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[CTCeltsFan34]

I love how the only accolade you could come up with for Amir Johnson is 10 year vet!
And Okafor can't play OFF BALL DEFENSE, his on ball is actually pretty good. Embiid is 7'2, 280 with a post game, 3 point shot, athleticism, and can block shots. He's also ripped. You shall see, Okafor will make you envious, Embiid will rip your heart out, and Simmons will make you switch allegiances. We also have Saric and Noel! I will warn you now, don't sleep on the Sixers.

Jesus this guy is a damn riot. Lmao

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[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

I love how the only accolade you could come up with for Amir Johnson is 10 year vet !
And Okafor can't play OFF BALL DEFENSE, his on ball is actually pretty good. Embiid is 7'2, 280 with a post game, 3 point shot, athleticism, and can block shots. He's also ripped. You shall see, Okafor will make you envious, Embiid will rip your heart out, and Simmons will make you switch allegiances. We also have Saric and Noel! I will warn you now, don't sleep on the Sixers.

Hinkie, you Magnificent Bastard!
You put together a HOF Frontcourt.
The Warriors are pissing in their pants,
praying they don't meet the Sixers in the Finals...

[Smog]

The idea that Philly could be good isn't crazy, especially if Embiid is for real. But not before they rearrange their roster. Three of their top guys are centers-only and Simmons can't shoot, so they won't be able to score on anyone as presently constructed. But if they manage to turn a couple of those guys into plus ballhandlers/wings, who knows? It's conceivable they'll be good.

[Captain_Caveman]

Do you prefer Genos or Patsys for cheese steaks?

They both blow. They are for the tourists. If I absolutely had to pick one, I would go for Pats. Better tasting and not endorsed by white supremacists (pretty much the worst kept secret in this city).

Jim's Steaks are God tier. John's Roast pork as well. I'm partial to Jim's (go to the one on South Street) but John's is **** insanely good as well, especially if you like pork (I don't, I get their cheesesteaks).

Jim's, getting hungry again lol:

Dang, Jarret Jack is a mean chef.

Jim's all day over Pats or Genos.

Speaking of former Warriors, I once saw Baron Davis' autograph on the wall at Jim's on South Street.

**** fatass haha.

[Celtic Esquire]

My lunch: basil and garlic spaghetti with fresh tomato sauce, Philly cheese steak spring rolls (they are a thing here, sold all over and high quality) and mashed potatoes with Irish butter and black garlic.

Do you prefer Genos or Patsys for cheese steaks?

They both blow. They are for the tourists. If I absolutely had to pick one, I would go for Pats. Better tasting and not endorsed by white supremacists (pretty much the worst kept secret in this city).

Jim's Steaks are God tier. John's Roast pork as well. I'm partial to Jim's (go to the one on South Street) but John's is **** insanely good as well, especially if you like pork (I don't, I get their cheesesteaks).

Jim's, getting hungry again lol:





That roast pork sandwich from John's looks amazing.

Thanks for the recommendation. Will definitely check out John's next time I am in Philly.

John's roast pork sandwich with provolone, spinach rabe and gravy:



Philly is on NYC/Boston levels of tasty food.

[GregB]

I was doing the math and trading Bradley for Noel or Okafor does make sense if we want to be able to maintain a max salary cap slot next offseason. Noels cap hold is about 10.5 million. Otherwise we would have to trade smart and likely renounce kelly to make it happen.

[Pacino62]

I was doing the math and trading Bradley for Noel or Okafor does make sense if we want to be able to maintain a max salary cap slot next offseason. Noels cap hold is about 10.5 million. Otherwise we would have to trade smart and likely renounce kelly to make it happen.

That's a win, win, win.

Win1- Get Noel
Win 2-Money for Griffin or Hayward.
Win 3-Improve Phili...or...beat Brooklyn

[GregB]

I was doing the math and trading Bradley for Noel or Okafor does make sense if we want to be able to maintain a max salary cap slot next offseason. Noels cap hold is about 10.5 million. Otherwise we would have to trade smart and likely renounce kelly to make it happen.

That's a win, win, win.

Win1- Get Noel
Win 2-Money for Griffin or Hayward.
Win 3-Improve Phili...or...beat Brooklyn

I just nerded out pretty hard. But heres the roster we could have while maintaining 30 million in cap room. Previously it was projected the salary cap would rise to 107 million but new projections are a 102 million.

