Official Celtics 2020-21 Regular Season Thread

[Tatumfor2]

Is it next season yet?

[ConstableGeneva]

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Unless he's arranged a buyout with the Cs, he can't just sign with another team, let alone leave the league. He's under contract for another year.

[JHTruth]

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Unless he's arranged a buyout with the Cs, he can't just sign with another team, let alone leave the league. He's under contract for another year.

I'm sure it would be a buyout situation. C's might want the roster spot back and cut their losses, Vinny might want to actually play..

[ConstableGeneva]

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Unless he's arranged a buyout with the Cs, he can't just sign with another team, let alone leave the league. He's under contract for another year.

I'm sure it would be a buyout situation. C's might want the roster spot back and cut their losses, Vinny might want to actually play..

It's kind of a win-win. Cs get a roster spot, Vinny gets to actually play and be closer to home.

But I wonder if he is fully bought out, does the $2.62M remain on the Celtics' books? I think it still does. I know Ainge said they're anticipating the team as taxpayers next season, but if they can avoid the tax, they will. Every dollar counts. And essentially paying Poirier to play on another team is not good business. Since we still have to fill in that roster spot.

[JHTruth]

Unless he's arranged a buyout with the Cs, he can't just sign with another team, let alone leave the league. He's under contract for another year.

I'm sure it would be a buyout situation. C's might want the roster spot back and cut their losses, Vinny might want to actually play..

It's kind of a win-win. Cs get a roster spot, Vinny gets to actually play and be closer to home.

But I wonder if he is fully bought out, does the $2.62M remain on the Celtics' books? I think it still does. I know Ainge said they're anticipating the team as taxpayers next season, but if they can avoid the tax, they will. Every dollar counts. And essentially paying Poirier to play on another team is not good business. Since we still have to fill in that roster spot.

Good point. It might stay. But then again what value is there to having a guy who doesn't want to be there grumbling at the end of the bench?

[ConstableGeneva]

I'm sure it would be a buyout situation. C's might want the roster spot back and cut their losses, Vinny might want to actually play..

It's kind of a win-win. Cs get a roster spot, Vinny gets to actually play and be closer to home.

But I wonder if he is fully bought out, does the $2.62M remain on the Celtics' books? I think it still does. I know Ainge said they're anticipating the team as taxpayers next season, but if they can avoid the tax, they will. Every dollar counts. And essentially paying Poirier to play on another team is not good business. Since we still have to fill in that roster spot.

Good point. It might stay. But then again what value is there to having a guy who doesn't want to be there grumbling at the end of the bench?

Trading him to another NBA team who can absorb him into TPE would still be the preferred route even if we have to send cash along with him. He can then ask for a buyout from that team lol.

[snowman]

At least this way, we don't have to use an asset to open a roster spot. Now just release Green, don't pick up Semi's option, don't offer Wannamaker a new contract and trade Edwards and all of the "experiments" will have worked themselves out and we have 5 roster spots open for 3 rookie 1st round picks and 2 vets.

[Parliament10]

It's kind of a win-win. Cs get a roster spot, Vinny gets to actually play and be closer to home.

But I wonder if he is fully bought out, does the $2.62M remain on the Celtics' books? I think it still does. I know Ainge said they're anticipating the team as taxpayers next season, but if they can avoid the tax, they will. Every dollar counts. And essentially paying Poirier to play on another team is not good business. Since we still have to fill in that roster spot.

Good point. It might stay. But then again what value is there to having a guy who doesn't want to be there grumbling at the end of the bench?

Trading him to another NBA team who can absorb him into TPE would still be the preferred route even if we have to send cash along with him. He can then ask for a buyout from that team lol.

I think, that if Poirier got/gets bought out by a non-American team, then we just do an NBA Buyout, waive him, and Stretch the rest over 3 years. It may make sense, for all parties.

[djFan71]

Good point. It might stay. But then again what value is there to having a guy who doesn't want to be there grumbling at the end of the bench?

