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Re: Welcome to Boston, Hugo Gonzalez! 

Post#161 » by cloverleaf » Thu Jul 3, 2025 6:11 pm

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I hope they manage to dump Simons somewhere and consider Scheierman pretty much a lock for the rotation. I take it JD will start the year in the rotation and think Hugo's D gets him a slot in there too. And then a 2nd center is in there with Queta.

Yep, same. No point in Simons keeping us over the tax and taking time from developing our long term young guys. Let's see what Baylor esp, but also JD, Hugo, Walsh and Minott have to offer.

If they see Simons as a long term piece they can afford, then sure, but it's kind of one of those things if he does well enough to keep, our finances won't allow it. If he's cheap enough to keep, then he's probably not good enough to.

True.

But if he's good enough to keep, maybe we sign him to like $20mil a season, maybe $25mil, tops..that could be doable, if everyone else on our team (outside of the Jays and white) are making under $10mil a year and everyone else is just on rookie contracts for minimum contracts except for Pritchard and a starting C (under $10mil a year)

Especially if White getting up there in age causes him to be less effective as a scorer and both the Jays coming off surgery, they might need more rest days and we might want to lessen their offensive load a bit, so having that young, offensive weapon like Simons could prove to be super valuable long term for us to continue to be a contender.

Not to sidetrack the Hugo thread though :)


The C's became a contender when they stopped having any rotational players, let alone starters, who were defensive liabilities.
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Post#162 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Jul 3, 2025 6:14 pm

Hal14 wrote:True.

But if he's good enough to keep, maybe we sign him to like $20mil a season, maybe $25mil, tops..that could be doable, if everyone else on our team (outside of the Jays and white) are making under $10mil a year and everyone else is just on rookie contracts for minimum contracts except for Pritchard and a starting C (under $10mil a year)

Not to sidetrack the Hugo thread though :)

Not to further sidetrack the thread. But I think Simons is gonna take a big downward revision in his annual salary. Gary Trent Jr just signed 2 yrs for $7.5 and it seems the market has sobered up on the Simons archetype.

If we keep Anfernee Simons, I think it's gonna be at a way lower number ... if he even lasts long enough that he isn't traded this summer because of the Celts tax problem
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Post#163 » by return2glory » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:41 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:Gonzalez could be a good player, at the end of the 1st if you get a starter, that's gold. I think his 3pt shooting struggles wont last long, watched videos of him and his form looks pretty good to me.


I think he has a chance to be a steal. He has NBA size for his position at only 19. He moves well, changes direction well and can handle the ball with with either hand. He plays defense. Crashes the offensive glass. If he can improve his 3 point shooting, look out.
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Post#164 » by cloverleaf » Fri Jul 4, 2025 8:10 am

redslastlaugh wrote:
Hal14 wrote:True.

But if he's good enough to keep, maybe we sign him to like $20mil a season, maybe $25mil, tops..that could be doable, if everyone else on our team (outside of the Jays and white) are making under $10mil a year and everyone else is just on rookie contracts for minimum contracts except for Pritchard and a starting C (under $10mil a year)

Not to sidetrack the Hugo thread though :)

Not to further sidetrack the thread. But I think Simons is gonna take a big downward revision in his annual salary. Gary Trent Jr just signed 2 yrs for $7.5 and it seems the market has sobered up on the Simons archetype.

If we keep Anfernee Simons, I think it's gonna be at a way lower number ... if he even lasts long enough that he isn't traded this summer because of the Celts tax problem


His salary for next year is set.
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Post#165 » by brackdan70 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 1:38 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:
Hal14 wrote:True.

But if he's good enough to keep, maybe we sign him to like $20mil a season, maybe $25mil, tops..that could be doable, if everyone else on our team (outside of the Jays and white) are making under $10mil a year and everyone else is just on rookie contracts for minimum contracts except for Pritchard and a starting C (under $10mil a year)

Not to sidetrack the Hugo thread though :)

Not to further sidetrack the thread. But I think Simons is gonna take a big downward revision in his annual salary. Gary Trent Jr just signed 2 yrs for $7.5 and it seems the market has sobered up on the Simons archetype.

