NBA Playoff Games 2025, Non-Celtics

[Fierce1]

Celtics had a legit reason to fire Joe in 2023, when the Cs went down 0-3 to Miami in the ECF.

But they didn't fire Joe.

Just a couple of weeks ago, the Cs had a reason to fire Joe after losing to NY.

And once again the Cs opted not to fire Joe.

I really believe there's more to this than just basketball.

[FlatearthZorro]

Celtics had a legit reason to fire Joe in 2023, when the Cs went down 0-3 to Miami in the ECF.

But they didn't fire Joe.

Just a couple of weeks ago, the Cs had a reason to fire Joe after losing to NY.

And once again the Cs opted not to fire Joe.

I really believe there's more to this than just basketball.

Maybe, it is continuity, problem here is that I truly believe C's could've had 2 titles. I really believe it. Instead, 1 title and 2 very disappointing outings.
The think I also don't like about Joe is how crazy stubborn he is.

[Fierce1]

Celtics had a legit reason to fire Joe in 2023, when the Cs went down 0-3 to Miami in the ECF.

But they didn't fire Joe.

Just a couple of weeks ago, the Cs had a reason to fire Joe after losing to NY.

And once again the Cs opted not to fire Joe.

I really believe there's more to this than just basketball.

Maybe, it is continuity, problem here is that I truly believe C's could've had 2 titles. I really believe it. Instead, 1 title and 2 very disappointing outings.

I don't think Cs beat Nugs in 2023.

And this season, the Pacers and OKC are just better.

When it comes to titles, I don't get greedy because I saw the Blazers in 1990 and 1992.

Just imagine if the Cs lost to Dallas last year.

[FlatearthZorro]

Celtics had a legit reason to fire Joe in 2023, when the Cs went down 0-3 to Miami in the ECF.

But they didn't fire Joe.

Just a couple of weeks ago, the Cs had a reason to fire Joe after losing to NY.

And once again the Cs opted not to fire Joe.

I really believe there's more to this than just basketball.

Maybe, it is continuity, problem here is that I truly believe C's could've had 2 titles. I really believe it. Instead, 1 title and 2 very disappointing outings.

I don't think Cs beat Nugs in 2023.

And this season, the Pacers and OKC are just better.

When it comes to titles, I don't get greedy because I saw the Blazers in 1990 and 1992.

Just imagine if the Cs lost to Dallas last year.

We were worn out this season and hurt. I think we'd do much better if we had a healthy team.

[Floody100]

Not a peep about Mark Daigneault's coaching despite the Thunder blowing a 15 point fourth quarter lead.

He even did the thing everybody pretends to hate where he doesn't take any timeout (zero in the last seven and half minutes outside the one for the last shot attempt).

His main "adjustment" was starting a guy that exploded for 6 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist in 34 minutes on 3/9 shooting and was a team low -13 (nobody else was below -4).

Hmmm double standards are obvious.

Last I checked Daigneault wasn't the Celtics coach
We are the Celtics. We criticize our own
I don't care about other teams. As far as I am concerned - all players can get an illness that passes right away or a rash that prevents them to play against us and we cruise 150 -10 for 82 games and the playoff

Yes, and Daigneault game management was dumb. This not makes our coach any better

Exactly this. There are 29 other coaches and yet we have only one. I guess not criticizing the others is some sort of Morale victory for Joe stans. I mean what does any other coaches' flaws have to do with Joe. Sounds like "let's bring down as many other coaches to Joe's level because we can't raise coach Joe's level of coaching"

Not shocked you haven’t figured it out yet but you are the Joe stan you goof

[Shak_Celts]

It stands out because he's bad at it. If he was making a decent percentage on those, I won't complain much. It's been going on for years. I think he's only had one good season with that pullup.

Meh, the greatest players in history, have a horrible percentage on game winners, still want them taking them…

I’m not saying I want him to spam them, I’m saying some of what you guys are saying is recency bias. It’s not all he does. Not only that, you were using a shot that Hali just made versus the step backs that Tatum was missing… when Hali took the same type of shot a couple weeks ago.

Except he did spam them on (I forget which game against the Knicks). Considering the Knicks have Brunson and KAT on defense, it really did feel like Tatum settled for his pullup three too much. I'd rather him attack the basket and miss than dribble dance up top for his sidestep three with everyone else just standing around.

His free throw attempt rate went down this season (both RS and PS) as his 3-pt attempt rate increased. And it's not like he was shooting lights out from 3 to justify that increase.

Yeah it was game 1. It still doesn’t change the fact that when another team/player does something the way yall like you’re quick to compare them to Celtics players.