Trading him to another NBA team who can absorb him into TPE would still be the preferred route even if we have to send cash along with him. He can then ask for a buyout from that team lol.

I think, that if Poirier got/gets bought out by a non-American team, then we just do an NBA Buyout, waive him, and Stretch the rest over 3 years. It may make sense, for all parties.

I'd go CG's route. Hopefully just wrap it into another trade and send the $ so we don't need to do another pick or anything. If not, we'd have to pay lux tax on whatever amount remains on the books. Either full amount this year or like $0.87M for the next 3.

[BK_2020]

Serious talk who on the FA market would you rather have than Wanamaker?
Guys like Dragic are priced out, so we are talking about guys like Delly, Mudiay and Trey Burke as our options.
I think Wanamaker is 100% coming back.

[ConstableGeneva]

Trading him to another NBA team who can absorb him into TPE would still be the preferred route even if we have to send cash along with him. He can then ask for a buyout from that team lol.

I think, that if Poirier got/gets bought out by a non-American team, then we just do an NBA Buyout, waive him, and Stretch the rest over 3 years. It may make sense, for all parties.

I'd go CG's route. Hopefully just wrap it into another trade and send the $ so we don't need to do another pick or anything. If not, we'd have to pay lux tax on whatever amount remains on the books. Either full amount this year or like $0.87M for the next 3.

Anyway, he's still a Celtic until he changes his Twitter profile. That's just how it goes.

[JHTruth]

Serious talk who on the FA market would you rather have than Wanamaker?
Guys like Dragic are priced out, so we are talking about guys like Delly, Mudiay and Trey Burke as our options.
I think Wanamaker is 100% coming back.

Among FA sure. But I think we're moving up to take Haliburton who will replace Wana.

[djFan71]

Serious talk who on the FA market would you rather have than Wanamaker?
Guys like Dragic are priced out, so we are talking about guys like Delly, Mudiay and Trey Burke as our options.
I think Wanamaker is 100% coming back.

I've been thinking that for a while. Waters or a pick is his biggest competition. If he prices himself past vet min, he's probably gone for one of those.

FA-wise: Teague is another on the too much pile. DJ Augustin maybe? Reggie Jackson? Wanamaker way better on D than those guys. It would be really if they wanted scoring punch. And either would probably cost more.

[ConstableGeneva]

Serious talk who on the FA market would you rather have than Wanamaker?
Guys like Dragic are priced out, so we are talking about guys like Delly, Mudiay and Trey Burke as our options.
I think Wanamaker is 100% coming back.

Depends on several other moves/decisions. But I wouldn't mind having him back for the right price.

If Hayward is back, I don't find the need for Wanamaker. Let Gordo, Smart, Kemba, Tatum, and even Langford & Brown handle the ball. I think the team needs a shooter in the mold of Robinson/Redick/Korver more.

If Hayward is traded, someone better than Wanamaker in his role may be coming back in the deal. I would prefer Patty Mills or Seth Curry for example.

[Parliament10]

I think, that if Poirier got/gets bought out by a non-American team, then we just do an NBA Buyout, waive him, and Stretch the rest over 3 years. It may make sense, for all parties.

I'd go CG's route. Hopefully just wrap it into another trade and send the $ so we don't need to do another pick or anything. If not, we'd have to pay lux tax on whatever amount remains on the books. Either full amount this year or like $0.87M for the next 3.

Anyway, he's still a Celtic until he changes his Twitter profile. That's just how it goes.

Trading him would be preferred, if possible.

[snowman]

We already have Wannamaker's replacement on the team. Marcus Smart !!! He needs to be the primary ball handler for the second team. Third team point guard needs to be drafted with the 26th pick. 14th needs to be on another wing 3&D. 30th used on a big to replace Poirier.

[ConstableGeneva]

IMPORTANT UPDATE: Vincent Poirier is back in France. (Or he just posted "Paris, France" on his IG story for no reason.)

