Rajon Rondo breaks hand, has surgery, out indefinitely

[sam_I_am]

I still think he punched something, but with his left hand seems odd.

If it was the trampoline park, a consideration here is whether or not that was against his contract... hence the potential lie. When Monta Ellis busted his ankle a few years back, it was obviously on a motorcycle. But since that was a explicitly banned activity in his brand new contract, it was a major issue. Dude went AWOL for a few days before his agent came up with the story that it was actually just a moped, which was technically not banned.

Ws ended up fining him $3m for lying and not using their doctors, and even sent some PIs down to Mississippi to try to dig up dirt on his story, as they could have voided the contract had the injury from a banned activity left him debilitated. Their GM Chris Mullin warned them not to go in like that because it would give them a bad rap among other NBA players and alienate their alleged franchise player, but it ended up not mattering that much because he healed well enough.

All food for thought with this current situation, be it a punch or a wayward bounce.

People rarely get boxers fracture of off hand. Boxers fractures rarely need surgery. Not all metacarpal fractures are boxers fractures.

[FlatearthZorro]

For what it's worth I had a boxer fracture a few years ago, I got into a fight and it happens when you hit somebody with the outside of your hand.

I broke my pinky knuckle, but its common that you break your ring finger and pinky when you get a boxer fracture.

I highly doubt rondo got this injury slipping in the shower, unless he fell on his side with his outer closed fist breaking his fall

I've had the same fracture too, doesn't sound good for Rondo, imo it wasn't in the shower...

I got that injury from a punch, but I broke only my pinky and it was kinda dislocated...

[sully00]

It sounds like the team went with "fall in the home." The shower incident came from further investigative journalism.


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[sully00]

I didn't say anything about a better coverup, or waiting til Monday to cover it up. I'm saying frame the story better so you don't invite speculation that you are covering something up. Say the truth, but do it in a way that makes people BELIEVE YOU.

It's all about framing the goddamned story the right way. It's about perception. I'm in favor of the truth but more importantly I'm in favor of creating the perception of truth. If you release a weird somewhat improbable shower fall story on a Friday and then say "we'll talk about it more on Monday" all you do is invite speculation. If it is a coverup, it's a bad one. If it's the truth, it sure doesn't sound like it. Like I said earlier, what's the upside to releasing it now. Either you just released a bad coverup or something that doesn't seem true. At least do it on Media Day to lessen the impact.

You think this surgery would get out? Guys have secret surgery over the summer all the time and it doesn't get out for months or even years later.

I guess but they leave the country and not have it done in a hospital.

I just think your coming at this the wrong way. The story is being reported as Rondo or the team told it. This was Rondo's story. He might have a motivation to lie because he violated his contract. That has nothing to do with the team. They have no reason to participate in a cover up or "shaping of the truth" because it really isn't their problem. Their issues are basketball related and this clearly is not basketball related. I think the team is simply relaying the explanation they were given by the player.

Helping get the truth out in a favorable light isn't their responsibility? That's one of their main functions as an organization.

If Rondo violated the terms of his contract (I don't think a trampoline park rises to that level), then that's serious business but something as a team official that I'd keep in house, provided I didn't want to use it to invalidate his contract. Again, this is a team. Unless you're releasing a guy why air dirty laundry? As long as he's their player, he's their problem so to speak and avoiding bad PR helps maintain his value league wide or at least tells other players and teammates that we'll do our best to protect our players. It's bad enough he got injured, but allowing him--VIA THE PRESS RELEASE THE TEAM PUT OUT--to either fib or make it seem like he's fibbing about it makes it worse. As a team, you do your best to get the true story out there, and I'm saying if that means not repeating the fib Rondo initially told you then you do that BECAUSE YOU ARE UNDER ZERO OBLIGATION TO SELF-REPORT WHEN AND HOW A PLAYER GETS INJURED IMMEDIATELY AFTER IT HAPPENS. I'm saying why not wait a couple days, do your own investigation, and then when media day comes you say Rondo got hurt last week at a trampoline park, broke a hand, had surgery, we're not happy, but it's an accident and accidents happen. Is that a cover up or is that keeping things in house? Do people run to the paper every time their parents or their kids or their wives screw up? Or do they try to work it out with them and get them to either own up to mistakes or make positive change.

