Trade Ideas Thread

[greenroom31]

Boogie should come to Boston.

I'd love that but can't imagine it happening. I think they want to get Rondo to pair with Boogie, not the opposite.

[greenroom31]

Here's a crazy idea for a trade with Minnesota:

Boston trades: Olynyk, Thornton, Bass, Anthony, Bogans ($5.3M), TPE ($4.3M), 3 1st rounders ($31.1 million total salary)
Boston gets: Brewer, Martin, Budinger, Barea, Love ($36.7 million total salary)
Boston rationale: Boston takes all the crappy salaries that Minnesota has on the books to get Love, and trades away all it's dead money, Olynyk and 1st rounders. The good news is that almost all of Minnesota's contracts are off the books in 2 years.

Minnesota trades: Brewer, Martin, Budinger, Barea, Love ($36.7 million total salary)
Minnesota gets: Olynyk, Thornton, Bass, Anthony, Bogans ($5.3M), TPE ($4.3M), 3 1st rounders ($31.1 million total salary)
Minnesota rationale: Dump a massive amount of salary, get a nice prospect in Olynyk and short term guys in Bass and Thornton who can help contribute... not to mention the 3 1st rounders.

This deal couldn't be done for about a month (rules for Thornton) but it would explain Boston's interest in acquiring more expiring contracts and TPEs. Just a thought.

[KJandHondo35]

So Boogie thinks Rondo is the best PG in the league... just saying.

IF (and that's a big if) we end up trading Rondo, I think Sacramento is a likely destination.

That said, I believe that a Rondo trade would only happen if Ainge believes he can't get any other quality players to come here at the trade deadline or possibly even next offseason, and decides to go for a full, muti-year rebuild... not something I'm rooting for.

I agree, I just thought it was VERY interesting because A) that wasn't even the question, it was "who do you think the best Player in the league is" (which understandably is a weird/easy question bc its LeBron, so he might have thought its gotta be PG because that requires a little thought) and B) you would assume he would just go with Wall because they were teammates and he was an All-Star last season so its justifiable. But instead went with Rondo and acted very coy in the part where Bill asked him about the Rumors of Rondo and him playing together… It’s the offseason, I’m bored, thought it was somewhat worthy to report, and very sick of talking about Smarts SL performance…

On the trade however, it seems DA is easily in the driver seat and the pressure would be IMO on the Kings to get a 3rd team involved to send something additional over here, especially if we are trading the best PG in the NBA to them. Because the only person they have of interest is McLemore who still is fairly risky even if he has huge potential and their picks are extremely limited/restricted so we need more than that.

[mrknowitall215]

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

[CelticFaninLBC]

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

What would it take to get MKG and Biyombo?

[mrknowitall215]

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

What would it take to get MKG and Biyombo?

It would probably take Marcus Smart & Kelly Olynyk to get MKG...

...and probably just Marcus Smart for Biyombo

Neither am I sure are 'realistic', but if you asking me, that's the only deals that would entice me

Now, back to the topic on hand...

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

[KJandHondo35]

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

What would it take to get MKG and Biyombo?

It would probably take Marcus Smart & Kelly Olynyk to get MKG...

...and probably just Marcus Smart for Biyombo

Neither am I sure are 'realistic', but if you asking me, that's the only deals that would entice me

Now, back to the topic on hand...

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

I would think Green for either one of MKG/Biz are realistic and that’s what I think it would take. His salary is looking like a steal (esp. when you consider CHA offered a max to Gordon for the same stat line) and he’s a solid if not above average wing defender entering his prime.

[mrknowitall215]

What would it take to get MKG and Biyombo?

It would probably take Marcus Smart & Kelly Olynyk to get MKG...

...and probably just Marcus Smart for Biyombo

Neither am I sure are 'realistic', but if you asking me, that's the only deals that would entice me

Now, back to the topic on hand...

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

I would think Green for either one of MKG/Biz are realistic and that’s what I think it would take. His salary is looking like a steal (esp. when you consider CHA offered a max to Gordon for the same stat line) and he’s a solid if not above average wing defender entering his prime.