I don’t see you saying anything about OKC needing to learn from the Celtics how NOT to CHOKE against this same Pacers team that we swept. (Maybe you said it after my initial comments?)

Again, when someone does something yall like you call our guys out, forgetting when those players do the same, but aren’t calling out those same guys when they falter.


I didn’t want Tatum taking those shots either, but it was said at the time, why do we have to keep loving on other teams vs ours. Of course we can talk about other teams and our love for them, but why the need to constantly bash Cs when appreciating them?

[Shak_Celts]

Not a peep about Mark Daigneault's coaching despite the Thunder blowing a 15 point fourth quarter lead.

He even did the thing everybody pretends to hate where he doesn't take any timeout (zero in the last seven and half minutes outside the one for the last shot attempt).

His main "adjustment" was starting a guy that exploded for 6 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist in 34 minutes on 3/9 shooting and was a team low -13 (nobody else was below -4).

Hmmm double standards are obvious.

Last I checked Daigneault wasn't the Celtics coach
We are the Celtics. We criticize our own
I don't care about other teams. As far as I am concerned - all players can get an illness that passes right away or a rash that prevents them to play against us and we cruise 150 -10 for 82 games and the playoff

Yes, and Daigneault game management was dumb. This not makes our coach any better

Except when those same coaches or teams are used to bash Cs.

When okc wins you’ll hear it. Real silent when it doesn’t go that way.

[ConstableGeneva]

Meh, the greatest players in history, have a horrible percentage on game winners, still want them taking them…

I’m not saying I want him to spam them, I’m saying some of what you guys are saying is recency bias. It’s not all he does. Not only that, you were using a shot that Hali just made versus the step backs that Tatum was missing… when Hali took the same type of shot a couple weeks ago.

Except he did spam them on (I forget which game against the Knicks). Considering the Knicks have Brunson and KAT on defense, it really did feel like Tatum settled for his pullup three too much. I'd rather him attack the basket and miss than dribble dance up top for his sidestep three with everyone else just standing around.

His free throw attempt rate went down this season (both RS and PS) as his 3-pt attempt rate increased. And it's not like he was shooting lights out from 3 to justify that increase.

Yeah it was game 1. It still doesn’t change the fact that when another team/player does something the way yall like you’re quick to compare them to Celtics players.

I don’t see you saying anything about OKC needing to learn from the Celtics how NOT to CHOKE against this same Pacers team that we swept. (Maybe you said it after my initial comments?)

Again, when someone does something yall like you call our guys out, forgetting when those players do the same, but aren’t calling out those same guys when they falter.


I didn’t want Tatum taking those shots either, but it was said at the time, why do we have to keep loving on other teams vs ours. Of course we can talk about other teams and our love for them, but why the need to constantly bash Cs when appreciating them?

I don't say anything about other teams/teams' players 'cos I don't care if they do well or not. I'm not a fan of their team. I expect more from the team/players I root for. But everyone is different (as a fan) and I get that.

[ThePigeon]

Not a peep about Mark Daigneault's coaching despite the Thunder blowing a 15 point fourth quarter lead.

He even did the thing everybody pretends to hate where he doesn't take any timeout (zero in the last seven and half minutes outside the one for the last shot attempt).

His main "adjustment" was starting a guy that exploded for 6 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist in 34 minutes on 3/9 shooting and was a team low -13 (nobody else was below -4).

Hmmm double standards are obvious.

Last I checked Daigneault wasn't the Celtics coach
We are the Celtics. We criticize our own
I don't care about other teams. As far as I am concerned - all players can get an illness that passes right away or a rash that prevents them to play against us and we cruise 150 -10 for 82 games and the playoff

Yes, and Daigneault game management was dumb. This not makes our coach any better

Except when those same coaches or teams are used to bash Cs.

When okc wins you’ll hear it. Real silent when it doesn’t go that way.

You didn't hear about OKC from me
I think they are allowed too much and thus their success. They are nothing special

[playa-hater]

Last I checked Daigneault wasn't the Celtics coach
We are the Celtics. We criticize our own
I don't care about other teams. As far as I am concerned - all players can get an illness that passes right away or a rash that prevents them to play against us and we cruise 150 -10 for 82 games and the playoff

Yes, and Daigneault game management was dumb. This not makes our coach any better

Exactly this. There are 29 other coaches and yet we have only one. I guess not criticizing the others is some sort of Morale victory for Joe stans. I mean what does any other coaches' flaws have to do with Joe. Sounds like "let's bring down as many other coaches to Joe's level because we can't raise coach Joe's level of coaching"

Not shocked you haven’t figured it out yet but you are the Joe stan you goof

Last I checked, there were 37 votes to not extend Joe. And only 16 to keep.

