currently have in our 3 backups. UNLESS someone believes Queta is that man. If one of those 5. Centers I listed can be that man (according to Brad) then by all means go for.it.
Taking A quick but not thorough look yet, each appears to have some nice intangibles Boston can use and want..
What do you think, adding them as Two-Ways?
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For my own sanity I voted keep it at 2 rounds, lol. Too many possibilities already. And I kinda enjoy the UDFA scrum the second after the draft ends. Even though we always lose out cuz we have no PT to offer. On second thought.... maybe I do like a 3rd round... would probably need to coincide with a couple more 2-ways?
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playa-hater wrote:Parliament10 wrote:Added a Poll:
With the Draft going to 2 Days. Would you like to see a 3rd Round added, for Two-Ways, etc?
Definitely add a 3rd rd for me..too.much talent out there. Avenge our G league title.loss as well.
Would Love to have Won that G League title, and the NBA title, in the same year.
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Speaking of clones, Edey can be a mix of Drummond and Kornet but bigger.. there I said it..
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Parliament10 wrote:playa-hater wrote:Hal14 wrote:Eh. We had the most injury prone center in the league before (Time Lord) who was injury prone for his entire career in Boston, yet Brad still chose to trade out of the 1st round in each of the 3 drafts since he moved into the front office.
Yes, Al is older now than he was before. But Al is still playing at a high level..plus we have 3 other capable backup bigs (Tillman, Kornet, Queta).
With KP's continued injury struggles, I think Brad is now more likely to make a move for a big this summer..if he does though, I think he'll try to add a big who's proven at the NBA level (via trade or free agency) and more likely to contribute for a contender than a kid in the draft.
I think Brad might look at a big (either with a draft pick this year or an UDFA) but I doubt he trades up..that is simply the opposite of the strategy he has used since taking the job 3 yrs ago..and I'd say his roster-building strategy over the past 3 yrs has been nearly perfect.
I think Tillman Kornet and/or Queta can serve Boston OK next year.but drafting a BIG this year can serve a young Center quality time under the tutelage of KP and Al. That young center will almost certainly have a higher ceiling than what we currently have in our 3 backups. UNLESS someone believes Queta is that man. If one of those 5. Centers I listed can be that man (according to Brad) then by all means go for.it.
Taking A quick but not thorough look yet, each appears to have some nice intangibles Boston can use and want..
What do you think, adding them as Two-Ways?
Two ways are nice but if we drafted one in the first rd I am guessing not to be a 2way.
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playa-hater wrote:Kalela wrote:playa-hater wrote:V Messi, Flipowski, Edey, D Holmes, Ware are 5 centers who may be first rd picks.. One or more may slide to us at 30. Or maybe we can trade up a bit to get them.. Might be a few others.. I hope Brad looks long and hard at that position. Maybe he will like one and thinks they would fit well with this team going forward..
.. But there is enough talent there to be worthy.of pick 30 imo.
I hope they draft a center. I like Missi. He already has a Siakam-like spin he uses from time to time. Bona is another player who may work for the Celtics. You don't need to trade up for him as well if we are to believe the mock drafts. He has similar measurements to Adebayo. Ware is a boom/bust type. I would take a chance on his. He has good size and athleticism and he can somewhat shoot threes too.
Messi may be a clone between Siakim and Timelorddeal!!
He's not a shooter, though. So, you're torn, lol. He has some tantalizing skills & measurables for sure.
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While Center is our Main weakness, in the near future. I'm sure Stevens will give a look at other positions.
The NBA has had some good luck with Foreign Gems, in the 2nd Round. Jokic being a prime example.
The NBA has had some good luck with Foreign Gems, in the 2nd Round. Jokic being a prime example.
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playa-hater wrote:Parliament10 wrote:playa-hater wrote:
I think Tillman Kornet and/or Queta can serve Boston OK next year.but drafting a BIG this year can serve a young Center quality time under the tutelage of KP and Al. That young center will almost certainly have a higher ceiling than what we currently have in our 3 backups. UNLESS someone believes Queta is that man. If one of those 5. Centers I listed can be that man (according to Brad) then by all means go for.it.
Taking A quick but not thorough look yet, each appears to have some nice intangibles Boston can use and want..
What do you think, adding them as Two-Ways?
Two ways are nice but if we drafted one in the first rd I am guessing not to be a 2way.
The C's do have decent back up big depth, but I think its VERY important they find a guy who has at least a chance of being able to shoot from three at the Center position. We've seen how important being able to play five out is to the Celtis offensive identity especially against teams with good rim protection.