In no way I'm I saying they should have covered this up or created a better lie (and there were so many better lies out there). I'm saying their duty to Rondo supercedes their duty to tell the world what Rondo told them right after it happened (if indeed that's what happened).

As I just said the team confirmed the surgery and stated it was a fall in the home. This was 24hrs later. The rest of it as far as the shower and the trampoline park is out of their control. That wasn't reported by the team.

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[Tenbomber]

"And in other news, Wyc Grousbeck reports that his swollen eye socket is due to tripping and bumping into a door knob."

seriously though, i'm not real sure what choice the C's had but to announce what Rondo told them. if he told them he fell in the shower, of course i'm sure as hell they said "really?" and then if he says "yes" what can you do? "hiding" it over the weekend is just playing with fire, suppose someone finds out and tweets it then all hell breaks loose, and for what? he broke his hand. that's that. however he did it, the result is the same, and the C's simply announced what was told to them. why should they try to doctor stories and "manage crises" like some sort of white house press dept. he broke his hand, he said it was in the shower, end of story. if it really was a trampoline then maybe we have a monta ellis situation but that's between rondo and the team.

Gotta say once again isn't modern technology just great?

Now....some **** spotted Rondo at a trampoline park (or didn't) and jumped right on the internet to tell all to everyone who would listen....another controversy!

I hate it for Rondo...hate it for anyone...there's no level of privacy anymore..... period....

This modern day world sucks !.... We need another smartphone or two so we can all take selfies of ourselves falling in the dam shower and breaking things....

HAHAHA......its all one big joke....

20 years ago, if this had happened to a player, there would have been a press release and that would have been that....Now everyone has to dig deep to find out what really happened....GOOD GRIEF.... YOU PEOPLE!

The end result is the same.....

[SuperDeluxe]

Rondo just f@cked the Celtics over by selfishly being careless in the shower or trampolining recklessly, 4 freaking days before training camp.

So, if it was an accident, then it was Rondo's fault. And you know this because you were at the trampoline park at the same time (or otherwise in the shower with him).

What happened to the highly plausible theory you regaled us with yesterday? It didn't make Rondo look bad enough?

[KGboss]

Selfishly being careless. Hahahahaha. Oh man now I've heard it all. This comedy routine should hit the road and open for Dane Cook. Both terrible.

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[NL41]

Yeah, Rondo was thinking about the team when he was goofing around at a trampoline park 4 days before training camp.

Just like Wyc questioning Rondo's coachability a year after Doc left wasn't worthy of a thread.

Just like Rondo ditching his team in the middle of a losing streak to party in LA was a non-story and in no way reflected negatively on his leadership ability.

[DelMonte West]

The proverbial fall at the house. Lol.

I hope he never roller skates again.

But yeah -- let's hope this really was a fall and not a thrown punch.

"And in other news, Wyc Grousbeck reports that his swollen eye socket is due to tripping and bumping into a door knob."

Well, Fab Melo DID get a concussion bumping his head against a door frame...

[Slartibartfast]

The drama never stops with Rondo. Unbelievable.

[SuperDeluxe]

Well, Fab Melo DID get a concussion bumping his head against a door frame...

Would also qualify as a selfish act in someone's book.

[Captain_Caveman]

Doesn't he have kids? Do any of you realize how annoying kids are? Dude probably got into a beef with his wife at home and just clocked the wall.

Celts gonna play along with the lie because... well... because what else are they gonna do? If he said so, he said so.

[return2glory]

This sucks that it happened. But this could help the team during the season. Smart should start with Rondo out. It will give him the playing time he needs right off the bat. The experience will help him when Rondo gets back. It will be exciting on the defensive end to see what Smart and Bradley can do.

[NL41]

This, combined with a possible Smart emergence as a quality starting PG/SG, could really lower Rondo's value to the 12-14 million dollar range.

