Summer League 2024, Multi-Game Thread – Celtics finish 2-3, in Vegas

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Oh damn. Based only on this thread’s title and me not paying attention, I was hyped that today might be GAME DAY! But of course it’s not. Summer Celtics don’t even exist yet — roster not announced, haven’t gathered, haven’t practiced. And: they’re only playing in Vegas.

Okay fine so I’ll do yard work all day (that is what I call watching highlights of Ron Harper Jr and Whoever Demonia:)

Harper Jr. is a fun player too. Knows how to use his bulk. Thankful to Bows for finding and posting the Demonia video. If this team moves the ball well, we should get some highlight plays. Fun fact: Harper and Demonia both have arm lengths of 7'1.25".

I'm thinking they add another 5 and a PG. Very pumped Queta seems will be with the team at least to start the tourney and Watson figures to get some small ball 5 play, but another 9'+ standing reach-er would seem a given. And while I think Springer may be designated PG when Davison sits, they should add someone else if they need to abort. Scheierman and Peterson (and Harper to a lesser extent) help take pressure off, but still.

I hope not re: Springer. If it came to it, I'd rather see Scheierman (Poor-boy Luka) play the point. For the C's last year, Spring had a 2.5/2.2 asst/TO ratio per 36 minutes.

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Oh damn. Based only on this thread’s title and me not paying attention, I was hyped that today might be GAME DAY! But of course it’s not. Summer Celtics don’t even exist yet — roster not announced, haven’t gathered, haven’t practiced. And: they’re only playing in Vegas.

Okay fine so I’ll do yard work all day (that is what I call watching highlights of Ron Harper Jr and Whoever Demonia:)

Harper Jr. is a fun player too. Knows how to use his bulk. Thankful to Bows for finding and posting the Demonia video. If this team moves the ball well, we should get some highlight plays. Fun fact: Harper and Demonia both have arm lengths of 7'1.25".

I'm thinking they add another 5 and a PG. Very pumped Queta seems will be with the team at least to start the tourney and Watson figures to get some small ball 5 play, but another 9'+ standing reach-er would seem a given. And while I think Springer may be designated PG when Davison sits, they should add someone else if they need to abort. Scheierman and Peterson (and Harper to a lesser extent) help take pressure off, but still.

I hope not re: Springer. If it came to it, I'd rather see Scheierman (Poor-boy Luka) play the point. For the C's last year, Spring had a 2.5/2.2 asst/TO ratio per 36 minutes.

I would read basically nothing into Springer's stats with the Celtics last season.

First off, basically all of his his mins came in garbage time..there's a reason why some sites filter out garbage time..because those minutes are basically meaningless. It's just guys getting cardio, playing glorified pickup ball, with the outcome of the game already decided so who cares.

Plus, Springer got thrown onto a new team in the middle of the season, with no training camp, barely any practice time..had to learn a new system, schemes, get adjusted to playing for new coaches, with new teammates and do all of that at age 21 where you're one of the last guys at the end of the bench getting sporadic playing time, getting mostly DNP-CD's and also battling an ankle injury when he first got to Boston.

With that being said, I do think he's more of a 2 than a 1..

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Harper Jr. is a fun player too. Knows how to use his bulk. Thankful to Bows for finding and posting the Demonia video. If this team moves the ball well, we should get some highlight plays. Fun fact: Harper and Demonia both have arm lengths of 7'1.25".

I'm thinking they add another 5 and a PG. Very pumped Queta seems will be with the team at least to start the tourney and Watson figures to get some small ball 5 play, but another 9'+ standing reach-er would seem a given. And while I think Springer may be designated PG when Davison sits, they should add someone else if they need to abort. Scheierman and Peterson (and Harper to a lesser extent) help take pressure off, but still.

I hope not re: Springer. If it came to it, I'd rather see Scheierman (Poor-boy Luka) play the point. For the C's last year, Spring had a 2.5/2.2 asst/TO ratio per 36 minutes.

I would read basically nothing into Springer's stats with the Celtics last season.

First off, basically all of his his mins came in garbage time..there's a reason why some sites filter out garbage time..because those minutes are basically meaningless. It's just guys getting cardio, playing glorified pickup ball, with the outcome of the game already decided so who cares.

Plus, Springer got thrown onto a new team in the middle of the season, with no training camp, barely any practice time..had to learn a new system, schemes, get adjusted to playing for new coaches, with new teammates and do all of that at age 21 where you're one of the last guys at the end of the bench getting sporadic playing time, getting mostly DNP-CD's and also battling an ankle injury when he first got to Boston.

With that being said, I do think he's more of a 2 than a 1..

