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What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling?

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Re: What is Jayson Tatums ceiling? 

Post#161 » by Higgs Boston » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:10 am

Looks like people forgets how good is PG just because this season he been inconsistent and had health issues. PG has had a lot of great games like Tatum against clippers.
Be more objective and less fanboys, Tatum still needs to improve to be as good as PG and has to do a lot more to be an establish star like him.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatums ceiling? 

Post#162 » by LuckyLeprechaun » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:38 am

Higgs Boston wrote:Looks like people forgets how good is PG just because this season he been inconsistent and had health issues. PG has had a lot of great games like Tatum against clippers.
Be more objective and less fanboys, Tatum still needs to improve to be as good as PG and has to do a lot more to be an establish star like him.
Tatum's #s this season are at or above PGs career averages and he is scoring more than PG did in his 3rd season while being a top tier defender statistically.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatums ceiling? 

Post#163 » by Higgs Boston » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:43 am

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Higgs Boston wrote:Looks like people forgets how good is PG just because this season he been inconsistent and had health issues. PG has had a lot of great games like Tatum against clippers.
Be more objective and less fanboys, Tatum still needs to improve to be as good as PG and has to do a lot more to be an establish star like him.
Tatum's #s this season are at or above PGs career averages and he is scoring more than PG did in his 3rd season while being a top tier defender statistically.


Nothing of that is incompatible with what I said.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatums ceiling? 

Post#164 » by Bleeding Green » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:42 am

Higgs Boston wrote:Looks like people forgets how good is PG just because this season he been inconsistent and had health issues. PG has had a lot of great games like Tatum against clippers.
Be more objective and less fanboys, Tatum still needs to improve to be as good as PG and has to do a lot more to be an establish star like him.

Sure, but this is a thread about his ceiling.
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Post#165 » by Gomes3PC » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:29 am

Best game of JTs career given the opponent and leverage.
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Post#166 » by jirrit » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:41 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:I'd take Tatum over PG any day of the week and you'd be smoking some high quality crack to think otherwise.
Dude's a beast and is a top 20 player in the league IMO. The strides he's made in his defensive game this season have been nothing short of amazing. I don't know if you guys anticipated him being this good on defense, but I sure didn't. I definitely knew he had the potential to be an offensive juggernaut though. Looks like he's already elite on both ends of the floor which only tells me that he has the potential to be an MVP in this league one day.

It'll be fun watching him lead the Celtics against the Siakam led Raptors and Simmons led '6ers for years to come.
Those 3 are the future of the Eastern Conference. (Giannis is in a world of his own)

p.s. I cannot waaaitttt for that Raptors/Celtics 2nd round series. That sh*t is looong overdue. That series is going 7 games without a doubt (if both teams are healthy). I also think the winner of that series will beat the Bucks and go to the finals.


Boston in six though ;-)
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Re: What is Jayson Tatums ceiling? 

Post#167 » by jirrit » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:47 am

Higgs Boston wrote:Looks like people forgets how good is PG just because this season he been inconsistent and had health issues. PG has had a lot of great games like Tatum against clippers.
Be more objective and less fanboys, Tatum still needs to improve to be as good as PG and has to do a lot more to be an establish star like him.


We’re talking about his ceiling. Compared to what PG was doing at 21 JT’s already better. Nothing to do with fanboys?
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Re: What is Jayson Tatums ceiling? 

Post#168 » by 5InOfLouisville » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:50 am

Higgs Boston wrote:Looks like people forgets how good is PG just because this season he been inconsistent and had health issues. PG has had a lot of great games like Tatum against clippers.
Be more objective and less fanboys, Tatum still needs to improve to be as good as PG and has to do a lot more to be an establish star like him.


On one hand, I don't fully disagree with you, but, if we are being objective, Tatum has been better than PG, right now, this season.

Sure, injuries, new team, PG has had a better career and proven he can do it consistently.... whatever.

But at the moment, Tatum is out-performing him. That is the reality of today.
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Post#169 » by Kaykoose » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:08 pm

akhan786 wrote:I’m telling ya’ll that final form JT (MVP caliber) will only be forced to come out if we trade away Kemba for a great big man and have Marcus be PG

JT is held back by a Kemba/Kyrie/IT type point guard and it’s not necessarily their fault. These scoring PG’s give him a safety net to not always have to dominate

Dream lineup in Tatum’s prime:
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Hayward
Star tough big man


Have you been watching the games and in particular last night's game? Kemba is clearly willing to defer to Tatum, which means they can absolutely play together. Kyrie would have never done what Kemba did last night.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatums ceiling? 