OK, thanks. I don't think Jeff Green is a realistic target for Charlotte then if the exchange would involve MKG or Biyombo

[CelticFaninLBC]

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

What would it take to get MKG and Biyombo?

It would probably take Marcus Smart & Kelly Olynyk to get MKG...

...and probably just Marcus Smart for Biyombo

Neither am I sure are 'realistic', but if you asking me, that's the only deals that would entice me

Now, back to the topic on hand...

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

Well, tough deal to make, since both sides are capped out... So I guess Gary Neal & another one of your young guys for Green. Can't see Boston wanting Gerald Henderson.

[mrknowitall215]

What would it take to get MKG and Biyombo?

It would probably take Marcus Smart & Kelly Olynyk to get MKG...

...and probably just Marcus Smart for Biyombo

Neither am I sure are 'realistic', but if you asking me, that's the only deals that would entice me

Now, back to the topic on hand...

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

Well, tough deal to make, since both sides are capped out... So I guess Gary Neal & another one of your young guys for Green. Can't see Boston wanting Gerald Henderson.

I believe Charlotte still has about $4 million in cap space after the Stephenson signing. Therefore, I don't think they're 'capped out'. Which of our young guys between Cody Zeller, P.J. Hairston, and Jeff Taylor would interest you the most attached to Gary Neal?

There's no interest in Gerald Henderson from Boston fans that might've once cherished his father's presence?

[CelticFaninLBC]

It would probably take Marcus Smart & Kelly Olynyk to get MKG...

...and probably just Marcus Smart for Biyombo

Neither am I sure are 'realistic', but if you asking me, that's the only deals that would entice me

Now, back to the topic on hand...

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

Well, tough deal to make, since both sides are capped out... So I guess Gary Neal & another one of your young guys for Green. Can't see Boston wanting Gerald Henderson.

I believe Charlotte still has about $4 million in cap space after the Stephenson signing. Therefore, I don't think they're 'capped out'. Which of our young guys between Cody Zeller, P.J. Hairston, and Jeff Taylor would interest you the most attached to Gary Neal?

There's no interest in Gerald Henderson from Boston fans that might've once cherished his father's presence?

The Celtics already have a ton of guards and pf's, and BasketballInsider has you guys with $1.5 million of cap space remaining. I suspect the trade targets would be Biyombo, MKG and possibly Vonleh. Doesn't sound like Charlotte wants to part with those guys...

[FlatearthZorro]

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

What would it take to get MKG and Biyombo?

It would probably take Marcus Smart & Kelly Olynyk to get MKG...

...and probably just Marcus Smart for Biyombo

Neither am I sure are 'realistic', but if you asking me, that's the only deals that would entice me

Now, back to the topic on hand...

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

U do realize Green is a far superior player to MKG and u're in a "win now situation", MKG tho still young, is entering his 3rd year and hasn't done ****, for the 2nd overall pick, he looks like a bust. Same goes for Biyombo, who's not a good match with Big Al(mostly on offense).. Green has 2 years on his deal, making decent money for the current CBA and is averaging 17/nearly6/2 on 43 %(not that good)... Talking bout overvalueing ur guys over other players...

[KJandHondo35]

I believe Charlotte still has about $4 million in cap space after the Stephenson signing. Therefore, I don't think they're 'capped out'. Which of our young guys between Cody Zeller, P.J. Hairston, and Jeff Taylor would interest you the most attached to Gary Neal?

There's no interest in Gerald Henderson from Boston fans that might've once cherished his father's presence?

To combine a couple ideas, how about a 3 teamer with CHA, BOS, and SAC.

SAC receives: Rondo, Henderson

BOS: McLemore, MKG, Biz, Jason Thompson

CHA Receives: KO, Green, Derrick Williams

What picks would you need to get that done... Appreciate the discussion.

[mrknowitall215]

What would it take to get MKG and Biyombo?

It would probably take Marcus Smart & Kelly Olynyk to get MKG...

...and probably just Marcus Smart for Biyombo

Neither am I sure are 'realistic', but if you asking me, that's the only deals that would entice me

Now, back to the topic on hand...