His career (3-yr) averages aren't much better as a 2 (e.g., .226 from 3). He can shoot FTs, so there's still hope for a guy who is still young, but I don't see him developing on a team like this.

[darrendaye]

Harper Jr. is a fun player too. Knows how to use his bulk. Thankful to Bows for finding and posting the Demonia video. If this team moves the ball well, we should get some highlight plays. Fun fact: Harper and Demonia both have arm lengths of 7'1.25".

I'm thinking they add another 5 and a PG. Very pumped Queta seems will be with the team at least to start the tourney and Watson figures to get some small ball 5 play, but another 9'+ standing reach-er would seem a given. And while I think Springer may be designated PG when Davison sits, they should add someone else if they need to abort. Scheierman and Peterson (and Harper to a lesser extent) help take pressure off, but still.

I hope not re: Springer. If it came to it, I'd rather see Scheierman (Poor-boy Luka) play the point. For the C's last year, Spring had a 2.5/2.2 asst/TO ratio per 36 minutes.

I would read basically nothing into Springer's stats with the Celtics last season.

First off, basically all of his his mins came in garbage time..there's a reason why some sites filter out garbage time..because those minutes are basically meaningless. It's just guys getting cardio, playing glorified pickup ball, with the outcome of the game already decided so who cares.

Plus, Springer got thrown onto a new team in the middle of the season, with no training camp, barely any practice time..had to learn a new system, schemes, get adjusted to playing for new coaches, with new teammates and do all of that at age 21 where you're one of the last guys at the end of the bench getting sporadic playing time, getting mostly DNP-CD's and also battling an ankle injury when he first got to Boston.

With that being said, I do think he's more of a 2 than a 1..

Solid points, and I'm 100% not saying I see Springer as a lead guard. But in these SL games where you've got 1st and 2nd year guys plus fringe NBA players (particularly when 1st units get subbed out), it's a chance to see if he can fit an offensive role if he gets playing time. He has some floater game and can hold the line on dribble drives, but he'll need to be self-aware and the more reps with a sharp focus on scanning the floor and passing the better.

[Homerclease]

Watching the lakers kings game……if the guys that are supposed to be playing for the Celtics actually play, they will mop the floor with this laker club

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I hope not re: Springer. If it came to it, I'd rather see Scheierman (Poor-boy Luka) play the point. For the C's last year, Spring had a 2.5/2.2 asst/TO ratio per 36 minutes.

I would read basically nothing into Springer's stats with the Celtics last season.

First off, basically all of his his mins came in garbage time..there's a reason why some sites filter out garbage time..because those minutes are basically meaningless. It's just guys getting cardio, playing glorified pickup ball, with the outcome of the game already decided so who cares.

Plus, Springer got thrown onto a new team in the middle of the season, with no training camp, barely any practice time..had to learn a new system, schemes, get adjusted to playing for new coaches, with new teammates and do all of that at age 21 where you're one of the last guys at the end of the bench getting sporadic playing time, getting mostly DNP-CD's and also battling an ankle injury when he first got to Boston.

With that being said, I do think he's more of a 2 than a 1..

Solid points, and I'm 100% not saying I see Springer as a lead guard. But in these SL games where you've got 1st and 2nd year guys plus fringe NBA players (particularly when 1st units get subbed out), it's a chance to see if he can fit an offensive role if he gets playing time. He has some floater game and can hold the line on dribble drives, but he'll need to be self-aware and the more reps with a sharp focus on scanning the floor and passing the better.

Yeah I think this club will intentionally put guys in spots pretty frequently that are not their strong suit to enforce development. Actually really curious if they do that with Springer - I’d guess they are more concerned about developing these guys than an SL title so wouldn’t surprise if they roll with JD and have Springer, Peterson and Scheierman back up the PG spot.

I mean, was Stauskas more of a PG than those guys?

[Homerclease]

Knecht has a couple nice feeds but hasn’t done much offensively so far, looks a bit bothered by the speed and athleticism so far. Bronny done next to nothing.

[Homerclease]

Blake Hinson is built like a tank and moves well, and also shoots the ball every time he touches it.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Bronny's going to be the Starting PG on the Las Vegas LeBrons... Book it!

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Sacramento has two summer league teams this year, which is not unheard of. Both Kings teams are playing today and both are playing again tomorrow. What do you call that, a back to back double header?

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lakers getting smacked by the kings b team. this is pathetic lol

[Smart2Nesmith43]

I would read basically nothing into Springer's stats with the Celtics last season.

First off, basically all of his his mins came in garbage time..there's a reason why some sites filter out garbage time..because those minutes are basically meaningless. It's just guys getting cardio, playing glorified pickup ball, with the outcome of the game already decided so who cares.

