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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 

Post#161 » by reload141 » Tue Oct 1, 2019 10:59 pm

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I’m kind of neutral on him, I know he has fans here - but looking the part doesn’t always mean getting the part - I can remember when Harold Miner was the next Jordan.

It was a deep draft for shooting guards - Keldon Johnson and Alexander-Walker were interesting, too - and there was Bitadze still on the board as a 5. But they were basically right on Rozier in 2015, so I’m giving Langford the benefit of the doubt. And it’s very very early.

To me, he gives off a James Young sort of vibe. Hope I'm wrong about that.


Yeah. Good comparison.

Also, rule of thumb for me - never trust a man named Romeo. I hope I'm wrong too.


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Post#162 » by Andrew McCeltic » Tue Oct 1, 2019 11:06 pm

Joe Johnson is an interesting comparison. I think he obviously needs to fix his shot, but I’m also not sure he has the creativity and poise of Turner or Johnson as a ball handler. He showed it in college, but will it translate to the NBA? We’ll see - it’s possible he’ll start the season as the primary ball handler in the second unit.. Edwards/Langford/Jaylen/Grant-Theis/Poirier-Rob, if Smart and Hayward are on the wings..
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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 (B. Brown & Bohannon Waived) 

Post#163 » by 5InOfLouisville » Tue Oct 1, 2019 11:26 pm

Highly recruited kid out of high school who underperformed in college. Take the risk that his bigger body of work is closer to the truth and his college season is the aberration because of the broken hand

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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 (B. Brown & Bohannon Waived) 

Post#164 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Oct 2, 2019 1:13 am

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Last spot is going to Tacko. They are just wasting time at this point


That move would never have worked on Marcus Smart.

I'm not joking. The ball was down within reach, close to the defender, for quite a while.
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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 

Post#165 » by 31to6 » Wed Oct 2, 2019 1:38 am

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Celtics_History_Lesson wrote:R Williams listed as a forward as well as center.

Not that it means anything, but everyone wants to see R Williams and Fall on the court at the same time.

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44, 77, 99, some good numbers there.

45 too.


Theis weighs more than Ojeleye? The team was only told to certify height and age, not weight.



shocked Tat is only 6-8. These are bad numbers. Tat weighs less than Wanamaker. 208? That's less than his rookie season, IIRC they said he weighed 210 after he weighed 215 at Duke and that was too much too fast.


208 is like a Reggie Miller build. Daaamn Tatum you ain’t no 4!
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Post#166 » by Parliament10 » Wed Oct 2, 2019 1:57 am

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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 (B. Brown & Bohannon Waived) 

Post#167 » by Homerclease » Wed Oct 2, 2019 2:04 am

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Last spot is going to Tacko. They are just wasting time at this point


That move would never have worked on Marcus Smart.

I'm not joking. The ball was down within reach, close to the defender, for quite a while.

I would think that there is no reason to bring the balm down that low against a player of Smarts stature. But you’re absolutely right that a guy like Smart would rip that right out of Tackos hands.

What’s impressive is he made our big bruiser who is supposed to be Baynes replacement, look like a high schooler. Tacko has a unique skillset that very few people on the planet possess that seperates him from the rest of the fringe roster guys.
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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 (B. Brown & Bohannon Waived) 

Post#168 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Oct 2, 2019 2:05 am

Giannis was 196 as a rookie and 222 in his third year, up to 242 now..

So Tatum’s got a ways to go, I think you’d want him up around 220 ideally. See how he handles it.

Jonathan Isaac is up to 230 pounds, fwiw.
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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 (B. Brown & Bohannon Waived) 

Post#169 » by Shak_Celts » Wed Oct 2, 2019 2:07 am

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Season hasn't even started and already trashing first year player. :roll:

You realize they reworked his shot right? Sorry I am not ecstatic about what I saw

Luckily he is going to get a ton of work up in Maine

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Wasn't gonna post the vid, but yeh there's a strange hitch going on at the end me no likey.



there is a much longer video of him hitting a lot of the 3s he took. have a feeling if that was the first clip showed/seen people would be saying he looked good or already much better. I'm just going to wait for real action because I don't know about mechanics, but a lot of people said JB and AB couldn't shoot. Smart still isn't all that but even he is much better than his past. I can easily give Romeo a season or 2.
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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 

Post#170 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Oct 2, 2019 2:18 am

Do you remember where you saw it?
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Post#171 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Oct 2, 2019 2:22 am

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Found it here - he makes a lot more of them in this clip, from the corner - but the motion with his off hand is still there
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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 

Post#172 » by Slartibartfast » Wed Oct 2, 2019 2:25 am

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I’m kind of neutral on him, I know he has fans here - but looking the part doesn’t always mean getting the part - I can remember when Harold Miner was the next Jordan.