Thomas $6,261,395
Smart $4,538,020
Crowder $6,796,117
Horford $27,734,405
Brown $4,956,480
Rozier $1,988,520
Mickey $1,276,346

Cap Holds:
Noel $10,961,225
#1 Pick $5,091,500
Yabusele $1,628,600
Zizic $1,192,200

That would put us at $72,424,808 with just enough cap room for a max guy. Then we resign Noel using Bird rights. I used the #1 pick salary hold and the lower cap projection. We could potentially avoid renouncing Olynyk if we get a lower pick and the salary cap rises closer to the original 107 million dollar projection. If we were able to sign Blake we would be pretty friggin stacked.

Starters:

Thomas
Brown/Brooklyn 17 pick
Crowder
Blake
Horford

Bench:
Noel
Smart
Brown/Brooklyn 17 pick
Rozier
Mickey
Yabusele
Zizic

Then round out the bench with the best vets you can sign for the vet min. Potentially sign Nader.

[ConstableGeneva]

^^ That team desperately needs shooting if they lose their two best shooters. Or we better hope Brown/Rozier/Smart all turn into average shooters at least. We already saw in the playoffs how difficult it is to score and space the floor without a healthy Bradley and KO.

[GregB]

^^ That team desperately needs shooting if they lose their two best shooters. Or we better hope Brown/Rozier/Smart all turn into average shooters at least. We already saw in the playoffs how difficult it is to score and space the floor without a healthy Bradley and KO.

That's fair analysis. It almost supports not trading for Noel at all. Especially if we need to pay him almost 20 million per to come off the bench.

We could keep Bradley and Olynyk plus keep max room. So many options.

[165bows]

^^ That team desperately needs shooting if they lose their two best shooters. Or we better hope Brown/Rozier/Smart all turn into average shooters at least. We already saw in the playoffs how difficult it is to score and space the floor without a healthy Bradley and KO.

That's fair analysis. It almost supports not trading for Noel at all. Especially if we need to pay him almost 20 million per to come off the bench.

We could keep Bradley and Olynyk plus keep max room. So many options.

It's tough to say because the CBA can change between now and then but it's looking like next summer's pursuit will be sign and trade oriented.

If you get the opportunity to sign Blake or whoever then it isn't that painful to worse comes to worst just renounce Kelly (or even Noel for that matter). So as long as they can credibly sign a guy without too much pain they can induce another team into a sign and trade to get something in return.

[ConstableGeneva]

^^ That team desperately needs shooting if they lose their two best shooters. Or we better hope Brown/Rozier/Smart all turn into average shooters at least. We already saw in the playoffs how difficult it is to score and space the floor without a healthy Bradley and KO.

That's fair analysis. It almost supports not trading for Noel at all. Especially if we need to pay him almost 20 million per to come off the bench.

We could keep Bradley and Olynyk plus keep max room. So many options.

Almost. I've been a Noel advocate even before draft night but didn't realize the cap implications then. He fills a huge need (rebounding, rim protection) and would make Amir more dispensable during/after the season. Hopefully plugging one hole won't make an existing one bigger (shooting). Maybe the smart play is to see how the first half of this season pans out before making any major moves that will affect decisions in the offseason (unless it's a trade for a certified star). This would be an easier call if we're already a contender and adding Noel makes us better than the Cavs/Warriors, but we're not and it doesn't. So basically ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

[GregB]

^^ That team desperately needs shooting if they lose their two best shooters. Or we better hope Brown/Rozier/Smart all turn into average shooters at least. We already saw in the playoffs how difficult it is to score and space the floor without a healthy Bradley and KO.

That's fair analysis. It almost supports not trading for Noel at all. Especially if we need to pay him almost 20 million per to come off the bench.

We could keep Bradley and Olynyk plus keep max room. So many options.

It's tough to say because the CBA can change between now and then but it's looking like next summer's pursuit will be sign and trade oriented.

If you get the opportunity to sign Blake or whoever then it isn't that painful to worse comes to worst just renounce Kelly (or even Noel for that matter). So as long as they can credibly sign a guy without too much pain they can induce another team into a sign and trade to get something in return.

Thats a good point about the CBA. Hopefully they announce an extension soon. It would be nice to know what are options really are so we have more time to prepare. If they do something like raise the rookie scale that could kill a bunch of our cap room.

[BlackThatch]

I was doing the math and trading Bradley for Noel or Okafor does make sense if we want to be able to maintain a max salary cap slot next offseason. Noels cap hold is about 10.5 million. Otherwise we would have to trade smart and likely renounce kelly to make it happen.

