Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread

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[Jammer]

I see depth charts all over the internet with different positions listed for various Celtics. I tried to come up with my own.
Wondering what you experts would say should be different? Not looking at summer league. Looking at regular season & Playoffs.

Center
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis (out to possibly January)

PF
Jayson Tatum
Xavier Tillman
Baylor Scheierman

SF
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)

SG
Derrick White
Jordan Walsh (behind Pritchard & Springer in actual game use in playoffs or regular season)

PG
Jrue Holiday
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

[darrendaye]

I see depth charts all over the internet with different positions listed for various Celtics. I tried to come up with my own.
Wondering what you experts would say should be different? Not looking at summer league. Looking at regular season & Playoffs.

Center
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis (out to possibly January)

PF
Jayson Tatum
Xavier Tillman
Baylor Scheierman

SF
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)

SG
Derrick White
Jordan Walsh (behind Pritchard & Springer in actual game use in playoffs or regular season)

PG
Jrue Holiday
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

I think I'm in line with your thinking, I see it as the position you'll typically want them defensively. I don't know where you're making the PG/SG distinction for White and Holiday, but they are both excellent defending either spot. Hauser is and should be used as a SG for stretches. Part of the PF distinction is which big you want closing out on 3pt shooters. Peterson TBD whether he has come along enough to defend perimeter as an "official" SF or if he remains a bully-able PF.

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I see depth charts all over the internet with different positions listed for various Celtics. I tried to come up with my own.
Wondering what you experts would say should be different? Not looking at summer league. Looking at regular season & Playoffs.

Center
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis (out to possibly January)

PF
Jayson Tatum
Xavier Tillman
Anton Watson


SF
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Baylor Scheierman/Drew Peterson (Two-way)
Tristan Enaruna


SG
Derrick White
Jaden Springer
Jordan Walsh (behind Pritchard & Springer in actual game use in playoffs or regular season)

PG
Jrue Holiday
Payton Pritchard
JD Davison (Two-Way)

Made a couple of smaller tweaks based on how I would see it. I think a lot of these guys (by design) can handle multiple roles. I like Enaruna's potential a lot but he's got to be the last guy on the list depth-wise just based on contract status.

[ThePigeon]

I see depth charts all over the internet with different positions listed for various Celtics. I tried to come up with my own.
Wondering what you experts would say should be different? Not looking at summer league. Looking at regular season & Playoffs.

Center
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis (out to possibly January)

PF
Jayson Tatum
Xavier Tillman
Baylor Scheierman

SF
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)

SG
Derrick White
Jordan Walsh (behind Pritchard & Springer in actual game use in playoffs or regular season)

PG
Jrue Holiday
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

I think I'm in line with your thinking, I see it as the position you'll typically want them defensively. I don't know where you're making the PG/SG distinction for White and Holiday, but they are both excellent defending either spot. Hauser is and should be used as a SG for stretches. Part of the PF distinction is which big you want closing out on 3pt shooters. Peterson TBD whether he has come along enough to defend perimeter as an "official" SF or if he remains a bully-able PF.

As the Celtics are a dynamic team both on offense and defense (where anyone can guard anyone and most can bring up the ball and initiate offense), I think that traditional positions are irrelevant.
Try Bigs, Forwards and Guards

Bigs:
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Xavier Tillman
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis


Forwards:
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Baylor Scheierman
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)
Jordan Walsh

Guards:
Jrue Holiday
Derrick White
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

[165bows]

I see depth charts all over the internet with different positions listed for various Celtics. I tried to come up with my own.
Wondering what you experts would say should be different? Not looking at summer league. Looking at regular season & Playoffs.

Center
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis (out to possibly January)

PF
Jayson Tatum
Xavier Tillman
Baylor Scheierman

SF
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)

SG
Derrick White
Jordan Walsh (behind Pritchard & Springer in actual game use in playoffs or regular season)

PG
Jrue Holiday
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

I think I'm in line with your thinking, I see it as the position you'll typically want them defensively. I don't know where you're making the PG/SG distinction for White and Holiday, but they are both excellent defending either spot. Hauser is and should be used as a SG for stretches. Part of the PF distinction is which big you want closing out on 3pt shooters. Peterson TBD whether he has come along enough to defend perimeter as an "official" SF or if he remains a bully-able PF.

As the Celtics are a dynamic team both on offense and defense (where anyone can guard anyone and most can bring up the ball and initiate offense), I think that traditional positions are irrelevant.
Try Bigs, Forwards and Guards

Bigs:
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Xavier Tillman
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis


Forwards:
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Baylor Scheierman
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)
Jordan Walsh

Guards:
Jrue Holiday
Derrick White
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

It's a good point - the team supposedly uses 4 positions, ballhandlers, wings, swings (can guard wings and bigs) and bigs.