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

U do realize Green is a far superior player to MKG, MKG tho still young, is entering his 3rd year and hasn't done ****, for the 2nd overall pick, he looks like a bust. Same goes for Biyombo, who's not a good match with Big Al(mostly on offense).. Green has 2 years on his deal, making decent money for the current CBA and is averaging 17/nearly6/2 on 43 %(not that good)... Talking bout overvalueing ur guys over other players...

That's from a superficial point of view. Last year, Charlotte's identity as a team was on the defensive end as a top-10 defense (but middling offensive team ranked somewhere between #17-25). MKG was our best defender, and when he was injured for a month & a half, that was the worst stint of our season as we loss way more games than we won. Upon MKG's return, we went back to being a top-5 defense throughout the remainder of the season. Outsiders wouldn't understand how valuable MKG is to Charlotte as a lockdown and/or containing defender, but he's a valuable & vital part to our team. We wouldn't part with him for Jeff Green. I was only inquiring about Green because I thought he was a player around the league that could be available as a salary dump

[mrknowitall215]

I believe Charlotte still has about $4 million in cap space after the Stephenson signing. Therefore, I don't think they're 'capped out'. Which of our young guys between Cody Zeller, P.J. Hairston, and Jeff Taylor would interest you the most attached to Gary Neal?

There's no interest in Gerald Henderson from Boston fans that might've once cherished his father's presence?

To combine a couple ideas, how about a 3 teamer with CHA, BOS, and SAC.

SAC receives: Rondo, Henderson

BOS: McLemore, MKG, Biz, Jason Thompson

CHA Receives: KO, Green, Derrick Williams

What picks would you need to get that done... Appreciate the discussion.

MKG is almost untouchable as this point as long as defense is our team's identity. That's not a bad trade proposal though

[KJandHondo35]

I believe Charlotte still has about $4 million in cap space after the Stephenson signing. Therefore, I don't think they're 'capped out'. Which of our young guys between Cody Zeller, P.J. Hairston, and Jeff Taylor would interest you the most attached to Gary Neal?

There's no interest in Gerald Henderson from Boston fans that might've once cherished his father's presence?

To combine a couple ideas, how about a 3 teamer with CHA, BOS, and SAC.

SAC receives: Rondo, Henderson

BOS: McLemore, MKG, Biz, Jason Thompson

CHA Receives: KO, Green, Derrick Williams

What picks would you need to get that done... Appreciate the discussion.

MKG is almost untouchable as this point as long as defense is our team's identity. That's not a bad trade proposal though

I mean you could have virtually any BK pick, and Lance + Green I think gives you better defense from the wing than say Henderson and MKG not to mention the increase in offensive efficiency. I really like what CHA has done so far, grabbing Lance for 1M more than Avery and keeping the deal short to incentivize him keeping his head on straight... Green could put you guys over the top. I get MKG had a huge effect on your team for the good despite his supremely poor shooting hence pick(s) going your way. But he's still a development player and you guys seems to be positioned to win now.

[mrknowitall215]

To combine a couple ideas, how about a 3 teamer with CHA, BOS, and SAC.

SAC receives: Rondo, Henderson

BOS: McLemore, MKG, Biz, Jason Thompson

CHA Receives: KO, Green, Derrick Williams

What picks would you need to get that done... Appreciate the discussion.

MKG is almost untouchable as this point as long as defense is our team's identity. That's not a bad trade proposal though

I mean you could have virtually any BK pick, and Lance + Green I think gives you better defense from the wing than say Henderson and MKG not to mention the increase in offensive efficiency. I really like what CHA has done so far, grabbing Lance for 1M more than Avery and keeping the deal short to incentivize him keeping his head on straight... Green could put you guys over the top. I get MKG had a huge effect on your team for the good despite his supremely poor shooting hence pick(s) going your way. But he's still a development player and you guys seems to be positioned to win now.