It was a deep draft for shooting guards - Keldon Johnson and Alexander-Walker were interesting, too - and there was Bitadze still on the board as a 5. But they were basically right on Rozier in 2015, so I’m giving Langford the benefit of the doubt. And it’s very very early.

To me, he gives off a James Young sort of vibe. Hope I'm wrong about that.


Yeah. Good comparison.

Also, rule of thumb for me - never trust a man named Romeo. I hope I'm wrong too.


I hated the Young pick. Loved the Romeo pick.

They are similar in the sense that they were both highly ranked in high school and both got drafted in the mid first after up and down freshman seasons.

But Young had way more red flags. A poor man defender who showed below average quickness. Could not dribble or finish with his off-hand. Straight line driver whose main weapons were his spot up J and an awkward runner. Very little ball-handling and playmaking.

His defense and lack of handle made me very pessimistic on him - his main asset was his extreme youth and excellent length, plus the form on his spot-up jumper.

Langford is a much more skilled player with significantly better physical tools. Wings who can handle, score and defend their position rarely flame out to the extent that slow, one dimensional guys like Young do. Even the knuckleheads like Lance Stephenson and JR Smith fared better than the better behaved slow shooters like Xavier Henry.

Of course he could flame out too, but I think his odds are significantly better than Young's.
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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 

Post#173 » by Slartibartfast » Wed Oct 2, 2019 2:29 am

31to6 wrote:
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Celtics_History_Lesson wrote:R Williams listed as a forward as well as center.

Not that it means anything, but everyone wants to see R Williams and Fall on the court at the same time.

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44, 77, 99, some good numbers there.

45 too.


Theis weighs more than Ojeleye? The team was only told to certify height and age, not weight.



shocked Tat is only 6-8. These are bad numbers. Tat weighs less than Wanamaker. 208? That's less than his rookie season, IIRC they said he weighed 210 after he weighed 215 at Duke and that was too much too fast.


208 is like a Reggie Miller build. Daaamn Tatum you ain’t no 4!


He's got Tayshaun Prince's legs and Dwight Howard's shoulders.
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Post#174 » by 31to6 » Wed Oct 2, 2019 2:37 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Giannis was 196 as a rookie and 222 in his third year, up to 242 now..

So Tatum’s got a ways to go, I think you’d want him up around 220 ideally. See how he handles it.

Jonathan Isaac is up to 230 pounds, fwiw.


Those are guys who grew a foot without gaining a pound in their late teenage years. Tatum's built like a colt but he may just be a light-weight wing (who turns out to be one of the best shooters in the history of the game or something like that)
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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 

Post#175 » by 31to6 » Wed Oct 2, 2019 2:39 am

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Found it here - he makes a lot more of them in this clip, from the corner - but the motion with his off hand is still there


Thanks for finding this -- I do feel confident that he'll become one of the greatest shooters in the history of the game (84%'s pretty good!)
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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 

Post#176 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Oct 2, 2019 3:36 am

Given how selective practice videos can be, I'd like to see a VERY high rate of makes.
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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 

Post#177 » by Afam » Wed Oct 2, 2019 8:28 am

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Post#178 » by Afam » Wed Oct 2, 2019 8:29 am

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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 

Post#179 » by Turgon » Wed Oct 2, 2019 8:55 am

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31to6 wrote:
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shocked Tat is only 6-8. These are bad numbers. Tat weighs less than Wanamaker. 208? That's less than his rookie season, IIRC they said he weighed 210 after he weighed 215 at Duke and that was too much too fast.


208 is like a Reggie Miller build. Daaamn Tatum you ain’t no 4!


He's got Tayshaun Prince's legs and Dwight Howard's shoulders.


I don't think those are the new official heights yet. Let's wait till they're announced.
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Re: 20-Man Training Camp Roster, 2019-20 

Post#180 » by BillessuR6 » Wed Oct 2, 2019 10:01 am

Good shooters don`t miss in practice. Romeo has a long way to go. His mechanics are still bad...looks like a slingshot… If he shoots over 30% from three this year it will be a success...

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