That would leave it roughly as:

Bigs:
KP
Kornet
Queta

Swings:
Al
Tillman
Watson (assuming)

Wings:
Tatum
Brown
Hauser
Scheierman/Peterson/Walsh

Ballhandlers:
White
Holiday
PP
Springer (developing ball handler or maybe he's a wing?)
Davison

[brackdan70]

I see depth charts all over the internet with different positions listed for various Celtics. I tried to come up with my own.
Wondering what you experts would say should be different? Not looking at summer league. Looking at regular season & Playoffs.

Center
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis (out to possibly January)

PF
Jayson Tatum
Xavier Tillman
Baylor Scheierman

SF
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)

SG
Derrick White
Jordan Walsh (behind Pritchard & Springer in actual game use in playoffs or regular season)

PG
Jrue Holiday
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

Leaving out Anton Watson because he isn’t signed?
I think he is probably a PF and Scheierman is a SF if we do it like that.
I like Brads model

Bigs
KP
Horford
Tillman (Swing)
Kornet
Queta

Swings
Tatum (Ball Handler, Wing and Big)
Walsh
Watson

Wings
Brown
Hauser
Scheierman

Ball Handlers
White (Wing)
Jrue
Pritchard
Springer (Wing)

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FWIW, I'd put Watson over Walsh. Based on SL (and also based on what they both did the 2 previous seasons between college/g league) it appears Watson is closer to being able to contribute for the big club..

I also think positions are pretty interchangeable and it's basically positionless basketball so sometimes I prefer to just rank guys on the depth chart, regardless of position..



People seem to be underrating Springer on here. They shut him down for summer league because, but had Scheierman, Queta, Watson, JD, Peterson all still playing..

[Fierce1]

Yeah, Watson over Walsh now.

Watson is bigger and is the more seasoned player.

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Some good stuff but really 15 minutes of content squeezed into and hour.
Ain’t nobody got time for that.

[snowman]

I see depth charts all over the internet with different positions listed for various Celtics. I tried to come up with my own.
Wondering what you experts would say should be different? Not looking at summer league. Looking at regular season & Playoffs.

Center
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis (out to possibly January)

PF
Jayson Tatum
Xavier Tillman
Baylor Scheierman

SF
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)

SG
Derrick White
Jordan Walsh (behind Pritchard & Springer in actual game use in playoffs or regular season)

PG
Jrue Holiday
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

I think I'm in line with your thinking, I see it as the position you'll typically want them defensively. I don't know where you're making the PG/SG distinction for White and Holiday, but they are both excellent defending either spot. Hauser is and should be used as a SG for stretches. Part of the PF distinction is which big you want closing out on 3pt shooters. Peterson TBD whether he has come along enough to defend perimeter as an "official" SF or if he remains a bully-able PF.

I agree with you mostly.
Center:
(Hot take #1) I see Queta taking most of Kornet's minutes by all start break.
PF:
Once Porzingis comes back, I see Horford and Tillman backing up Tatum. (Hot take #2) I also think Watson will get minutes here as our 3rd two-way player or even as our 15th roster spot player.
SF:
I see Hauser and Scheierman getting all the backup minutes behind Brown.
SG:
I see Walsh and Springer getting our SG backup minutes behind White and Holiday.
PG:
Pritchard will back up the rotation of White and Holiday.

So, I see it as While Porzingis is out:
Holiday, White, Brown, Tatum, Horford
Prichard, Scheierman, Hauser, Tillman, Kornet
Springer, Walsh, Watson, Queta (Porzingis)

After Porzingis comes back:
Holiday, White, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis
Pritchard, Scheierman, Hauser, Horford, Queta
Springer, Walsh, Watson, Tillman, Kornet

Hot take #3
If Springer or Walsh cannot develop a consistent 3=point shot, I look for one of them to be moved for a backup point guard behind Pritchard. I do not see Davison ever getting a regular contract with the Celtics.

[darrendaye]

I see depth charts all over the internet with different positions listed for various Celtics. I tried to come up with my own.
Wondering what you experts would say should be different? Not looking at summer league. Looking at regular season & Playoffs.

Center
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis (out to possibly January)

PF
Jayson Tatum
Xavier Tillman
Baylor Scheierman

SF
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)

SG
Derrick White
Jordan Walsh (behind Pritchard & Springer in actual game use in playoffs or regular season)

PG
Jrue Holiday
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

I think I'm in line with your thinking, I see it as the position you'll typically want them defensively. I don't know where you're making the PG/SG distinction for White and Holiday, but they are both excellent defending either spot. Hauser is and should be used as a SG for stretches. Part of the PF distinction is which big you want closing out on 3pt shooters. Peterson TBD whether he has come along enough to defend perimeter as an "official" SF or if he remains a bully-able PF.

I agree with you mostly.
Center:
(Hot take #1) I see Queta taking most of Kornet's minutes by all start break.
PF:
Once Porzingis comes back, I see Horford and Tillman backing up Tatum. (Hot take #2) I also think Watson will get minutes here as our 3rd two-way player or even as our 15th roster spot player.
SF:
I see Hauser and Scheierman getting all the backup minutes behind Brown.
SG:
I see Walsh and Springer getting our SG backup minutes behind White and Holiday.
PG:
Pritchard will back up the rotation of White and Holiday.