Post#170 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:55 pm

What he's doing at his age on both ends of the floor is kinda sorta ridiculous.

List of players in NBA history who averaged 22+ ppg, 2+ BLK%, 2+ STL% under 22 yo:
• Anthony Davis
End of list. Tatum is at 1.9 STL%.

List of players making 350 threes under 22 yo:
• Devin Booker
• Jamaal Murray
• Jayson Tatum
End of list

As soon as his beard grew out, his game went up to another level. Coincidence? I think not.
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Post#171 » by 3D Chess » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:58 pm

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While sharing the court with Leonard. That was the matchup Tatum wanted. He has watched tape on Leonard since high school, trying to model his game after the Clippers star. Tatum wants to be patient like Leonard. He wants to draw free throws like Leonard. He wants to move at his own pace — never rattled by anything — like Leonard.

Thursday night, Tatum just wanted to beat Leonard.

“He wants the challenge,” said Celtics coach Brad Stevens. “No one respects Kawhi more than Jayson and appreciates him more than Jayson. He’s going to play his heart out against him on both ends of the court because he knows if you don’t, you get embarrassed pretty easily. I thought he did a really good job. You just try to make those shots as tough as possible. When Jayson is able to (contest) shots his length is a factor.”


In my opinion, Kawhi is the best playoffs player in the league, so there is nobody better for JT to learn from.
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Post#172 » by jirrit » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:59 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
As soon as his beard grew out, his game went up to another level. Coincidence? I think not.


I don't call that a beard yet, though. :oops:
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Post#173 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:02 pm

jirrit wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
As soon as his beard grew out, his game went up to another level. Coincidence? I think not.


I don't call that a beard yet, though. :oops:

Holy ****, imagine if he ever grows it out comparable to Harden's. Sky's the ceiling as they say.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatums ceiling? 

Post#174 » by Slax » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:30 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
jirrit wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
As soon as his beard grew out, his game went up to another level. Coincidence? I think not.


I don't call that a beard yet, though. :oops:

Holy ****, imagine if he ever grows it out comparable to Harden's. Sky's the ceiling as they say.

No no, it's the patchiness that gives him his powers. Get a five-year-old with some clippers to halfhazardly style him, and he will win MVP.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatums ceiling? 

Post#175 » by Slax » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:43 pm

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akhan786 wrote:I’m telling ya’ll that final form JT (MVP caliber) will only be forced to come out if we trade away Kemba for a great big man and have Marcus be PG

JT is held back by a Kemba/Kyrie/IT type point guard and it’s not necessarily their fault. These scoring PG’s give him a safety net to not always have to dominate

Dream lineup in Tatum’s prime:
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Hayward
Star tough big man


Have you been watching the games and in particular last night's game? Kemba is clearly willing to defer to Tatum, which means they can absolutely play together. Kyrie would have never done what Kemba did last night.

Yeah, one of our biggest strengths as a team is that we have two players in Kemba and Hayward who can (and did) lead a team in scoring, but seem to have zero problem with allowing other players take the spotlight when it's more appropriate. It's hard for me to even remember a team with a fourth scoring option like Gordon Hayward who is proven to be capable of leading a high performing playoff team in scoring in the past.
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Post#176 » by Feed Your Head » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:52 pm

It really can't be overstated just how amazing it is that Kemba/Hayward have no issue taking a backseat to a 21 year old.

Imagine the confidence it gives JT that two guys who were their own franchises star players not only are okay with it...but are in his ear to take games over.
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Post#177 » by Feed Your Head » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:48 pm

Lmao the GB is hilarious right now. All the Tatum thread bumps, 95% of people saying he's on the brink of being a superstar, and the 5% still fighting it
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Post#178 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:54 pm

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Post#179 » by sam_I_am » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:23 pm

Higgs Boston wrote:Looks like people forgets how good is PG just because this season he been inconsistent and had health issues. PG has had a lot of great games like Tatum against clippers.
Be more objective and less fanboys, Tatum still needs to improve to be as good as PG and has to do a lot more to be an establish star like him.


Paul George is great. Last season he averaged 28 ppg on 21 shots at age 28 and was in the MVP discussion. Other than that, he has had no season clearly superior to the one Tatum is having now. PG fan boys need to realize how good Tatum is now....and how good he is actually going to be.
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Post#180 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:47 pm

I don't see Kuzma in this chart.
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