Celtics 2020-21 Roster, Assemble Using Current Info

[ConstableGeneva]

The move that will piss most fans off...

Keep everyone except Javonte, Semi, Kanter, and Waters. They will be replaced by the draft picks.

Kemba / Brown / Hayward / Tatum / Theis
Wanamaker / Smart / Langford / Williams / Williams
#14 / Edwards / #26 / #30 / Poirier

Two-way: Tacko, #47

We got even younger lol.

[ddb]

Ainge needs to make this roster better. They weren’t good enough this season. The team needs Tatum/Brown to continue getting better. And they need Smart because he’s their 3rd core piece. Those guys are the foundation. After that it’s fair game. Everyone is on the table. Ainge needs to make the rest of the roster better. Maybe that’s keeping Hayward/Kemba. Maybe one of those guys goes. Idk. Maybe Ainge trades up or out on draft night.

What the Celtics can not afford to do is be a tax payer team with a roster that isn’t good enough. Bring in Giles to help keep Tatum happy. That’s a low risk high reward move. Make deals to get more athletic. Guys that can play defense and make shots.
No more drafting talented kids that can’t shoot a beach ball into the ocean and acting like he’s suddenly gonna become Mark Price.

[leper-con]

Ainge needs to make this roster better. They weren’t good enough this season. The team needs Tatum/Brown to continue getting better. And they need Smart because he’s their 3rd core piece. Those guys are the foundation. After that it’s fair game. Everyone is on the table. Ainge needs to make the rest of the roster better. Maybe that’s keeping Hayward/Kemba. Maybe one of those guys goes. Idk. Maybe Ainge trades up or out on draft night.

What the Celtics can not afford to do is be a tax payer team with a roster that isn’t good enough. Bring in Giles to help keep Tatum happy. That’s a low risk high reward move. Make deals to get more athletic. Guys that can play defense and make shots.
No more drafting talented kids that can’t shoot a beach ball into the ocean and acting like he’s suddenly gonna become Mark Price.

He needs to bring back some veterans. I wouldn't mind Morris back and another change of pace guard.

[ConstableGeneva]

In case Hayward opts in and isn't traded...

I'm stubbornly on the "our bigs aren't the main issue" train so I'm totally fine with the Theis/Williamses big rotation. Placing my bets on YESLORD making a major leap next season. Dump Poirier into TPE. Get the best minimum vet banger big available for spot minutes if Kanter leaves.

MLE/minimum FA targets: Tyler Johnson or Justin Holiday (to replace Wanamaker), Garrett Temple or Mo Harkless (to replace Semi Ojeleye)

[ddb]

Ainge needs to make this roster better. They weren’t good enough this season. The team needs Tatum/Brown to continue getting better. And they need Smart because he’s their 3rd core piece. Those guys are the foundation. After that it’s fair game. Everyone is on the table. Ainge needs to make the rest of the roster better. Maybe that’s keeping Hayward/Kemba. Maybe one of those guys goes. Idk. Maybe Ainge trades up or out on draft night.

What the Celtics can not afford to do is be a tax payer team with a roster that isn’t good enough. Bring in Giles to help keep Tatum happy. That’s a low risk high reward move. Make deals to get more athletic. Guys that can play defense and make shots.
No more drafting talented kids that can’t shoot a beach ball into the ocean and acting like he’s suddenly gonna become Mark Price.

He needs to bring back some veterans. I wouldn't mind Morris back and another change of pace guard.

pass on Morris

[ddb]

In case Hayward opts in and isn't traded...

I'm stubbornly on the "our bigs aren't the main issue" train so I'm totally fine with the Theis/Williamses big rotation. Placing my bets on YESLORD making a major leap next season. Dump Poirier into TPE. Get the best minimum vet banger big available for spot minutes if Kanter leaves.

MLE/minimum FA targets: Tyler Johnson or Justin Holiday (to replace Wanamaker), Garrett Temple or Mo Harkless (to replace Semi Ojeleye)

eh not bad, but I just don't see much of an improvement on that roster. I think we could do much better. Although, if Ainge consolidates picks and ends up landing a rotation player in the draft then that could be helpful.

[ConstableGeneva]

In case Hayward opts in and isn't traded...

I'm stubbornly on the "our bigs aren't the main issue" train so I'm totally fine with the Theis/Williamses big rotation. Placing my bets on YESLORD making a major leap next season. Dump Poirier into TPE. Get the best minimum vet banger big available for spot minutes if Kanter leaves.

MLE/minimum FA targets: Tyler Johnson or Justin Holiday (to replace Wanamaker), Garrett Temple or Mo Harkless (to replace Semi Ojeleye)

eh not bad, but I just don't see much of an improvement on that roster. I think we could do much better. Although, if Ainge consolidates picks and ends up landing a rotation player in the draft then that could be helpful.