So, I see it as While Porzingis is out:
Holiday, White, Brown, Tatum, Horford
Prichard, Scheierman, Hauser, Tillman, Kornet
Springer, Walsh, Watson, Queta (Porzingis)

After Porzingis comes back:
Holiday, White, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis
Pritchard, Scheierman, Hauser, Horford, Queta
Springer, Walsh, Watson, Tillman, Kornet

Hot take #3
If Springer or Walsh cannot develop a consistent 3=point shot, I look for one of them to be moved for a backup point guard behind Pritchard. I do not see Davison ever getting a regular contract with the Celtics.

I put my pre-KP rotation here:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2390209&start=40

IMO there will be a good deal of mixing and matching. I'm in line with your hot take #1, mostly. I see most games pre-KP the scale tipping to Queta, particularly mixed in with starters, but Kornet the one who starts and assumes greater share of Horford minutes when Al misses a game. I can definitely see Springer used in a small lineup with White and Holiday as a high ball pressure unit. I don't concur with your hot take #3 due both to them already having two guys who are solid playing the position in White and Holiday, along with Pritchard, as well as two high usage ball-handlers in Tatum and Brown. You have Springer there to take the tougher PG defensive assignments and that's more the niche need considering the rest of the options they have to handle the offensive components. Finally on your hot take #2, I see Tillman and Watson as sharing mostly the same lane with Watson mostly given his shots to play when Tillman is out.

Touching on all three of your hot takes with my crazy take, if I risk losing one by not offering a 2-way slot, I'm choosing to keep Killian Tillie over JD Davison. Not leaning into Tillie so much as to suggest not trying to sign someone with more upside, but, if my best use of the 4rd 2-way comes down to Davison or Tillie, while I'd love to keep both around in Maine, I can more easily see a lane for Tillie to get call up minutes to cover an injury than I can Davison.

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I see depth charts all over the internet with different positions listed for various Celtics. I tried to come up with my own.
Wondering what you experts would say should be different? Not looking at summer league. Looking at regular season & Playoffs.

Center
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis (out to possibly January)

PF
Jayson Tatum
Xavier Tillman
Baylor Scheierman

SF
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)

SG
Derrick White
Jordan Walsh (behind Pritchard & Springer in actual game use in playoffs or regular season)

PG
Jrue Holiday
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

What's Enaruma doing on the roster?!? And 5 positions don't really work for a modern roster. Jrue, DWhite and PP are interchangeable in the backcourt.

[Jammer]

I see depth charts all over the internet with different positions listed for various Celtics. I tried to come up with my own.
Wondering what you experts would say should be different? Not looking at summer league. Looking at regular season & Playoffs.

Center
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis (out to possibly January)

PF
Jayson Tatum
Xavier Tillman
Baylor Scheierman

SF
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)

SG
Derrick White
Jordan Walsh (behind Pritchard & Springer in actual game use in playoffs or regular season)

PG
Jrue Holiday
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

Leaving out Anton Watson because he isn’t signed?
I think he is probably a PF and Scheierman is a SF if we do it like that.
I like Brads model

Bigs
KP
Horford
Tillman (Swing)
Kornet
Queta

Swings
Tatum (Ball Handler, Wing and Big)
Walsh
Watson

Wings
Brown
Hauser
Scheierman

Ball Handlers
White (Wing)
Jrue
Pritchard
Springer (Wing)

The Celtics website lists Walsh as a guard despite his pathetic handle. Disagree with Swing strongly.

Tillman is a pure Big who is too small forctrue centers so he is limited to defending PFs.

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I see depth charts all over the internet with different positions listed for various Celtics. I tried to come up with my own.
Wondering what you experts would say should be different? Not looking at summer league. Looking at regular season & Playoffs.

Center
Al Horford
Luke Kornet
Neemias Queta
Kristaps Porzingis (out to possibly January)

PF
Jayson Tatum
Xavier Tillman
Baylor Scheierman

SF
Jaylen Brown
Sam Hauser
Tristan Enaruma
Drew Peterson (Two-way)

SG
Derrick White
Jordan Walsh (behind Pritchard & Springer in actual game use in playoffs or regular season)

PG
Jrue Holiday
Payton Pritchard
Jaden Springer
JD Davison (Two-Way)

Leaving out Anton Watson because he isn’t signed?
I think he is probably a PF and Scheierman is a SF if we do it like that.
I like Brads model

Bigs
KP
Horford
Tillman (Swing)
Kornet
Queta

Swings
Tatum (Ball Handler, Wing and Big)
Walsh
Watson

Wings
Brown
Hauser
Scheierman

Ball Handlers
White (Wing)
Jrue
Pritchard
Springer (Wing)

The Celtics website lists Walsh as a guard despite his pathetic handle. Disagree with Swing strongly.

Tillman is a pure Big who is too small forctrue centers so he is limited to defending PFs.

The whole point of Tillman is to be a swing defensively. Brad talked about needing a 4/5 at the trade deadline.

[BK_2020]

Tillman is a 4 defensively and 5 offensively.

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