Obviously shooting bigs who aren't disasters on defense are extremely tough to find, but if Stevens see a guy who he thinks has ANY shot at that skill set late in the first round he should go after that guy.
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We need to draft a big and hit a home run.
Easier said than done obviously.
Easier said than done obviously.
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djFan71 wrote:Hal14 wrote:Parliament10 wrote:After the latest Porzingis Injury, I think that Celtics may want to consider moving up?
Eh. We had the most injury prone center in the league before (Time Lord) who was injury prone for his entire career in Boston, yet Brad still chose to trade out of the 1st round in each of the 3 drafts since he moved into the front office.
Yes, Al is older now than he was before. But Al is still playing at a high level..plus we have 3 other capable backup bigs (Tillman, Kornet, Queta).
With KP's continued injury struggles, I think Brad is now more likely to make a move for a big this summer..if he does though, I think he'll try to add a big who's proven at the NBA level (via trade or free agency) and more likely to contribute for a contender than a kid in the draft.
I think Brad might look at a big (either with a draft pick this year or an UDFA) but I doubt he trades up..that is simply the opposite of the strategy he has used since taking the job 3 yrs ago..and I'd say his roster-building strategy over the past 3 yrs has been nearly perfect.
What do you think of Chomche? I would love to roll the dice at 54, but think he's gone. I might not even hate it at 30 even, if we could stash him and not start the clock. Or the infamous trade down with POR and grab all the 2nd rounders, lol.
I wouldn't hate it at 54 (or as an UDFA).
But I think I would hate it if we took Chomche at 30.
Too raw, too unproven, too much of a risky, boom or bust type of pick to take that high, imo.
Late in the 2nd round, like in the 50's, sure I'll take a flier on him. Since most of those picks don't usually work out anyways..
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything 
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With how fragile Porzingis is and Horford working toward age 40 we need a big. I think there are some intriguing options.
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Hal14 wrote:djFan71 wrote:Hal14 wrote:Eh. We had the most injury prone center in the league before (Time Lord) who was injury prone for his entire career in Boston, yet Brad still chose to trade out of the 1st round in each of the 3 drafts since he moved into the front office.
Yes, Al is older now than he was before. But Al is still playing at a high level..plus we have 3 other capable backup bigs (Tillman, Kornet, Queta).
With KP's continued injury struggles, I think Brad is now more likely to make a move for a big this summer..if he does though, I think he'll try to add a big who's proven at the NBA level (via trade or free agency) and more likely to contribute for a contender than a kid in the draft.
I think Brad might look at a big (either with a draft pick this year or an UDFA) but I doubt he trades up..that is simply the opposite of the strategy he has used since taking the job 3 yrs ago..and I'd say his roster-building strategy over the past 3 yrs has been nearly perfect.
What do you think of Chomche? I would love to roll the dice at 54, but think he's gone. I might not even hate it at 30 even, if we could stash him and not start the clock. Or the infamous trade down with POR and grab all the 2nd rounders, lol.
I wouldn't hate it at 54 (or as an UDFA).
But I think I would hate it if we took Chomche at 30.
Too raw, too unproven, too much of a risky, boom or bust type of pick to take that high, imo.
Late in the 2nd round, like in the 50's, sure I'll take a flier on him. Since most of those picks don't usually work out anyways..
Yeah he is super intriguing but I think needs a lot of development before he is ready to make an NBA debut. If we trade back from 30 and pick him up in the late 30s early 40s I like that ok. I do think he is gone by 54.
I’d rather get a dude that can contribute sooner though.
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With all this talk of bigs, let me chime in a little bit on Jesse Edwards - the one "true center" the Celtics have brought in for a pre-draft workout (to be fair, not all workouts get reported - especially when it comes to guys projected to be 1st round picks..)
It's interesting. We've talked in this thread about how some of the guys Boston has had in for a workout remind us of current/former Celtics players (Harrison Ingram is kind of like Grant Williams, Armel Traore is kind of like Oshae Brissett, we've brought in a few wing shooters - Karaban, Scheierman, Payton Sandfort, Cormac Ryan - who are kind of like Hauser).
Well, I haven't watched Jesse Edwards a ton..I've watched a decent amount..but he does kind of remind me of Luke Kornet. He's about 7'1", so almost as tall as Luke who is 7'2". Edwards also has a 7'5" wingspan.
Edwards doesn't have great athleticism. He doesn't shoot or handle the ball much at all. There's not really anything on the court that he is *really* good at. But, he seems to be like this steady guy. Nothing flashy, he just goes in there, gets the job done, is solid, does his job, doesn't make mistakes, doesn't try to do too much. Sets screens, doesn't let the ball stick to his hands, plays smart, fundamental basketball, rolls to the rim, catches lobs, can rebound and block shots decently well. Knows where to be on both ends of the floor.
