"We Tried So Hard, and (Haven't) Got so Far, But in the End, It Doesn't Even Matter" Trade Thread

[BostonCouchGM]

Celtics went 1/11 on non-open threes vs. BKN (10 taken by our top 4 players, NOT our role players). Why even handicap yourself by taking tough shots? Add in our love affair with midrange shots and penchant to walk up the ball, it's just not a blueprint for an efficient offense.

I'll never understand this Walk the ball up garbage---Playing right into the hands of the other team's defense....Tommy be rolling in his grave thinking about this.

they walk it up, like most teams do, because players are incapable of penetrating without high screens/forcing switches. It's boring and predictable but I can't blame Brad because everyone is doing it. The difference between us doing and others is our guys doing it (Tatum, Kemba, Smart) aren't as dynamic as others (Lebron, Lillard, Steph, Harden, Kyrie) and Brad has the wrong shooters on the floor surrounding them. So we a) lack the playmaking from our ball handlers and b) once the ball makes it to the eventual wide open guy, they aren't hitting the shot or even taking it which disrupts the offense.

Pritchard-Kemba
Nesmith-Smart
Jaylen-Semi
Tatum-Williams
Theis-Williams

once Brad wakes up and this becomes our lineup/rotation, we'll be a much improved team as this is our best starting lineup and gives us the best chance at winning regularly.

[FakeScreenName123]

for the realgm celtics podcast i wantt to do the mod of the week segment

[Feed Your Head]

for the realgm celtics podcast i wantt to do the mod of the week segment

I don’t know if Froob and djFan would have the spare time to do podcasts every other week.

[FakeScreenName123]

people here acting shocked that it's hard for us to get mediocre players are going to be in shock when, like, 4 guys on this team aren't in the NBA in 3 years.

[JediMasterRevan]

Podcast eh?

Swearing allowed? Some games swearing is the inly good words to describe

[FakeScreenName123]

i want to do a podcast segment called "Psycho Kevin" where we pick the most absolute mental insane bat **** loco off the **** brain thing we can find in a Keith Smith article

anotehr segment where we are all forced to admit Curmudgeon is right about something celtics related

f/m/k brad,danny,wyc

jared sullinger award for the most green glasses take of the week

etc

[FakeScreenName123]

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[SMTBSI]

The Celtics have exactly one second before 2025, and it isn't even theirs. No deal with any positive consequence will be possible without including at least one first and one of Langford, Pritchard or the Timelord-- unless you are moving Tatum, Brown or Smart.
Everyone else has negative trade value, even Theis, because he would be a rental.

Jesus do we really have only one 2nd until ‘25? I thought we had ‘21 and 22’ still damn well it’s gonna have to be Carson acting as a defacto second lol.

Yeah that's not accurate. The only 2nds we owe are '23 and '24. We have our own in '21 and '22, and from '25 on.

We also own four other 2nds. Two are the fake top-55 protected kind (useless for finding prospects, but useful as trade lubricant to satisfy the cases where you are cba-required to give "something" to a team in a trade, even if you don't otherwise need to).

We have a '23 2nd from DAL/MIA/HOU with super complicated protections, but at least some potential of being a useable pick.

Then we have Memphis' '25 outright.

So '24 is the only year we don't have a 2nd.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

[TommyForever]

Brown >>> Beal

If you can’t see it I don’t know what to tell you.

First of all how old is Beal? That should be enough to agree.

Has Beal been to 3 Eastern Conference Finals? Did he do it before he was 24?

Can Beal finish with both hands?

How’s Beals defense? Now compare to Jaylen.

Jaylen is way more athletic. Can jump off both feet, just left, or just right foot equally as high. He has a monster mentality. He is better than Beal.

Maybe some of you just like the bigger name?

I’d love Beal for Kemba. That’s a deal in dream only.

[GoCeltics123]

Yay or nay: make a seperate thread for the Celtics RealGM podcast?

[SMTBSI]

Actually, that '23 DAL/MIA/HOU pick could be good. We get first crack at HOU, protected for 31-32. So if they're in a rebuild, but not one of the two worst teams in the league, it could easily be a pick in the 30's.

We got it, and the '25MEM2nd, in the Kanter trade where we sent out Bane (#30). If it comes in mid 30's, it'll have turned out to be a reasonable salvage (on raw pick value, anyway - Bane is doing his best to make it hurt).

[Feed Your Head]

Brown >>> Beal

If you can’t see it I don’t know what to tell you.

First of all how old is Beal? That should be enough to agree.

Has Beal been to 3 Eastern Conference Finals? Did he do it before he was 24?

Can Beal finish with both hands?

How’s Beals defense? Now compare to Jaylen.

Jaylen is way more athletic. Can jump off both feet, just left, or just right foot equally as high. He has a monster mentality. He is better than Beal.

Maybe some of you just like the bigger name?

I’d love Beal for Kemba. That’s a deal in dream only.

Beal is a much better player, stop it. Beal scores 8 more a game, on better efficiency than Jaylen. Yes he can finish with both hands lol, a lot of players can. He’s more efficient despite dealing with all of the defensive attention from other teams, where Jaylen is defended as the secondary guy here. He’s a better playmaker, he takes better care of the ball. Yeah Jaylen is a better defender, but he’s only average himself on that side of the ball.