I'm so proud to lead the charge of thirty six other voters. But we are all just couch potatoes and you obviously are the expert.

But on that subject there have been many well rounded rebuttals against the theory of Joe being a good coach. Some have had extremely well put theories balanced out with many clear cut facts to support their assertions on Joe. Some have used excellent analytics when necessary. Certainly more articulate and accurate than me. and YET never do I see you or most Joe supporters come back with anything other than "Joe is the winningest coach in the regular season" etc.. season Or "Joe won a title so Joe must be great". All in all sounding very Couch Potato and casual with absolutely no detailed or analytic response to the examples used against Joe. But instead, it is just the almost middle school level of demeaning someone's opinion like a "Couch Potato" or "Goofy" Like the one's who do think Joe is good are somehow better in anyway because..erhh ..They say so.

Perhaps in year or 2, you too will conveniently disappear when the evidence becomes so overwhelming against Joe. Whatever. I will still be here.

[Shak_Celts]

Except he did spam them on (I forget which game against the Knicks). Considering the Knicks have Brunson and KAT on defense, it really did feel like Tatum settled for his pullup three too much. I'd rather him attack the basket and miss than dribble dance up top for his sidestep three with everyone else just standing around.

His free throw attempt rate went down this season (both RS and PS) as his 3-pt attempt rate increased. And it's not like he was shooting lights out from 3 to justify that increase.

Yeah it was game 1. It still doesn’t change the fact that when another team/player does something the way yall like you’re quick to compare them to Celtics players.

I don’t see you saying anything about OKC needing to learn from the Celtics how NOT to CHOKE against this same Pacers team that we swept. (Maybe you said it after my initial comments?)

Again, when someone does something yall like you call our guys out, forgetting when those players do the same, but aren’t calling out those same guys when they falter.


I didn’t want Tatum taking those shots either, but it was said at the time, why do we have to keep loving on other teams vs ours. Of course we can talk about other teams and our love for them, but why the need to constantly bash Cs when appreciating them?

I don't say anything about other teams/teams' players 'cos I don't care if they do well or not. I'm not a fan of their team. I expect more from the team/players I root for. But everyone is different (as a fan) and I get that.

You literally commented on the shot Hali got as opposed to the side step 3s the Cs got. That’s what started the whole conversation. All I did was remind you that he won g1 of the ecf on that shot. You talk about how okc plays all the time vs the way we play the game. I just said about two weeks ago that it’s only mentioned as a way to criticize the Cs but not brought up when it doesn’t go well for the other team.

You weren’t the only one of course. That’s why I didn’t quote anyone, because it was multiple people.

[djFan71]

Ngl I’d rather have OKC win it. I just don’t like these teams that have mediocre regular seasons and then get hot in the playoffs and win, like hockey. Just devalues an already devalued regular season.

Otoh will be really interesting to watch if Okc struggles now that they aren’t a front runner. Young team if they start playing off their back foot they could look a lot differently.

Still think Okc wins it though.

I want neither, IND as champion just feels wrong, lol. But having lived in Seattle for 20+ years, including when they were sold, I shall root against the Thunder til the end of time. So, go 'cers, I guess.

[Shak_Celts]

Ngl I’d rather have OKC win it. I just don’t like these teams that have mediocre regular seasons and then get hot in the playoffs and win, like hockey. Just devalues an already devalued regular season.

Otoh will be really interesting to watch if Okc struggles now that they aren’t a front runner. Young team if they start playing off their back foot they could look a lot differently.

Still think Okc wins it though.

I want neither, IND as champion just feels wrong, lol. But having lived in Seattle for 20+ years, including when they were sold, I shall root against the Thunder til the end of time. So, go 'cers, I guess.

Don’t be too mad at them at least they didn’t steal the chips too.

[djFan71]

Ngl I’d rather have OKC win it. I just don’t like these teams that have mediocre regular seasons and then get hot in the playoffs and win, like hockey. Just devalues an already devalued regular season.

Otoh will be really interesting to watch if Okc struggles now that they aren’t a front runner. Young team if they start playing off their back foot they could look a lot differently.

Still think Okc wins it though.

I want neither, IND as champion just feels wrong, lol. But having lived in Seattle for 20+ years, including when they were sold, I shall root against the Thunder til the end of time. So, go 'cers, I guess.

Don’t be too mad at them at least they didn’t steal the chips too.

They did! It's BS "shared history". They only left the name. That part really pissed me off.

[ConstableGeneva]

Yeah it was game 1. It still doesn’t change the fact that when another team/player does something the way yall like you’re quick to compare them to Celtics players.

