Trade Thread, 2023-24 – (Offseason)

Post #161 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:54 pm

Am I taking crazy pills, why are we not happy that the Nets (who were the last Eastern Conference team to beat us in a playoff series) just blew up?

I get about being upset about wanting Durant and not landing him. But being upset he went to PHX? Guys, that’s awesome. **** the nets.

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #162 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:55 pm

chrisab123 wrote:The fear in this thread is insane right now. This team has had the best record for virtually the entire year. Yes, KD is a huge piece to move. But lets not forget how good the Celtics are when they have everyone healthy.

Phoenix is nice, but they were near the bottom of the league in drives already. Feel like our team is well-equipped to take them on in a series. Our defense matches up well with them. Their defense does not match up well against us though.

Homerclease · Post #163 » by **Homerclease** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:57 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:The fear in this thread is insane right now. This team has had the best record for virtually the entire year. Yes, KD is a huge piece to move. But lets not forget how good the Celtics are when they have everyone healthy.

Phoenix is nice, but they were near the bottom of the league in drives already. Feel like our team is well-equipped to take them on in a series. Our defense matches up well with them. Their defense does not match up well against us though.

They are no guarantee to come out of the west either. Even though we swept Durant out of the postseason last year, it’s still a good thing that to reach the finals we don’t have to go through him again.

zoyathedestroya · Post #164 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:58 pm

chrisab123 wrote:The fear in this thread is insane right now. This team has had the best record for virtually the entire year. Yes, KD is a huge piece to move. But lets not forget how good the Celtics are when they have everyone healthy.

Just 29 minutes played by the best starting five from last season. 1% of Celtics total minutes. Get healthy. Have at least a couple of weeks to get into a rhythm with our real rotation heading to the playoffs.

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #165 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 1:59 pm

B. Robb, the hardest working man in sports journalism, has a nice article:

How Kevin Durant trade impacts Celtics options at trade deadline and beyond

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/02/how-kevin-durant-trade-impacts-celtics-options-at-trade-deadline-and-beyond.html

Will other contenders get more aggressive now? Putting the regular season standings aside, watching the Suns turn themselves into what look like a clear-cut contender from a talent standpoint puts pressure on Boston and other top teams around the NBA. The Celtics have a strong group but they may have extra incentive to add one more impact piece to better match up with the Suns or another East contender if they make an addition themselves. As the NBA scrambles to reach to the Durant news, every team including the Celtics will have to take a longer look at what they need as the deadline approaches and beyond with the Suns looking like a top flight contender for years to come.

Edug27 · Post #166 » by **Edug27** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:01 pm

Celtics_Champs wrote:Am I taking crazy pills, why are we not happy that the Nets (who were the last Eastern Conference team to beat us in a playoff series) just blew up?

I get about being upset about wanting Durant and not landing him. But being upset he went to PHX? Guys, that’s awesome. **** the nets.

The Nets were the least of our worries. Did you miss last season?

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #167 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:01 pm

Homerclease wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:The fear in this thread is insane right now. This team has had the best record for virtually the entire year. Yes, KD is a huge piece to move. But lets not forget how good the Celtics are when they have everyone healthy.

Phoenix is nice, but they were near the bottom of the league in drives already. Feel like our team is well-equipped to take them on in a series. Our defense matches up well with them. Their defense does not match up well against us though.

They are no guarantee to come out of the west either. Even though we swept Durant out of the postseason last year, it’s still a good thing that to reach the finals we don’t have to go through him again.

Agreed. With Kyrie and his drama gone, a team led by KD, along with Dinwiddie and Cam Thomas might have been a 6 game series. We can beat them, but it wasn’t a walk in the park like last year.

Triple7 · Post #168 » by **Triple7** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:02 pm

chrisab123 wrote:The fear in this thread is insane right now. This team has had the best record for virtually the entire year. Yes, KD is a huge piece to move. But lets not forget how good the Celtics are when they have everyone healthy.

Well let’s not forget just last week, Saric alone outplayed all our bigs combined. Horf with 3pts, Rob with 6pts, Kornet with 4pts and Grant with 0pts. Their 3rd big Landale getting rebounds and dunks inside. We lost to them with almost a complete lineup minus booker and KD. So let’s not be too cocky.

