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Post#161 » by Turgon » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:13 am

Tacko can be instantaneously useful on the last plays of a quarter immediately after a timeout, whether defending or attacking. Hell, opposing teams might actually think twice before calling a timeout to prevent him from guarding the inbound player.

And I'm not convinced he'd be much worse defending the PnR than our other bigs. At least his wingspan can help him somewhat.

So, the question is: who would see more minutes on this team: Tacko or Yabu?
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Post#162 » by OldCeltics » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:20 am

Turgon wrote:Tacko can be instantaneously useful on the last plays of a quarter immediately after a timeout, whether defending or attacking. Hell, opposing teams might actually think twice before calling a timeout to prevent him from guarding the inbound player.

And I'm not convinced he'd be much worse defending the PnR than our other bigs. At least his wingspan can help him somewhat.

So, the question is: who would see more minutes on this team: Tacko or Yabu?
Waive Yabu, sign Tacko.

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Post#163 » by GuyClinch » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:22 am

Yabu getting cut. So Tacko.
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Post#164 » by Triple7 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:22 am

Turgon wrote:Tacko can be instantaneously useful on the last plays of a quarter immediately after a timeout, whether defending or attacking. Hell, opposing teams might actually think twice before calling a timeout to prevent him from guarding the inbound player.

And I'm not convinced he'd be much worse defending the PnR than our other bigs. At least his wingspan can help him somewhat.

So, the question is: who would see more minutes on this team: Tacko or Yabu?


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Post#165 » by ballup » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:23 am

Tacko is gimmicky like Boban. If you set him up right, he's unguardable. Now whether he can establish position against NBA players/defenses is a different story. Tacko isn't a stiff, but he moves aren't fluid either. Of course someone of his size isn't flying around the court, but he doesn't exert quickness for someone who looks so skinny. There's actual reasons why he wasn't drafted at all, but watching him play is amusing.
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Post#166 » by darrendaye » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:39 am

ballup wrote:Tacko is gimmicky like Boban. If you set him up right, he's unguardable. Now whether he can establish position against NBA players/defenses is a different story. Tacko isn't a stiff, but he moves aren't fluid either. Of course someone of his size isn't flying around the court, but he doesn't exert quickness for someone who looks so skinny. There's actual reasons why he wasn't drafted at all, but watching him play is amusing.


He seems driven. If the team believes the same they'd be foolish not to invest a spot for him. As you allude, he's not a guy whose going to be a starter minute center. For him to be worthwhile, he's going to need to exert a great deal of energy and should be used only short (3-4 minute) periods of time.
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Post#167 » by OldCeltics » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:45 am

ballup wrote:Tacko is gimmicky like Boban. If you set him up right, he's unguardable. Now whether he can establish position against NBA players/defenses is a different story. Tacko isn't a stiff, but he moves aren't fluid either. Of course someone of his size isn't flying around the court, but he doesn't exert quickness for someone who looks so skinny. There's actual reasons why he wasn't drafted at all, but watching him play is amusing.
He's very fluid. As fluid as any big we've had. Pure skill and natural ability.

Also much faster than anticipated.

The only weakness so far is strength and endurance.

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Post#168 » by LuckyLeprechaun » Tue Jul 9, 2019 2:51 am

I watched a lot of Tacko last year at UCF and I have to say he already looks like a much better player. He has gotten a little quicker. His free throw form is improved. He so far hasn't picked up the cheap fouls. I don't know where that hook shot came from.

The man is clearly highly coachable and is putting in the work. If he can stay healthy he is going to be in the NBA for a long time.

I just hope we don't repeat the mistake we made with Ben Wallace. Big Ben started his career on our summer league but we didn't value what he brought to the table and cut him. He had something special and while he never fixed the flaws in his game, he found a place and had quite the career.
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Post#169 » by cloverleaf » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:15 am

LuckyLeprechaun wrote:I watched a lot of Tacko last year at UCF and I have to say he already looks like a much better player. He has gotten a little quicker. His free throw form is improved. He so far hasn't picked up the cheap fouls. I don't know where that hook shot came from.

The man is clearly highly coachable and is putting in the work. If he can stay healthy he is going to be in the NBA for a long time.

I just hope we don't repeat the mistake we made with Ben Wallace. Big Ben started his career on our summer league but we didn't value what he brought to the table and cut him. He had something special and while he never fixed the flaws in his game, he found a place and had quite the career.


Supposedly scored in the 95th percentile on the SAT. Not a lot of American pro basketball players do that. But that quickness of mind will serve him well.
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Post#170 » by AKFO » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:20 am

I haven't seen anyone say this yet so please yell at me if I should temper myself; but thus far he Tacko looks like a potential starting level center prospect. My only real question is pick and roll defense, and I watched him get real low and look imposing in the last couple games. However, no one has really tested him in the way you'd expect NBA guards to. If he is quick enough to defend pick and roll, then the only thing stopping him from staying on the floor is his free throw numbers. I hope he's tested a little more in the games to come.

Could we potentially be looking at a breed of Rudy Gobert or a Modern Yao Ming? Or is his ceiling more of a Boban hybrid?
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Post#171 » by ballup » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:39 am

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ballup wrote:Tacko is gimmicky like Boban. If you set him up right, he's unguardable. Now whether he can establish position against NBA players/defenses is a different story. Tacko isn't a stiff, but he moves aren't fluid either. Of course someone of his size isn't flying around the court, but he doesn't exert quickness for someone who looks so skinny. There's actual reasons why he wasn't drafted at all, but watching him play is amusing.
He's very fluid. As fluid as any big we've had. Pure skill and natural ability.