I don’t see you saying anything about OKC needing to learn from the Celtics how NOT to CHOKE against this same Pacers team that we swept. (Maybe you said it after my initial comments?)

Again, when someone does something yall like you call our guys out, forgetting when those players do the same, but aren’t calling out those same guys when they falter.


I didn’t want Tatum taking those shots either, but it was said at the time, why do we have to keep loving on other teams vs ours. Of course we can talk about other teams and our love for them, but why the need to constantly bash Cs when appreciating them?

I don't say anything about other teams/teams' players 'cos I don't care if they do well or not. I'm not a fan of their team. I expect more from the team/players I root for. But everyone is different (as a fan) and I get that.

You literally commented on the shot Hali got as opposed to the side step 3s the Cs got. That’s what started the whole conversation. All I did was remind you that he won g1 of the ecf on that shot. You talk about how okc plays all the time vs the way we play the game. I just said about two weeks ago that it’s only mentioned as a way to criticize the Cs but not brought up when it doesn’t go well for the other team.

You weren’t the only one of course. That’s why I didn’t quote anyone, because it was multiple people.

Bottomline, I want Tatum and Brown to improve as much as they can for us to WIN. Winning is the only important thing. Objectively speaking, other players are flawed too and make the mistakes our stars make. But I don't care about them. I care about whether or not our stars perform to the best of their abilities for us to WIN. I won't comment about other players' flaws much 'cos I don't **** care about their team. I don't know how else to explain it.

If this is an unreasonable stance as a fan, then *shrug*.

[Shak_Celts]

I don't say anything about other teams/teams' players 'cos I don't care if they do well or not. I'm not a fan of their team. I expect more from the team/players I root for. But everyone is different (as a fan) and I get that.

You literally commented on the shot Hali got as opposed to the side step 3s the Cs got. That’s what started the whole conversation. All I did was remind you that he won g1 of the ecf on that shot. You talk about how okc plays all the time vs the way we play the game. I just said about two weeks ago that it’s only mentioned as a way to criticize the Cs but not brought up when it doesn’t go well for the other team.

You weren’t the only one of course. That’s why I didn’t quote anyone, because it was multiple people.

Bottomline, I want Tatum and Brown to improve as much as they can for us to WIN. Winning is the only important thing. Objectively speaking, other players are flawed too and make the mistakes our stars make. But I don't care about them. I care about whether or not our stars perform to the best of their abilities for us to WIN. I won't comment about other players' flaws much 'cos I don't **** care about their team. I don't know how else to explain it.

If this is an unreasonable stance as a fan, then *shrug*.

The unreasonable stance is ONLY speaking on other players good and be quiet when they make the same mistakes. Not even simply saying how good those teams and players are, you guys say the Celtics should be more like them or I wish Celtics would follow their lead.

Hali took a good shot to win but he won a game on a terrible step back from a fumble a couple weeks ago.

You can say whatever you want, but so can I, and I’m tired of all the love other teams and players get but no one says a word about the those same teams doing the same bad stuff Cs players do.

I’m saying it now, so I’ll have to wait and see if people still say it, but I guarantee people would say, if OKC wins, how GREAT a coach okc has as opposed to Joe as if he didn’t make TERRIBLE decisions in game 1! You can take many games both of those teams have lost and or even stole/won and show how the coach made bad/wrong decisions.

Everybody is great when the Celtics don’t win. We beat the same amazing Pacers team last season, but they were somehow bad when we played them… you know our “cake walk?”

Again, it’s not just you, but why are these team and players gushed over when they do well and we don’t, but no one talks about how they do the same trash things we do? All I had to do is remind you of that same terrible shot, that Hali happened to make, and we had to have this entire convo. You started the tangent.

I actually like Pacers and OKC too, they both deserve to be where they are. I just don’t feel the need to puff them up while dragging the Celtics.


All Celtics fans want most of the players to get better, that’s really a moot point.

[ConstableGeneva]

You literally commented on the shot Hali got as opposed to the side step 3s the Cs got. That’s what started the whole conversation. All I did was remind you that he won g1 of the ecf on that shot. You talk about how okc plays all the time vs the way we play the game. I just said about two weeks ago that it’s only mentioned as a way to criticize the Cs but not brought up when it doesn’t go well for the other team.

You weren’t the only one of course. That’s why I didn’t quote anyone, because it was multiple people.

Bottomline, I want Tatum and Brown to improve as much as they can for us to WIN. Winning is the only important thing. Objectively speaking, other players are flawed too and make the mistakes our stars make. But I don't care about them. I care about whether or not our stars perform to the best of their abilities for us to WIN. I won't comment about other players' flaws much 'cos I don't **** care about their team. I don't know how else to explain it.

