Kyrie Irving Goodbye Thread

[amory87]

Idk why it's supposed to be upsetting now that we're getting real indication that he's going to do what we've known he was going to do for months now.

He doesn't want to be a Celtic. It is what it is. We aren't going to get where we want to go with players that don't want to be here, regardless of how talented they are.

Where did you see Kyrie say that he's gone?
All I've seen is fluff. And the following.:

Read on Twitter

If Kyrie re-signs it'll be out of nowhere. There's a ton of smoke that says he's not coming back, the new agent is just the latest. Even Ainge didn't sound like he was at all confident he's coming back, and this is a guy that said they were "engaged" a few months back.

[Parliament10]

Idk why it's supposed to be upsetting now that we're getting real indication that he's going to do what we've known he was going to do for months now.

He doesn't want to be a Celtic. It is what it is. We aren't going to get where we want to go with players that don't want to be here, regardless of how talented they are.

Where did you see Kyrie say that he's gone?
All I've seen is fluff. And the following.:

Read on Twitter

If Kyrie re-signs it'll be out of nowhere. There's a ton of smoke that says he's not coming back, the new agent is just the latest. Even Ainge didn't sound like he was at all confident he's coming back, and this is a guy that said they were "engaged" a few months back.

Absent Kyrie actually coming out and saying that he's gone.
I've got to stick with what he actually did say.

Watch on YouTube

[Green89]

Idk why it's supposed to be upsetting now that we're getting real indication that he's going to do what we've known he was going to do for months now.

He doesn't want to be a Celtic. It is what it is. We aren't going to get where we want to go with players that don't want to be here, regardless of how talented they are.

Where did you see Kyrie say that he's gone?
All I've seen is fluff. And the following.:

Read on Twitter

Too many posts about this change in agents meaning he's going to Brooklyn. ROC Sports has players on about 11 different teams and I believe they only represent one Nets player, Caris Levert.

[djFan71]

Be interesting to see how our D'Angelo Russell in Irving backcourt work

With Caris LeVert needing touches for a new deal. And Spencer Dinwiddie wanting to be the premier backup PG. Itll work wonderful

S&T. I speak it into existence.

[amory87]

Where did you see Kyrie say that he's gone?
All I've seen is fluff. And the following.:

Read on Twitter

If Kyrie re-signs it'll be out of nowhere. There's a ton of smoke that says he's not coming back, the new agent is just the latest. Even Ainge didn't sound like he was at all confident he's coming back, and this is a guy that said they were "engaged" a few months back.

Absent Kyrie actually coming out and saying that he's gone.
I've got to stick with what he actually did say.

Watch on YouTube

Hey by all means keep the dream alive for a few more weeks. Kyrie says a lot of things though and few of them are coherent, let alone genuine.

To me, that's just a shoe commercial.

[sully00]

I am not very optimistic but there is a possibility that Irving is running a bit of a play. Has Irving been told by the team that him acting like he is headed for the door would make it easier for Boston to acquire Davis without having to include Tatum?

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I must admit - the memes with Ainge getting left at the altar are probably going to be kind of funny. Don't let me down internet.

[Soulcatcher33]

Don't care where he goes as long as he gets the **** out of Boston.

[sully00]

Idk why it's supposed to be upsetting now that we're getting real indication that he's going to do what we've known he was going to do for months now.

He doesn't want to be a Celtic. It is what it is. We aren't going to get where we want to go with players that don't want to be here, regardless of how talented they are.

Where did you see Kyrie say that he's gone?
All I've seen is fluff. And the following.:

Read on Twitter

Too many posts about this change in agents meaning he's going to Brooklyn. ROC Sports has players on about 11 different teams and I believe they only represent one Nets player, Caris Levert.

The problem with this logic is that who changes agents, especially when agent is childhood friend, to resign with your current team? I never understood why guys who are re-signing with their team don't fire their agents first and save the commission. Maybe that is what Irving is doing.