I agree with almost everything you stated, but to us MKG is much more than just a development player right now. He's only 20 years old (not even legal age to drink alcohol yet) and he was the anchor of our top-10 defense. A lot of people gloss over his offensive deficiencies, but he actually scored at the same rate as the much heralded & overrated Harrison Barnes. There were very few net positive players on the Bobcats' roster last season, and MKG was one of them

Thank you for your answer though. You were civil, and explained what it would take for us to acquire Jeff Green from Boston. However, at the time, I think his pay grade in a exchange is a little too high for the Hornets at the moment. This possibly could be revisited before the trade deadline if MKG's jump shot that he's repetitively working on improving this offseason doesn't progress like we're hoping going into the 2014-15 regular season

[FlatearthZorro]

It would probably take Marcus Smart & Kelly Olynyk to get MKG...

...and probably just Marcus Smart for Biyombo

Neither am I sure are 'realistic', but if you asking me, that's the only deals that would entice me

Now, back to the topic on hand...

What realistic trade options from the Hornets would interest your fan base if we wanted to acquire Jeff Green?

U do realize Green is a far superior player to MKG, MKG tho still young, is entering his 3rd year and hasn't done ****, for the 2nd overall pick, he looks like a bust. Same goes for Biyombo, who's not a good match with Big Al(mostly on offense).. Green has 2 years on his deal, making decent money for the current CBA and is averaging 17/nearly6/2 on 43 %(not that good)... Talking bout overvalueing ur guys over other players...

That's from a superficial point of view. Last year, Charlotte's identity as a team was on the defensive end as a top-10 defense (but middling offensive team ranked somewhere between #17-25). MKG was our best defender, and when he was injured for a month & a half, that was the worst stint of our season as we loss way more games than we won. Upon MKG's return, we went back to being a top-5 defense throughout the remainder of the season. Outsiders wouldn't understand how valuable MKG is to Charlotte as a lockdown and/or containing defender, but he's a valuable & vital part to our team. We wouldn't part with him for Jeff Green. I was only inquiring about Green because I thought he was a player around the league that could be available as a salary dump

I haven't watched you guys, but could you show me some stats, that tell u were a top 5 defense? Like real stats, cause this is very surprising to me... I'm not bias, u're a lot more bias than I am. Green >>>> MKG right now, go ask any1, not a C's or Hornets fan, and MKG is still a prospect, who imo will always have trouble shooting the ball and he's been having health issues throughout his 2 year nba career, whereas Green has been a stud(knock on wood), except for that heart condition(he played 82 games last season). Anyhow, I'd keep Green, to be real with you, I think for us trading Green for a lesser player at this point, would mean Rondo is gone and we're in an all-out rebuilding. I'm still hoping we somehow make the playoffs... Hope dies last, you know.


edit: Tbh, I think if Green is on the Hornets alongside MKG, he'll start, which should tell you who the better player is.

[Slartibartfast]

I believe Charlotte still has about $4 million in cap space after the Stephenson signing. Therefore, I don't think they're 'capped out'. Which of our young guys between Cody Zeller, P.J. Hairston, and Jeff Taylor would interest you the most attached to Gary Neal?

There's no interest in Gerald Henderson from Boston fans that might've once cherished his father's presence?

To combine a couple ideas, how about a 3 teamer with CHA, BOS, and SAC.

SAC receives: Rondo, Henderson

BOS: McLemore, MKG, Biz, Jason Thompson

CHA Receives: KO, Green, Derrick Williams

What picks would you need to get that done... Appreciate the discussion.

So Boston is trading Rondo, Green and KO for that haul? That's horrible. Great deal for Sac (McLemore, Williams' expiring and Thompson's deadweight for a decent SG and an all-star PG).

[KJandHondo35]

I mean the Hornets were 6th in the league in Points allowed per 100 possessions and that was with MKG not being in 20 or so games and he was their best defender by far. More interestingly they were the only team in the top 8 without really any + defending bigs and really relied on MKG being able to cover multiple positions per possession. His concern is legit, but like I said the addition of Lance helps immensely and pairing him with Green who is pretty solid on that end is probably equal or better than a Henderson/MKG combo.
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