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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#161 » by Homerclease » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:16 pm

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Post#162 » by BigTrade92 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:18 pm

They need to assign Tacko, Waters and Romeo back to the Celtics and demote Wanamaker and Poirier to the G-League forever.
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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#163 » by Parliament10 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:00 pm

BigTrade92 wrote:They need to assign Tacko, Waters and Romeo back to the Celtics and demote Wanamaker and Poirier to the G-League forever.

Don't forget Ojeleye. Or is he a totally not worth it?
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Post#164 » by CelticsPride18 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:04 pm

BigTrade92 wrote:They need to assign Tacko, Waters and Romeo back to the Celtics and demote Wanamaker and Poirier to the G-League forever.

Wtf are you talking about Wanamaker has been solid.
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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#165 » by Slartibartfast » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:06 pm

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BigTrade92 wrote:They need to assign Tacko, Waters and Romeo back to the Celtics and demote Wanamaker and Poirier to the G-League forever.

Don't forget Ojeleye. Or is he a totally not worth it?


Semi has been utter garbage. Disappointed Brad didn't give Romeo a shot over him yesterday. He played literally everyone else.
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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#166 » by Homerclease » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:50 pm

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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#167 » by Gant » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:21 pm

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If this is true, get him out of here. Yesterday



That's an inaccurate article. What was said was that Tremont Waters is brilliant and challenges the coaches, which was not said as a clear negative.

Separate thought, though it was put to Ainge unclearly and ran together with the first about Waters, is that Romeo Langford is a great guy but very immature. Ainge disagreed and said Romeo was not very immature, and is just typically young and did need to be more of a professional in that sense, but also has a very good mind and is a willing learner that he's very excited about.
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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#168 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:24 pm

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BigTrade92 wrote:They need to assign Tacko, Waters and Romeo back to the Celtics and demote Wanamaker and Poirier to the G-League forever.

Wtf are you talking about Wanamaker has been solid.

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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#169 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:38 pm

CelticsPride18 wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:They need to assign Tacko, Waters and Romeo back to the Celtics and demote Wanamaker and Poirier to the G-League forever.

Wtf are you talking about Wanamaker has been solid.


I don't get it either. Brad's been super savy, he barely makes any bad plays and is actually pretty darn decent on defense. I like him a lot as a back up.
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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#170 » by KumaJG » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:12 pm

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CelticsPride18 wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:They need to assign Tacko, Waters and Romeo back to the Celtics and demote Wanamaker and Poirier to the G-League forever.

Wtf are you talking about Wanamaker has been solid.


I don't get it either. Brad's been super savy, he barely makes any bad plays and is actually pretty darn decent on defense. I like him a lot as a back up.


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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#171 » by BigTrade92 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:11 am

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BigTrade92 wrote:They need to assign Tacko, Waters and Romeo back to the Celtics and demote Wanamaker and Poirier to the G-League forever.

Wtf are you talking about Wanamaker has been solid.

And I’m confused WTF you’re all talking about...Solid? Barely makes any bad plays? Uh what? :crazy:

He’s been absolutely terrible given the amount of minutes he’s been receiving. He’s easily been the worst backcourt player on the entire team and it’s not even close.

Wanamaker pounds the air out of the ball for 2/3 of the shot clock and half of the time either throws up an uncoordinated shot or dribbles into traffic and throws the ball away, like he did in succession last night.

And where is this “solid on defense” BS coming from? Are you guys actually keeping an eye on him? When he’s on the court he consistently gets lost on our defensive rotations and has to get bailed out by one of our wings.

There’s zero reason a second year 30-year-old player in the league should have a spot on the NBA roster over Tremont Waters.

Wanamaker is cheeks.
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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#172 » by cloverleaf » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:40 am

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CelticsPride18 wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:They need to assign Tacko, Waters and Romeo back to the Celtics and demote Wanamaker and Poirier to the G-League forever.

Wtf are you talking about Wanamaker has been solid.

And I’m confused WTF you’re all talking about...Solid? Barely makes any bad plays? Uh what? :crazy:

He’s been absolutely terrible given the amount of minutes he’s been receiving. He’s easily been the worst backcourt player on the entire team and it’s not even close.

Wanamaker pounds the air out of the ball for 2/3 of the shot clock and half of the time either throws up an uncoordinated shot or dribbles into traffic and throws the ball away, like he did in succession last night.

And where is this “solid on defense” BS coming from? Are you guys actually keeping an eye on him? When he’s on the court he consistently gets lost on our defensive rotations and has to get bailed out by one of our wings.

There’s zero reason a second year 30-year-old player in the league should have a spot on the NBA roster over Tremont Waters.

Wanamaker is cheeks.


I found it interesting when Danny was given the description of a player who was immature and challenged the coaches in a RRondoesque way, Langford was Danny's second guess--his first guess was Tremont.

And Brad has a .657 TS% on the year, so those uncoordinated shots must somehow be going in the basket.
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Post#173 » by vct33 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:51 pm

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BigTrade92 wrote:They need to assign Tacko, Waters and Romeo back to the Celtics and demote Wanamaker and Poirier to the G-League forever.

Wtf are you talking about Wanamaker has been solid.