Without trading Hayward or any of our top 6, we couldn't do much with the MLE (likely less than $6M) and minimum vet exceptions. Those targets above are the realistic ones. Hey, if we can convince Gallo to play off-bench scorer for $6M, count me in. Or Nerlens Noel / Derrick Favors for the minimum. But that's just not gonna happen.

Ainge could scour the trade market using the late 1sts and a couple of our end-of-bench players. But what's the best you can get with that? 8th man on the team if we're lucky?
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[snowman]

The move that will piss most fans off...

Keep everyone except Javonte, Semi, Kanter, and Waters. They will be replaced by the draft picks.

Kemba / Brown / Hayward / Tatum / Theis
Wanamaker / Smart / Langford / Williams / Williams
#14 / Edwards / #26 / #30 / Poirier

Two-way: Tacko, #47

We got even younger lol.

I agree with about 90% of this. I think Wannamaker needs to be allowed to walk, and think Poirier needs to be traded along with the 47 and cash to a team with an exception to get him off our books. I would have it like this:

Kemba / Brown / Hayward / Tatum / Theis
Smart / Langford / Evan Turner / G. Williams / R. Williams
30 (Tre Jones) / Edwards / 14 (Saddiq Bey)/ 26 ( Daniel Oturu) / Harry Giles

[Parliament10]

The move that will piss most fans off...

Keep everyone except Javonte, Semi, Kanter, and Waters. They will be replaced by the draft picks.

Kemba / Brown / Hayward / Tatum / Theis
Wanamaker / Smart / Langford / Williams / Williams
#14 / Edwards / #26 / #30 / Poirier

Two-way: Tacko, #47

We got even younger lol.

I agree with about 90% of this. I think Wannamaker needs to be allowed to walk, and think Poirier needs to be traded along with the 47 and cash to a team with an exception to get him off our books. I would have it like this:

Kemba / Brown / Hayward / Tatum / Theis
Smart / Langford / Evan Turner / G. Williams / R. Williams
30 (Tre Jones) / Edwards / 14 (Saddiq Bey)/ 26 ( Daniel Oturu) / Harry Giles

I think that Hayward is gone; Opts-In and gets Trade for a Starting Center and some Quality Bench players.
I also Agree that we may keep most of our Draft Picks. I like the idea of staying young.

[ConstableGeneva]

Avoid the tax. Stay competitive. (Kinda) keep the picks.

1. Draft #14, #30. Trade #26 for future 1st.
2. Trade Hayward, Edwards for Gay, Mills, Metu.
3. Trade Kanter, Poirier + cash to teams w/ TPE.
4. Let Wanamaker, Green, Semi walk.
5. Sign 0-experience vet to the minimum (ala Javonte Green).
Total salary of $131.84M.

Kemba / Brown / Tatum / Gay / Theis
Mills / Smart / Langford / Grant / Timelord
#14 / vet min / #30 / Metu

Can't use MLE. No 15th man. No real vets aside from Kemba, Gay, and Mills.

This team sucks ass. I have come to the conclusion that we'd be hard-pressed to avoid the tax if we want to improve the team fr fr lol. And this doesn't even account Hayward NOT waiving the trade kicker.

[ConstableGeneva]

Send this to Zarren/Ainge. Hayward doesn't even need to opt in prior to draft night.

Avoid the tax. Stay competitive. Keep the picks. 2nd edition.

1. Draft #14, #26, #30.
2. Trade Hayward + Edwards for future 1st + TPE.
3. Trade Kanter, Poirier + cash to teams w/ TPE.
4. Let Wanamaker and Semi walk.
5. Acquire S&T'd player using TPE ($15M).
6. Sign non-taxpayer MLE guy ($9.26M).
7. Sign 10-year vet.
Total salary: $131,728,627

Kemba / Brown / Tatum / TPE guy / Theis
Smart / Langford / MLE guy / Grant / Timelord
#14 /Green / #26 / 10-yr vet / #30

So we essentially run back the playoff team that got to the ECF, replacing Semi & Kanter w/ TPE guy & MLE guy. Hard-capped but that's okay. We don't plan on paying the tax anyway, unless a star becomes available to trade for midseason. You have TPE guy and MLE guy as trade ballasts and maybe a couple of the young guys gain some value by then.

[Parliament10]

As of Thurs., Nov. 19, 2020

Current Rotation, 2020-21:
Kemba - Brown - Tatum - (XXXX) - Theis
Smart - Langford - Nesmith - G.Williams - R.Williams/(Kanter)
Waters - Pritchard - Edwards - (Green) - (Ojeleye)
Maine Red Claws = (Madar?), Fall

[robbie84]

Losing Hayward hurts, I just hope we don't start Smart now. Unless he reigns in his shooting, we need him to distribute and defend.