[Slartibartfast]

Where did you see Kyrie say that he's gone?
All I've seen is fluff. And the following.:

Read on Twitter

Too many posts about this change in agents meaning he's going to Brooklyn. ROC Sports has players on about 11 different teams and I believe they only represent one Nets player, Caris Levert.

The problem with this logic is that who changes agents, especially when agent is childhood friend, to resign with your current team? I never understood why guys who are re-signing with their team don't fire their agents first and save the commission. Maybe that is what Irving is doing.

I thought agents were paid percentages of total salary, not one-time signing commissions.That's how they do it in Hollywood.

[Taget]

Kyrie signing with ROC Nation. Dude actually chose Brooklyn? Wow.

He did grow up when the Nets were still the New Jersey Nets. Probably more Nets fans in New Jersey than Brooklyn. Sad fact. He could make the NBA finals with the Nets and fans in NYC will still be more interested in who the Knicks plan on drafting.

Kyrie going to get quite the warm reception when he returns next season

Can't be any worse than what he's endured from the home fanbase the last few months.

Yes. Kyrie has been warmly supported and embraced by fans. Fans who helped him become a starter in the all-star game, bought his jersey and shoes. Fans who attended games and cheered for him. Doesn't mean you didn't have talk show hosts and callers who were naysayers. Or random people on the internet (like us here!) didn't criticize him. But Boston by and large has been there for him and if he re-signed would still be.

We support players who show us love. Even if they are flawed players like Antoine Walker or Isaiah Thomas. Or hell any second rounder who works hard and makes the team like Brandon Bass. But if they don't. There is hell to pay.

[grindtime22]

Too many posts about this change in agents meaning he's going to Brooklyn. ROC Sports has players on about 11 different teams and I believe they only represent one Nets player, Caris Levert.

The problem with this logic is that who changes agents, especially when agent is childhood friend, to resign with your current team? I never understood why guys who are re-signing with their team don't fire their agents first and save the commission. Maybe that is what Irving is doing.

I thought agents were paid percentages of total salary, not one-time signing commissions.That's how they do it in Hollywood.

Pretty sure they get a percentage of a negotiated contract. If you negotiate a 5 year deal with a team then you get your cut of that, regardless of if he leaves you halfway through the contract.

There seems to be a lot going on in Kyrie's life right now. I wouldn't normally think of an agent switch as that big of a deal. With that said, I listened to the Quentin Richardson/Darius Miles podcast with Tatum and Irving. It sounded like they were both very close to the agent and his family and the guy only represented a handful of players. It sounded like the guy really took care of the clients he did have and treated them like family. He represented all 4 guys on the podcast. Tatum, Irving, and Jonathan Isaac are his only 3 active NBAclients.

[cloverleaf]

And I'm sure those guys are the same ones (Rozier and Brown) that wouldn't accept their roles this year despite being horribly inefficient players.

LIke Kyrie was the star of efficiency when we needed him the most. He quit on us dealt with it. Ainge will try to bring him back but the reality is that he’s gone.

Even when struggling in the playoffs, Kyrie was still more efficient than all the young guys. Look at the stats.

Kyrie was #11 out of 14 on the C's for TS% in the post season, at .488. Meanwhile he led the team in usage at 29.8%.

[ILC]

Great. bye bye

[batabatuta]

Tbh, if him going to Nets or Knicks was purely because he wanted to go home, it would've been alright to me.
But I don't think that's the case. If it were, he wouldn't have said, in front of the fans, that he wanted to stay here some months ago.
To me this is more like he didn't really like the team and the organization and taking a cue from Lebron's style of giving up, he did just that.

It wouldn't go right by me because for example like Kwahi, even if he didn't approve of Toronto initially. He respected the team's interest and desire to acquire him and thus he played his heart out. Even if he did not win the championship and bolts somewhere in the East, I wouldn't have any qualms whatsoever because I knew he gave his best for Toronto even if it were for just a one year rental. Kyrie on the other hand, ugh.