Post #169 » by **Feed Your Head** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:03 pm

Homerclease wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:I have Brown as better than Booker.

I agree with him.

Come on lol. I think the Celtics are still better than the Suns, but Booker is unquestionably the better player. What do we think his numbers are going to look like without defenses completely honing in on him.

People seriously understate the gap between scoring as a top guy, and a secondary guy.

KD=Tatum
Booker>>Jaylen
Celtics depth>>>>Suns

Larry_Russell · Post #170 » by **Larry_Russell** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:04 pm

Dogen wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
165bows wrote:Brooklyn has Celtics back court level depth at the wing right now.

A Pritchard and a 2nd rounder for Cam Johnson fixes things for both teams

About to board from Barcelona to Dubai. If this scenario breaks before we leave, I will rub one out on the plane.

LOLOLOLOL

Bohemian · Post #171 » by **Bohemian** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:04 pm

Read on Twitter

TatumMVP · Post #172 » by **TatumMVP** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:04 pm

Jaylen is better than Armani.

FlatearthZorro · Post #173 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:05 pm

aim2please wrote:One thing I know, John Collins will still be on the Hawks.

Grant 1st and a pick swap + filler for Collins and then you add as younger centre

Post #174 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:05 pm

Edug27 wrote:
Celtics_Champs wrote:Am I taking crazy pills, why are we not happy that the Nets (who were the last Eastern Conference team to beat us in a playoff series) just blew up?

I get about being upset about wanting Durant and not landing him. But being upset he went to PHX? Guys, that’s awesome. **** the nets.

The Nets were the least of our worries. Did you miss last season?

Can’t have it both ways. We can’t say any team with Durant is an instant title contender and then say we don’t have to worry about them.

Larry_Russell · Post #175 » by **Larry_Russell** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:06 pm

Bohemian wrote:

Read on Twitter

As I said before, in 30 minutes we will get some more news. RIght when I go to work

Already at work but boss is going to try and find a deadline show somewhere and put it on his TV and has invited me to work in his office this afternoon...

Also he knows that I plan on having twitter and this site open for breaking news. lolol

My work is awesome...

ballup · Post #176 » by **ballup** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:06 pm

Looking for a energizer center. Olynyk is not that kind of center

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Homerclease · Post #177 » by **Homerclease** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:06 pm

The Comedian wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
The Comedian wrote:

I agree with him.

Come on lol. I think the Celtics are still better than the Suns, but Booker is unquestionably the better player. What do we think his numbers are going to look like without defenses completely honing in on him.

People seriously understate the gap between scoring as a top guy, and a secondary guy.

KD=Tatum
Booker>>Jaylen
Celtics depth>>>>Suns

Maybe it’s the fraudulent 70 burger from a few years ago but Booker will always be an overrated stat padding chucker to me. I think he’s quite over rated personally. If you want to say he’s better than Brown I wouldn’t put up a huge fight but the gap is minimal if any.

He may not have defenses honing in on him, but he’s not going to have as many shots either. I don’t expect much change in his numbers at all

exculpatory · Post #178 » by **exculpatory** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:07 pm

TatumMVP wrote:Jaylen is better than Armani.

Wasn’t he assassinated in Miami a long time ago?

ballup · Post #179 » by **ballup** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:07 pm

The Comedian wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
The Comedian wrote:

I agree with him.

Come on lol. I think the Celtics are still better than the Suns, but Booker is unquestionably the better player. What do we think his numbers are going to look like without defenses completely honing in on him.

People seriously understate the gap between scoring as a top guy, and a secondary guy.

KD=Tatum
Booker>>Jaylen
Celtics depth>>>>Suns

Booker was in the MVP conversation when he wasn't injured earlier in the season.

Come on ppl

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Post #180 » by **165bows** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 2:07 pm

ShermansShoes wrote:The answer is and has been Olynyk. Solves the backup to the backup big man issue, and adds a bit more shooting which is nice. Assume the Barton buyout chatter is real, and their's your finals team. If it costs Pritchard and something else to match salaries, so be it.

Very, very well might be right. The ball movement piece is what sticks out here. Both guys are pretty good ball movers and fluid with the ball.