Plus, Springer got thrown onto a new team in the middle of the season, with no training camp, barely any practice time..had to learn a new system, schemes, get adjusted to playing for new coaches, with new teammates and do all of that at age 21 where you're one of the last guys at the end of the bench getting sporadic playing time, getting mostly DNP-CD's and also battling an ankle injury when he first got to Boston.

With that being said, I do think he's more of a 2 than a 1..

Solid points, and I'm 100% not saying I see Springer as a lead guard. But in these SL games where you've got 1st and 2nd year guys plus fringe NBA players (particularly when 1st units get subbed out), it's a chance to see if he can fit an offensive role if he gets playing time. He has some floater game and can hold the line on dribble drives, but he'll need to be self-aware and the more reps with a sharp focus on scanning the floor and passing the better.

Yeah I think this club will intentionally put guys in spots pretty frequently that are not their strong suit to enforce development. Actually really curious if they do that with Springer - I’d guess they are more concerned about developing these guys than an SL title so wouldn’t surprise if they roll with JD and have Springer, Peterson and Scheierman back up the PG spot.

I mean, was Stauskas more of a PG than those guys?

Remember that one game in summer league before Hauser's second season when they tried to have him handle the ball ? That went terribly and some posters were asking for him to be cut based on not filling a role he would never be asked to do at the NBA level. Those posters have since moved on to asking for Hauser to get benched everytime he misses three shots in a row but that's another issue

[darrendaye]

Solid points, and I'm 100% not saying I see Springer as a lead guard. But in these SL games where you've got 1st and 2nd year guys plus fringe NBA players (particularly when 1st units get subbed out), it's a chance to see if he can fit an offensive role if he gets playing time. He has some floater game and can hold the line on dribble drives, but he'll need to be self-aware and the more reps with a sharp focus on scanning the floor and passing the better.

Yeah I think this club will intentionally put guys in spots pretty frequently that are not their strong suit to enforce development. Actually really curious if they do that with Springer - I’d guess they are more concerned about developing these guys than an SL title so wouldn’t surprise if they roll with JD and have Springer, Peterson and Scheierman back up the PG spot.

I mean, was Stauskas more of a PG than those guys?

Remember that one game in summer league before Hauser's second season when they tried to have him handle the ball ? That went terribly and some posters were asking for him to be cut based on not filling a role he would never be asked to do at the NBA level. Those posters have since moved on to asking for Hauser to get benched everytime he misses three shots in a row but that's another issue

I loved that they gave that a shot, the Hauser handling. He's continued to make some improvements there and considering how great his defensive technique and effort have evolved, I consider him a SG at least for stretches in games. I also hope they put Walsh in positions when he's in distributor mode in SL. One of the things I LOVED when Walsh got time in NBA games was how willing and well he passed the ball.

[darrendaye]

I will be interested in watching for how Scheierman works around screens on defense. At least on one YT scouting report video and highlight package laud his ability to work through them pretty well.

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Yeah I think this club will intentionally put guys in spots pretty frequently that are not their strong suit to enforce development. Actually really curious if they do that with Springer - I’d guess they are more concerned about developing these guys than an SL title so wouldn’t surprise if they roll with JD and have Springer, Peterson and Scheierman back up the PG spot.

I mean, was Stauskas more of a PG than those guys?

Remember that one game in summer league before Hauser's second season when they tried to have him handle the ball ? That went terribly and some posters were asking for him to be cut based on not filling a role he would never be asked to do at the NBA level. Those posters have since moved on to asking for Hauser to get benched everytime he misses three shots in a row but that's another issue

I loved that they gave that a shot, the Hauser handling. He's continued to make some improvements there and considering how great his defensive technique and effort have evolved, I consider him a SG at least for stretches in games. I also hope they put Walsh in positions when he's in distributor mode in SL. One of the things I LOVED when Walsh got time in NBA games was how willing and well he passed the ball.

Ha definitely remember that exact game or stretch of games. He did look really rough lol.

[Homerclease]

This Heat squad may be even worse than the Lakers. Woof. Ware is interesting defensively but so so raw on offense

[Homerclease]

Hornets on next who are another of our opponents this year, Miller is playing for them but who knows how much they are even gonna play him. From what I’ve seen and what I know of the current SL roster, the Heat and Lakers stand no chance against the Celtics squad

[Homerclease]

Hornets are light years ahead of the Heat and lakers. Old friend Charles Lee has them flying around out there!

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I will be interested in watching for how Scheierman works around screens on defense. At least on one YT scouting report video and highlight package laud his ability to work through them pretty well.

His 3-Point Makes will be known as Baylor Blasts...

[Fierce1]

Castle should have gone to the Kings.

Kings need a Castle.