Saying you wouldn’t trade Jaylen for Beal is one thing, but there’s not a legitimate argument about JB being the better player.

[TommyForever]

Brown >>> Beal

If you can’t see it I don’t know what to tell you.

First of all how old is Beal? That should be enough to agree.

Has Beal been to 3 Eastern Conference Finals? Did he do it before he was 24?

Can Beal finish with both hands?

How’s Beals defense? Now compare to Jaylen.

Jaylen is way more athletic. Can jump off both feet, just left, or just right foot equally as high. He has a monster mentality. He is better than Beal.

Maybe some of you just like the bigger name?

I’d love Beal for Kemba. That’s a deal in dream only.

Beal is a much better player, stop it. Beal scores 8 more a game, on better efficiency than Jaylen. Yes he can finish with both hands lol, a lot of players can. He’s more efficient despite dealing with all of the defensive attention from other teams, where Jaylen is defended as the secondary guy here. He’s a better playmaker, he takes better care of the ball. Yeah Jaylen is a better defender, but he’s only average himself on that side of the ball.

Saying you wouldn’t trade Jaylen for Beal is one thing, but there’s not a legitimate argument about JB being the better player.

But they are at completely different points in their careers. What were Beals numbers at Browns age?

[Feed Your Head]

Brown >>> Beal

If you can’t see it I don’t know what to tell you.

First of all how old is Beal? That should be enough to agree.

Has Beal been to 3 Eastern Conference Finals? Did he do it before he was 24?

Can Beal finish with both hands?

How’s Beals defense? Now compare to Jaylen.

Jaylen is way more athletic. Can jump off both feet, just left, or just right foot equally as high. He has a monster mentality. He is better than Beal.

Maybe some of you just like the bigger name?

I’d love Beal for Kemba. That’s a deal in dream only.

Beal is a much better player, stop it. Beal scores 8 more a game, on better efficiency than Jaylen. Yes he can finish with both hands lol, a lot of players can. He’s more efficient despite dealing with all of the defensive attention from other teams, where Jaylen is defended as the secondary guy here. He’s a better playmaker, he takes better care of the ball. Yeah Jaylen is a better defender, but he’s only average himself on that side of the ball.

Saying you wouldn’t trade Jaylen for Beal is one thing, but there’s not a legitimate argument about JB being the better player.

But they are at completely different points in their careers. What were Beals numbers at Browns age?

We are talking about them both right now though, you said Jaylen is better now. There’s basically zero argument for that, though.

Beal is 3 years older than Jaylen. I think there’s a good chance Beal is still the better player in 3 years, as well.

[TommyForever]

Beal is a much better player, stop it. Beal scores 8 more a game, on better efficiency than Jaylen. Yes he can finish with both hands lol, a lot of players can. He’s more efficient despite dealing with all of the defensive attention from other teams, where Jaylen is defended as the secondary guy here. He’s a better playmaker, he takes better care of the ball. Yeah Jaylen is a better defender, but he’s only average himself on that side of the ball.

Saying you wouldn’t trade Jaylen for Beal is one thing, but there’s not a legitimate argument about JB being the better player.

But they are at completely different points in their careers. What were Beals numbers at Browns age?

We are talking about them both right now though, you said Jaylen is better now. There’s basically zero argument for that, though.

Beal is 3 years older than Jaylen. I think there’s a good chance Beal is still the better player in 3 years, as well.

Where did I say the word now?

[Feed Your Head]

Where did I say the word now?

Brown >>> Beal

He has a monster mentality. He is better than Beal.

[Gomes3PC]

I would trade Brown for Beal without thinking, mainly because I think Beal is a guy who can be your #1 bucket getter as a title team. It's easier to find stoppers and athletes, and much as I love the Jay's, neither sit to me as a true 1A bucket getter on the level you need to win a title.

[Bleeding Green]

I just try to hop on your coattails when you make a good point. I think that's two times now for you.

I really just need to somehow become important enough to have an editor. It takes me longer to write the short posts than the long ones. The long ones are when I just write the thoughts as they come out of my head. The short ones are when I look back and say, "That's way too long, no one wants to read that crap", and try to edit it down.

It helps. I've had some great editors. But after a while you don't need one. Indeed, one of my best editors was my wife, and we've flipped around over the decades to the point that I usually edit for her but not vice versa. Indeed, I've been an editor for some quite successful works of erotic romance, one of which was a NYT best-seller and other of which was nominated for a RITA award.

I think I read that erotic romance work on the General Board a few years ago. About Sam Cassell, right?

[Captain_Caveman]

Podcast eh?

Swearing allowed? Some games swearing is the inly good words to describe

My other board moved over to a discord last year, and it is bananas. I mentioned the podcast thing because of the diversity of hilarious lunatics there, but actual basketball talk would only be an afterthought there lol.

[Celts17Pride]

The real question: Is Bradley Beal better than Romeo Langford or Aaron Nesmith?

Be careful with your answer. Don’t want to look real foolish in a couple of weeks. Give it some thought.