The more I think about it, the way he has played these past couple of years - is very much like how Kornet has played over the past 2 season in Boston.
Also, even though Bob Huggins (Mazzulla's former coach, and mentor) is no longer the coach at West Virginia, I'm sure Joe still has connections at West Virginia, so that might also work in Edwards' favor.
I don't think Edwards is worth a draft pick (partly because he's really old..has already turned 24!). But it would not shock me at all if we sign him as an UDFA.
Would be interesting if we had Edwards on like a 2-way next season and still had Kornet as well. Luke is such a good dude, you know he would be totally fine with taking Edwards under his wing, teaching him some stuff.
Or, if Luke leaves as a FA, then Edwards slides in as a guy who could potentially contribute right away, on a 2-way (then possibly get converted later in the season).
It's interesting. We've talked in this thread about how some of the guys Boston has had in for a workout remind us of current/former Celtics players (Harrison Ingram is kind of like Grant Williams, Armel Traore is kind of like Oshae Brissett, we've brought in a few wing shooters - Karaban, Scheierman, Payton Sandfort, Cormac Ryan - who are kind of like Hauser).
Well, I haven't watched Jesse Edwards a ton..I've watched a decent amount..but he does kind of remind me of Luke Kornet. He's about 7'1", so almost as tall as Luke who is 7'2". Edwards also has a 7'5" wingspan.
Edwards doesn't have great athleticism. He doesn't shoot or handle the ball much at all. There's not really anything on the court that he is *really* good at. But, he seems to be like this steady guy. Nothing flashy, he just goes in there, gets the job done, is solid, does his job, doesn't make mistakes, doesn't try to do too much. Sets screens, doesn't let the ball stick to his hands, plays smart, fundamental basketball, rolls to the rim, catches lobs, can rebound and block shots decently well. Knows where to be on both ends of the floor.
The more I think about it, the way he has played these past couple of years - is very much like how Kornet has played over the past 2 season in Boston.
Also, even though Bob Huggins (Mazzulla's former coach, and mentor) is no longer the coach at West Virginia, I'm sure Joe still has connections at West Virginia, so that might also work in Edwards' favor.
I don't think Edwards is worth a draft pick (partly because he's really old..has already turned 24!). But it would not shock me at all if we sign him as an UDFA.
Would be interesting if we had Edwards on like a 2-way next season and still had Kornet as well. Luke is such a good dude, you know he would be totally fine with taking Edwards under his wing, teaching him some stuff.
Or, if Luke leaves as a FA, then Edwards slides in as a guy who could potentially contribute right away, on a 2-way (then possibly get converted later in the season).
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything 
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What are the chances we can get DaRon Holmes?
Seems like a pretty complete player.
Seems like a pretty complete player.
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brackdan70 wrote:Hal14 wrote:djFan71 wrote:What do you think of Chomche? I would love to roll the dice at 54, but think he's gone. I might not even hate it at 30 even, if we could stash him and not start the clock. Or the infamous trade down with POR and grab all the 2nd rounders, lol.
I wouldn't hate it at 54 (or as an UDFA).
But I think I would hate it if we took Chomche at 30.
Too raw, too unproven, too much of a risky, boom or bust type of pick to take that high, imo.
Late in the 2nd round, like in the 50's, sure I'll take a flier on him. Since most of those picks don't usually work out anyways..
Yeah he is super intriguing but I think needs a lot of development before he is ready to make an NBA debut. If we trade back from 30 and pick him up in the late 30s early 40s I like that ok. I do think he is gone by 54.
I’d rather get a dude that can contribute sooner though.
Honestly, it wouldn't shock me if Chomche goes undrafted.
But it also wouldn't shock me if he's off the board somewhere in the first 35 picks. He seems like a wildcard, and this draft is pretty wild and unpredictable as it is.
Lastly, it also wouldn't shock me if he withdraws his name from the draft altogether. The deadline is June 16. The deadline already passed for college guys (if they wish to withdraw and still have college eligibility). Chomche can no longer play college ball, but he could withdraw his name by the June 16 deadline and go play overseas somewhere next season.
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Celtics need to draft the best player available. Celtics can pick up any big man stiff for the vet min. that will contribute as much or more than the 30th pick in the NBA draft.
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Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics need to draft the best player available. Celtics can pick up any big man stiff for the vet min. that will contribute as much or more than the 30th pick in the NBA draft.
This is probably true but crushes my dreams.
Jordan Walsh > Lonnie Walker and Charles Bassey
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