[pac213up]

I hate to lose the asset but not the player. He is a #3 type guy on a championship team, #2 if you have a prime Lebron (does not currently exist in NBA). Cannot impact the game when he is not scoring (these types are often overrated). His elite handle holds him back as it is also one of his biggest weaknesses as the ball stays in his hands too long way too often. Ainge took a shot and missed. It happens but it is time to move on.

[TA42]

I hate to lose the asset but not the player. He is a #3 type guy on a championship team, #2 if you have a prime Lebron (does not currently exist in NBA). Cannot impact the game when he is not scoring (these types are often overrated). His elite handle holds him back as it is also one of his biggest weaknesses as the ball stays in his hands too long way too often. Ainge took a shot and missed. It happens but it is time to move on.

And what did it really cost us? Collin Sexton? The guys Ainge sent out with that pick were not going to be here long term anyway,

Like you said, he took a shot and missed. Luckily Danny has a shooters mentality and will move on pretty quickly.

[Gooner]

I hate to lose the asset but not the player. He is a #3 type guy on a championship team, #2 if you have a prime Lebron (does not currently exist in NBA). Cannot impact the game when he is not scoring (these types are often overrated). His elite handle holds him back as it is also one of his biggest weaknesses as the ball stays in his hands too long way too often. Ainge took a shot and missed. It happens but it is time to move on.

And what did it really cost us? Collin Sexton? The guys Ainge sent out with that pick were not going to be here long term anyway,

Like you said, he took a shot and missed. Luckily Danny has a shooters mentality and will move on pretty quickly.

Collin Sexton would be a great fit with guys like Tatum and Brown. It is a significant cost. But more importantly, it cost Boston Celtics their reputation, with that Isaiah trade.

Celtics are now viewed as a disloyal organisation led by people you can't trust. Not only did they trade Isaiah, but they've also used their young players as trade bait this season, even though they've done such a geat job season before.

Celtics will have a hard time getting any big names to sign in the future. And believe me, that played a part in Kyrie irving's decision to turn on them, because he never developed any emotinal connection to the organisation, and it would be the same with Anthony Davis, or any other star player that has other options.

Danny Ainge has developed such a great reputation by finessing other GM's, but in the end, he finessed himself. He was greeedy and he wanted so much, but now, he will likely end up with nothing. Nobody in the league trusts him anymore, and as long as he is here, Celtics will be viewed as disloyal organisation and undesireable destination.

[jfs1000d]

I hate to lose the asset but not the player. He is a #3 type guy on a championship team, #2 if you have a prime Lebron (does not currently exist in NBA). Cannot impact the game when he is not scoring (these types are often overrated). His elite handle holds him back as it is also one of his biggest weaknesses as the ball stays in his hands too long way too often. Ainge took a shot and missed. It happens but it is time to move on.

And what did it really cost us? Collin Sexton? The guys Ainge sent out with that pick were not going to be here long term anyway,

Like you said, he took a shot and missed. Luckily Danny has a shooters mentality and will move on pretty quickly.

Collin Sexton would be a great fit with guys like Tatum and Brown. It is a significant cost. But more importantly, it cost Boston Celtics their reputation, with that Isaiah trade.

Celtics are now viewed as a disloyal organisation led by people you can't trust. Not only did they trade Isaiah, but they've also used their young players as trade bait this season, even though they've done such a geat job season before.

Celtics will have a hard time getting any big names to sign in the future. And believe me, that played a part in Kyrie irving's decision to turn on them, because he never developed any emotinal connection to the organisation, and it would be the same with Anthony Davis, or any other star player that has other options.

Danny Ainge has developed such a great reputation by finessing other GM's, but in the end, he finessed himself. He was greeedy and he wanted so much, but now, he will likely end up with nothing. Nobody in the league trusts him anymore, and as long as he is here, Celtics will be viewed as disloyal organisation and undesireable destination.

This laughable.






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[crashfromboston]

Not going to bash Kyrie, he was never truely happy here. But Kyrie leaves and AD gets traded somewhere other than here. What does Danny do?

Its still not positive if Big Al is coming back or opts out. Free agents potentially leaving Kyrie, Terry, Marcus and Al. What do you do (or want Danny to do).