Also much faster than anticipated.

The only weakness so far is strength and endurance.

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When I said fluid, I meant more in terms of shooting touch around the rim. For someone so tall, he always gathers after the missed shot instead of doing tap backs. Also, whenever he goes up for anything that isn't a dunk, he has a bit of a hesitation. Now that could be because he has a late release, but that doesn't sound very believable for someone so tall. There's no need to a a deceptive release when your apex is unreachable to everyone else on the floor

I think there are more weaknesses than just those two traits. Tacko isn't a good screener for NBA standards. He can still bump players, but it kinda seemed like players could see him coming a mile away and slip by him. He's vulnerable on switches and he can be small ball'd off the floor like Gobert.

There are some good details about Tacko's game. He knows ways to use his arms to create separation and he displays patience both offensively and defensively.
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Post#172 » by OldCeltics » Tue Jul 9, 2019 3:41 am

AKFO wrote:I haven't seen anyone say this yet so please yell at me if I should temper myself; but thus far he Tacko looks like a potential starting level center prospect. My only real question is pick and roll defense, and I watched him get real low and look imposing in the last couple games. However, no one has really tested him in the way you'd expect NBA guards to. If he is quick enough to defend pick and roll, then the only thing stopping him from staying on the floor is his free throw numbers. I hope he's tested a little more in the games to come.

Could we potentially be looking at a breed of Rudy Gobert or a Modern Yao Ming? Or is his ceiling more of a Boban hybrid?


If we put a line up of Time Lord and Tacko Fall, for 15-20 min per game I wouldn't mind.
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Post#173 » by JmacBronco68 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 4:54 am

LuckyLeprechaun wrote:I watched a lot of Tacko last year at UCF and I have to say he already looks like a much better player. He has gotten a little quicker. His free throw form is improved. He so far hasn't picked up the cheap fouls. I don't know where that hook shot came from.

The man is clearly highly coachable and is putting in the work. If he can stay healthy he is going to be in the NBA for a long time.

I just hope we don't repeat the mistake we made with Ben Wallace. Big Ben started his career on our summer league but we didn't value what he brought to the table and cut him. He had something special and while he never fixed the flaws in his game, he found a place and had quite the career.


I also watched him as much as I could at UCF and it drove me nuts how he always would bring the ball down and gather before he dunked. For the most part, he has cut that out of his game. He has also been bending his knees and getting low on his screens in these first two games. Good guards like Smart will love this.

Fans are comparing him to Boban but Tacko is actually a lot bigger in terms of height, wingspan, and reach and is more athletic. Tacko is also now up to 310, about 25 lbs heavier, and his 3/4 sprint was 3.03 vs. Boban's 4.48 (2009 Eurocamp measurements).
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Post#174 » by LuckyLeprechaun » Tue Jul 9, 2019 6:19 am

AKFO wrote:I haven't seen anyone say this yet so please yell at me if I should temper myself; but thus far he Tacko looks like a potential starting level center prospect. My only real question is pick and roll defense, and I watched him get real low and look imposing in the last couple games. However, no one has really tested him in the way you'd expect NBA guards to. If he is quick enough to defend pick and roll, then the only thing stopping him from staying on the floor is his free throw numbers. I hope he's tested a little more in the games to come.

Could we potentially be looking at a breed of Rudy Gobert or a Modern Yao Ming? Or is his ceiling more of a Boban hybrid?
I think he could get there but not this year. He still needs to improve his stamina and conditioning. The pick and roll stuff can be mitigated partially with scheme. There are plenty of starting bigs in the NBA today that can't handle it already. As long as they bring enough to the table in other aspects of the game, it is tolerated.
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Post#175 » by cloverleaf » Tue Jul 9, 2019 6:39 am

OldCeltics wrote:
AKFO wrote:I haven't seen anyone say this yet so please yell at me if I should temper myself; but thus far he Tacko looks like a potential starting level center prospect. My only real question is pick and roll defense, and I watched him get real low and look imposing in the last couple games. However, no one has really tested him in the way you'd expect NBA guards to. If he is quick enough to defend pick and roll, then the only thing stopping him from staying on the floor is his free throw numbers. I hope he's tested a little more in the games to come.

Could we potentially be looking at a breed of Rudy Gobert or a Modern Yao Ming? Or is his ceiling more of a Boban hybrid?


If we put a line up of Time Lord and Tacko Fall, for 15-20 min per game I wouldn't mind.


I actually could see Tacko, Timelord and Grant as a reasonable three-man frontcourt rotation within a couple of years.
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Post#176 » by Memokerobi » Tue Jul 9, 2019 6:41 am

If Boban has a job in this league and can be useful, there is no reason why Taco can’t be a rotational/niche player. We should definitely sign him whether its 2 way or not
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Post#177 » by ermocrate » Tue Jul 9, 2019 6:47 am

The Big Intellectual can play, we need to sign him for some years and give him a staff that works with him on moves and stamina, ha can be a game changer, I’ve never seen a 7’6” guy with that mobility.
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Post#178 » by Bohemian » Tue Jul 9, 2019 7:39 am

Are we offering him a contract? The kid still has a lot to work on, so a year between Boston and Maine would be amazing for him. I really hope we can sign him.
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Post#179 » by KevinGamble34 » Tue Jul 9, 2019 8:13 am

Do we have any roster spots left or would we have to waive someone? What about a 2 way contract?
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Post#180 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Jul 9, 2019 10:13 am

Happy Tacko Tuesday to everyone! Matchup vs. Bol Bol is today, right?

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