That's a win, win, win.

Win1- Get Noel
Win 2-Money for Griffin or Hayward.
Win 3-Improve Phili...or...beat Brooklyn

You're saying it's a win to ship off Bradley and keep Smart and Olynyk? What the ****?

[Pacino62]

I was doing the math and trading Bradley for Noel or Okafor does make sense if we want to be able to maintain a max salary cap slot next offseason. Noels cap hold is about 10.5 million. Otherwise we would have to trade smart and likely renounce kelly to make it happen.

That's a win, win, win.

Win1- Get Noel
Win 2-Money for Griffin or Hayward.
Win 3-Improve Phili...or...beat Brooklyn

You're saying it's a win to ship off Bradley and keep Smart and Olynyk? What the ****?

I could give a sh$$ about Olynyk. Yes. I prefer Smart or Bradley. I prefer Noel over Bradley. Bradley would improve Phili.

Win
Win
Win

If you disagree...great. That's what opinions are for.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Swapping Noel for Bradley wouldn't make this years team much better, since the shooting would suffer... However, if they add Hayward in 2017 free agency, Noel, Horford, Crowder, Hayward, Smart, Thomas, Brown and BKN 2017 pick is a balanced, deep, and very good roster. The team would still be lacking a superstar, but Ainge would have the depth and balance to make a deal to further upgrade the roster...

[GregB]

Swapping Noel for Bradley wouldn't make this years team much better, since the shooting would suffer... However, if they add Hayward in 2017 free agency, Noel, Horford, Crowder, Hayward, Smart, Thomas, Brown and BKN 2017 pick is a balanced, deep, and very good roster. The team would still be lacking a superstar, but Ainge would have the depth and balance to make a deal to further upgrade the roster...

I may be in the minority. But I have no interest in paying Hayward 30 mil per.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Swapping Noel for Bradley wouldn't make this years team much better, since the shooting would suffer... However, if they add Hayward in 2017 free agency, Noel, Horford, Crowder, Hayward, Smart, Thomas, Brown and BKN 2017 pick is a balanced, deep, and very good roster. The team would still be lacking a superstar, but Ainge would have the depth and balance to make a deal to further upgrade the roster...

I may be in the minority. But I have no interest in paying Hayward 30 mil per.

Understandable, but they'll need shooting, and it's doubtful they'll have money to spend in 2018, since Smart and Thomas will be due new contracts and Noel will likely resign for 20+ million in 2017.

If Griffin's the 2017 free agent target, then they probably shouldn't go after Noel. I highly doubt Griffin has interest in coming to Boston though. He seems like a flakey LA guy.

[GregB]

Swapping Noel for Bradley wouldn't make this years team much better, since the shooting would suffer... However, if they add Hayward in 2017 free agency, Noel, Horford, Crowder, Hayward, Smart, Thomas, Brown and BKN 2017 pick is a balanced, deep, and very good roster. The team would still be lacking a superstar, but Ainge would have the depth and balance to make a deal to further upgrade the roster...

I may be in the minority. But I have no interest in paying Hayward 30 mil per.

Understandable, but they'll need shooting, and it's doubtful they'll have money to spend in 2018, since Smart and Thomas will be due new contracts and Noel will likely resign for 20+ million in 2017.

If Griffin's the 2017 free agent target, then they probably shouldn't go after Noel. I highly doubt Griffin has interest in coming to Boston though. He seems like a flakey LA guy.

Yeah I think it's Blake or trade. Otherwise maybe we sign an undervalued guy to 10-15 mil per.

Im just thinking about how much we are going to have to pay Isaiah and our other young players over the next two years. Which is why I don't think it makes sense to pay Hayward.

[CelticFaninLBC]

If Griffin's the 2017 free agent target, then they probably shouldn't go after Noel. I highly doubt Griffin has interest in coming to Boston though. He seems like a flakey LA guy.

Yeah I think it's Blake or trade. Otherwise maybe we sign an undervalued guy to 10-15 mil per.

Im just thinking about how much we are going to have to pay Isaiah and our other young players over the next two years. Which is why I don't think it makes sense to pay Hayward.

An assets consolidation deal makes lots of sense. If they punt to 2018 free agency and don't resign Bradley or Olynyk, they could make a run at Cousins, George or Westbrook. I dunno if ownership and Stevens have the patience for that though.