If this is an unreasonable stance as a fan, then *shrug*.

The unreasonable stance is ONLY speaking on other players good and be quiet when they make the same mistakes. Not even simply saying how good those teams and players are, you guys say the Celtics should be more like them or I wish Celtics would follow their lead.

Hali took a good shot to win but he won a game on a terrible step back from a fumble a couple weeks ago.

You can say whatever you want, but so can I, and I’m tired of all the love other teams and players get but no one says a word about the those same teams doing the same bad stuff Cs players do.

I’m saying it now, so I’ll have to wait and see if people still say it, but I guarantee people would say, if OKC wins, how GREAT a coach okc has as opposed to Joe as if he didn’t make TERRIBLE decisions in game 1! You can take many games both of those teams have lost and or even stole/won and show how the coach made bad/wrong decisions.

Everybody is great when the Celtics don’t win. We beat the same amazing Pacers team last season, but they were somehow bad when we played them… you know our “cake walk?”

Again, it’s not just you, but why are these team and players gushed over when they do well and we don’t, but no one talks about how they do the same trash things we do? All I had to do is remind you of that same terrible shot, that Hali happened to make, and we had to have this entire convo. You started the tangent.

I actually like Pacers and OKC too, they both deserve to be where they are. I just don’t feel the need to puff them up while dragging the Celtics.


All Celtics fans want most of the players to get better, that’s really a moot point.

We are different. And that's fine. If you think of "us" as worse fans, that's fine too. Too each their own. You can voice your opinion, no one's stopping you. But you also can't expect every other fan to think exactly like you.

[Floody100]

Exactly this. There are 29 other coaches and yet we have only one. I guess not criticizing the others is some sort of Morale victory for Joe stans. I mean what does any other coaches' flaws have to do with Joe. Sounds like "let's bring down as many other coaches to Joe's level because we can't raise coach Joe's level of coaching"

Not shocked you haven’t figured it out yet but you are the Joe stan you goof

Last I checked, there were 37 votes to not extend Joe. And only 162 to keep.

I'm so proud to lead the charge of thirty six other voters. But we are all just couched potatoes and you obviously are the expert.

We’re 3 weeks removed from the season ending & you still manage to make it about Joe after every playoff game since. You’ve become the obsessed ex.

[Fierce1]

Maybe, it is continuity, problem here is that I truly believe C's could've had 2 titles. I really believe it. Instead, 1 title and 2 very disappointing outings.

I don't think Cs beat Nugs in 2023.

And this season, the Pacers and OKC are just better.

When it comes to titles, I don't get greedy because I saw the Blazers in 1990 and 1992.

Just imagine if the Cs lost to Dallas last year.

We were worn out this season and hurt. I think we'd do much better if we had a healthy team.

Yeah, if KP was his normal self, I don't think we lose to NY.

But I don't think we beat Indy or OKC.

The inefficiency and low bball IQ will be taken advantage of by these 2 teams in the finals.

[Floody100]

Exactly this. There are 29 other coaches and yet we have only one. I guess not criticizing the others is some sort of Morale victory for Joe stans. I mean what does any other coaches' flaws have to do with Joe. Sounds like "let's bring down as many other coaches to Joe's level because we can't raise coach Joe's level of coaching"

Not shocked you haven’t figured it out yet but you are the Joe stan you goof

Last I checked, there were 37 votes to not extend Joe. And only 16 to keep.

I'm so proud to lead the charge of thirty six other voters. But we are all just couch potatoes and you obviously are the expert.

But on that subject there have been many well rounded rebuttals against the theory of Joe being a good coach. Some have had extremely well put theories balanced out with many clear cut facts to support their assertions on Joe. Some have used excellent analytics when necessary. Certainly more articulate and accurate than me. and YET never do I see you or most Joe supporters come back with anything other than "Joe is the winningest coach in the regular season" etc.. season Or "Joe won a title so Joe must be great". All in all sounding very Couch Potato and casual with absolutely no detailed or analytic response to the examples used against Joe. But instead, it is just the almost middle school level of demeaning someone's opinion like a "Couch Potato" or "Goofy" Like the one's who do think Joe is good are somehow better in anyway because..erhh ..They say so.

Perhaps in year or 2, you too will conveniently disappear when the evidence becomes so overwhelming against Joe. Whatever. I will still be here.

Most of these “detailed or analytic reponse” are nothing more than a biased opinion.

I just saw a second year coach help us win our first championship in 16 years. I don’t need a “detailed or analytic response” to know I’d like to keep that guy as our head coach.