Wost case scenario, Rondo's 13 million coming off the books could be a great way to go after a big-time center, and Danny has the option to stretch Wallace next year, which would free up at least 19-20 million when you include Rondo's expiring 13 million.

[NL41]

Another silver lining: If indeed Rondo's stock drops, but he still would rather play elsewhere, his lower market value could make a sign and trade of him easier for us to pull off.

Like perhaps a Rondo/Zeller sign-and trade for Asik and Jrue Holliday or something, Asik being a free agent next year.

[NL41]

Also, there is only one elite PG in next year's draft, as opposed to 3 top 10 PGs this summer.

So if a team like Indiana misses out on Mudiay in the draft, we might be able to sign-and-trade Rondo for Hibbert, if the Pacers are in high draft position to take a replacement center. Rondo grew up 2 hours from Indianapolis, so it might be an attractive destination for Rondo to sign.

Same type of scenario could play out with Milwaukee, if they miss out on Mudiay and want to trade a possibly re-emerging Larry Sanders for Rondo, with MIL drafting a top center to replace Sanders. Assuming Rondo would sign with MIL, which he might since they can over-pay him.

[Captain_Caveman]

This, combined with a possible Smart emergence as a quality starting PG/SG, could really lower Rondo's value to the 12-14 million dollar range.

Wost case scenario, Rondo's 13 million coming off the books could be a great way to go after a big-time center, and Danny has the option to stretch Wallace next year, which would free up at least 19-20 million when you include Rondo's expiring 13 million.

None of this will happen.

For starters, cap may go up to $70m next summer if the league implements the rumored "smoothing". Look at what Bledsoe just got. 5 years, $70m. You think Rondo might get $12-14m?

And a big-time center coming to a young team without Rondo on it? Do you really see Marc Gasol doing that?

Probably the only scenario in which Wallace would even be considered to be stretched, although a remote possibility compared to the idea of just attaching a late 1st or two to him to get some rebuilding team needing to reach the salary floor to bite.

[pac213up]

This, combined with a possible Smart emergence as a quality starting PG/SG, could really lower Rondo's value to the 12-14 million dollar range.

Wost case scenario, Rondo's 13 million coming off the books could be a great way to go after a big-time center, and Danny has the option to stretch Wallace next year, which would free up at least 19-20 million when you include Rondo's expiring 13 million.

No big time player is coming here without real proven talent on the roster.

[NL41]

This, combined with a possible Smart emergence as a quality starting PG/SG, could really lower Rondo's value to the 12-14 million dollar range.

Wost case scenario, Rondo's 13 million coming off the books could be a great way to go after a big-time center, and Danny has the option to stretch Wallace next year, which would free up at least 19-20 million when you include Rondo's expiring 13 million.

None of this will happen.

For starters, cap may go up to $70m next summer if the league implements the rumored "smoothing". Look at what Bledsoe just got. 5 years, $70m. You think Rondo might get $12-14m?

And a big-time center coming to a young team without Rondo on it? Do you really see Marc Gasol doing that?

Probably the only scenario in which Wallace would even be considered to be stretched, although a remote possibility compared to the idea of just attaching a late 1st or two to him to get some rebuilding team needing to reach the salary floor to bite.

Bledsoe just got 14/year, and is much younger than Rondo. Teams probably won't want to be paying Rondo 16-20 million when he's 33-34. Especially since he can't shoot, his game is substantially based on athleticism, he's injury prone, and is widely understood to be uncoachable.

Teams don't roll the dice on older, limited guys like that like they used to.

[NL41]

This, combined with a possible Smart emergence as a quality starting PG/SG, could really lower Rondo's value to the 12-14 million dollar range.

Wost case scenario, Rondo's 13 million coming off the books could be a great way to go after a big-time center, and Danny has the option to stretch Wallace next year, which would free up at least 19-20 million when you include Rondo's expiring 13 million.

No big time player is coming here without real proven talent on the roster.

That all depends on how much our young guys prove themselves this year. We have a lot of solid talents that could easily take a big step. Smart, Bradley, Sully, KO, and Zeller, and maybe even Young shows something.

Not to mention we'll have three of the top 33 picks in the draft.