I don't get it either. Brad's been super savy, he barely makes any bad plays and is actually pretty darn decent on defense. I like him a lot as a back up.


Wanamaker and Theis are exactly what you want in professional role players. They aren't going to single-handedly win you a game but they also aren't going to lose you a game with dumb mistakes. They are pros. I like them both in our rotation.
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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#174 » by Bleeding Green » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:46 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
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CelticsPride18 wrote: Wtf are you talking about Wanamaker has been solid.

And I’m confused WTF you’re all talking about...Solid? Barely makes any bad plays? Uh what? :crazy:

He’s been absolutely terrible given the amount of minutes he’s been receiving. He’s easily been the worst backcourt player on the entire team and it’s not even close.

Wanamaker pounds the air out of the ball for 2/3 of the shot clock and half of the time either throws up an uncoordinated shot or dribbles into traffic and throws the ball away, like he did in succession last night.

And where is this “solid on defense” BS coming from? Are you guys actually keeping an eye on him? When he’s on the court he consistently gets lost on our defensive rotations and has to get bailed out by one of our wings.

There’s zero reason a second year 30-year-old player in the league should have a spot on the NBA roster over Tremont Waters.

Wanamaker is cheeks.


I found it interesting when Danny was given the description of a player who was immature and challenged the coaches in a RRondoesque way, Langford was Danny's second guess--his first guess was Tremont.

And Brad has a .657 TS% on the year, so those uncoordinated shots must somehow be going in the basket.

There is no reasoning with this guy. He wants to ship off Wanamaker so that they can start Tremont Waters' contract a year earlier than necessary. It's like if you are discussing science and someone announces they are a flat-earther, you just have to smile, nod and exit the conversation. Everything they will ever say is moot from that point forward. A Plus-1 suffices for a smile and a nod I think.
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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#175 » by Gant » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:14 pm

Updated Celtics rookie power rankings:

1. - Grant Williams. He almost dropped out of the top spot for a millisecond when Green was peaking. Now G Williams has increased the distance between himself and the others.
2. - Javonte Green. It wasn't his best week as his consistent offensive production diminished along with his minutes. But he's in uniform every night and could be put into any game, any time.
3. ↑ Tacko Fall. Tacko's strengths and challenges are coming into focus. When he runs and gets back, he changes the whole floor defensively. When they throw the ball to him down low, he scores. He needs a season's work on strength, conditioning, and improving his reactions on defense. Who knows how impactful he'll become if he succeeds? Just a tantalizing prospect.
4. ↓ Tremont Waters. Continues to looks like a true point guard. Size is the thing. The chaotic and sometimes selfish G league is not the prettiest backdrop for him.
5. ↓ Romeo Langford. Another injury. Sigh.
6. - Carsen Edwards. He's still looking for the right spots to take his best shots. Ultimately that's what it will all come down to with him. Defense is still below what you'd like, but improving.
7. - Vincent Poirier. Hasn't played much even with Theis and R Williams out. Hasn't looked comfortable in the few minutes he's had. The speed of the NBA game is a hurdle so far.
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Post#176 » by radcot » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:50 pm

Love this. Sticky? --- My two cents: Javonte too high; Carsen too low.
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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#177 » by Parliament10 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:40 pm

With Kemba down, I think that the Rookies have to come up.
G.Will as the PF? -- (It will probably be Ojeleye, though.)

Green could come up. He's a Combo-Guard, and a hell of a spark plug.
I thikn that you have to keep Wanamaker and Edwards as the ball handlers on the 2nd Unit.


2019-20 Proposed Roster
Smart - Brown - Tatum - G. Williams - Theis
Wanamaker - Edwards - Green - R. Williams/Kanter
(Waters) - Ojeleye - Poirier

Two-Ways = Fall; Waters
Assigned = Langford

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Re: Rookieville – Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, Waters, Tacko 

Post#178 » by Parliament10 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:08 am

Waters did good in his first NBA Game.
Tacko did well with the Red Claws, 18 Rebs, 16 Pts.
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Post#179 » by greenroom31 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:16 am

Waters >>>>> Edwards right now.
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Post#180 » by Gant » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:21 pm

Updated Celtics rookie power rankings:

1. - ↑ Tremont Waters. Crazy as it sounds, he may be the best pure floor general on the Celtics. The team was way more fluid when he ran the show. His defense against very potent players was outstanding. There have got to be conversations going on about whether (and how) to get him on the regular roster.
Put it this way- the Celtics won because Waters played; the Red Claws lost because he didn't.

2. ↓ Grant Williams. Mr. Intangibles only dropped because he got outintangibled by Waters. Someday those threes will go in. Meanwhile he does a lot of things right.

3. - Tacko Fall. Tacko had the Memphis Hustle announcers beside themselves as he towered over everyone on his way to 14 offensive rebounds. He's a project, but what a project.

4. ↓ Javonte Green. He didn't play much recently, as Semi Ojeleye and Brad Wanamaker have taken those minutes. Green is ready though.

5. ↑ Carsen Edwards. With his running mate Waters on board, Edwards looked more like himself, swishing a couple of quick threes. It's slowly coming together for him.

6. ↓ Romeo Langford. Didn't play.

7. - Vincent Poirier. Didn't play.

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