Doesn't mean **** either way though lol.

[Shak_Celts]

I woke up mad all over again today (yesterday technically). I'm madder than I was the day we lost! I keep thinking about how DA and Brad haven't realized the Jays have BEEN ready!! I'm trying to see how many years do they have to play great in the playoffs, when they are in charge of the team, before they get a team built to win now!

DA said he thinks JB is ready for more opportunities or responsibilities (w/e), no crap Sherlock!! He was just as good as Tatum the season before Kyrie in the playoffs!! He plays well every chance he gets in the playoffs and it doesn't matter to him whether the team believes in him or not! He continues to go out there at a very YOUNG age and does his job even when there is turmoil within the team!

Tatum goes out there with all eyes on him and shines once again!! Out there giving his all for his team to doubt whether he's ready, AGAIN!! He showed he is ready YEAR ONE!!!!!! Out there bustin asses no matter the competition!!

Still, DA and Brad sit by at the deadlines twiddling thumbs, not adding help because of excuse after excuse! One minute it's because the team doesn't seem like they are a couple pieces away (FFS) and the next it's that they don't think they'd have time to work new guys in!

The Jays keep performing at top 10 levels in the playoffs and I keep thinking WTH do they have to do to give the impression that they are ready?? They aren't LBJ level but damn, they are championship level!!!! It's time for DA and Brad to open their eyes! Time for them to build around the Jays, surround them with a FULL championship worthy team!! Stop being afraid to put all the eggs in their basket!! We know they are young but every now and then young guys come along and just have "IT!" We lucked into two!! They didn't just do it in the bubble with a level playing field of no distraction, no travel, and no fans to jeer them. They have done it in the worst situations too!! They were minutes away from knocking off LBJ, carrying a team full of castoffs and bottom tier performers after all of the top talent was sidelined by injuries!! LBJ is right to be afraid of the Jays, too bad the GM and coach can't see it!!

I just hope they see it now, I hope they see those two were right when they were pissed about shrinking roles after the playoffs the season before last! I hope they see that they are close but need a full team with a staff fully behind them! If DA doesn't go for it this season, I'm going to flip my crap!!! Don't tell me about youth or not being ready!! IT'S TIME!! BELIEVE IN THEM!!

JAYS OR BUST!!! GO Cs!!!!

[Ernest]

Unless he's arranged a buyout with the Cs, he can't just sign with another team, let alone leave the league. He's under contract for another year.

I'm sure it would be a buyout situation. C's might want the roster spot back and cut their losses, Vinny might want to actually play..

It's kind of a win-win. Cs get a roster spot, Vinny gets to actually play and be closer to home.

But I wonder if he is fully bought out, does the $2.62M remain on the Celtics' books? I think it still does. I know Ainge said they're anticipating the team as taxpayers next season, but if they can avoid the tax, they will. Every dollar counts. And essentially paying Poirier to play on another team is not good business. Since we still have to fill in that roster spot.

I would think we hold all the cards here. He knows we are not going to play him and Ainge can make it clear he wants him to go. His window to play pro ball is only open for so long. He can't just wait a year. A European team can probably pay him close to what we are paying him right? So he could cancel the contract or take a very very small buyout. If not he waits around hoping we trade him to someone who might buy him out for more or try to play him. But I think he knows he is not an NBA level talent.

[Ernest]

2 thoughts on Wannamaker:

1. I disagree with the idea we don't need him (or to replace what he brings.) A vet traditional pg is always needed.

2. Let's hope he just wants to stay and will take a vet min contract

3. If not the dream replacement is hands down Rondo. Not sure why he would want to leave LAL though as he has a really nice role there, 20-30 minutes a game and can end games.

4. I wonder about taking a flyer on IT. Ok I get that he is not the traditional PG like Wanamaker is. But at this point in his career he might have to change things up. He would be hard to use in a lot of situations as he can't switch, but at the cost of free it might not be a bad little risk.