If we keep Anfernee Simons, I think it's gonna be at a way lower number ... if he even lasts long enough that he isn't traded this summer because of the Celts tax problem


His salary for next year is set.

I think they are speaking of next year as in 26/27. 25/26 is now this year :)
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Post#166 » by cloverleaf » Fri Jul 4, 2025 2:26 pm

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redslastlaugh wrote:Not to further sidetrack the thread. But I think Simons is gonna take a big downward revision in his annual salary. Gary Trent Jr just signed 2 yrs for $7.5 and it seems the market has sobered up on the Simons archetype.

If we keep Anfernee Simons, I think it's gonna be at a way lower number ... if he even lasts long enough that he isn't traded this summer because of the Celts tax problem


His salary for next year is set.

I think they are speaking of next year as in 26/27. 25/26 is now this year :)


God help us, I don't want him on the team at all, let alone resigned!
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Post#167 » by Gant » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:00 pm

John Karalis:

It’s pronounced “Oogo” Gonzalez. He told us himself. Don’t use the “H” around him.
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Post#168 » by Shak_Celts » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:13 pm

Gant wrote:John Karalis:

It’s pronounced “Oogo” Gonzalez. He told us himself. Don’t use the “H” around him.

Thank you!!!!
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Post#169 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 8:17 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
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His salary for next year is set.

I think they are speaking of next year as in 26/27. 25/26 is now this year :)


God help us, I don't want him on the team at all, let alone resigned!

Speak for yourself :)
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Post#170 » by Bill Lumbergh » Fri Jul 4, 2025 8:30 pm

Now, if we can just get people to stop writing Simons name as Simmons we'll be in business. :wink:
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Post#171 » by cloverleaf » Fri Jul 4, 2025 8:46 pm

Hal14 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:I think they are speaking of next year as in 26/27. 25/26 is now this year :)


God help us, I don't want him on the team at all, let alone resigned!

Speak for yourself :)


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Post#172 » by Bar Fight » Fri Jul 4, 2025 10:24 pm

So is he playing Summer league?
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Post#173 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:44 pm

Chucking Darts pod reviews Celtics draft at 2:31:42
Chuck is not that high on our picks.

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Post#174 » by SuperDeluxe » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:54 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Chucking Darts pod reviews Celtics draft at 2:31:42
Chuck is not that high on our picks.


I don't know this guy but I don't like him anymore.
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Post#175 » by Bill Lumbergh » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:09 am

SuperDeluxe wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Chucking Darts pod reviews Celtics draft at 2:31:42
Chuck is not that high on our picks.


I don't know this guy but I don't like him anymore.

That reminds me of an instructor who was getting frustrated with me. I told him, please be patient, I'm on the spectrum. He said "I don't know what that is, but you better get off it right now." Ba dum, tsss.
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Post#176 » by brackdan70 » Sat Jul 5, 2025 2:52 pm

Bar Fight wrote:So is he playing Summer league?

I don’t think so. I remember seeing something that he will play in Europe for the summer. Can’t seem to find that though…
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Post#177 » by brackdan70 » Sat Jul 5, 2025 2:54 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:So is he playing Summer league?

I don’t think so. I remember seeing something that he will play in Europe for the summer. Can’t seem to find that though…

Though he did tell the Media the other day he wants to play in summer league so IDK….
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Post#178 » by Hal14 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:03 am

brackdan70 wrote:
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Bar Fight wrote:So is he playing Summer league?

I don’t think so. I remember seeing something that he will play in Europe for the summer. Can’t seem to find that though…

Though he did tell the Media the other day he wants to play in summer league so IDK….

He's not on Spain's eurobasket team for this summer. And he was in a summer league practice clip that the Celtics posted on social media so I would assume Hugo is playing summer league, yeah..
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Post#179 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:50 am

redslastlaugh wrote:Chucking Darts pod reviews Celtics draft at 2:31:42
Chuck is not that high on our picks.


Gonzalez isn't a perfect prospect, he wouldn't have lasted until 28 otherwise but to put Williams in the same ballpark as a prospect let alone above is absolutely wild. I went back to see what he had to say about the Celtics 2024 draft class and he starts by saying he had Scheierman and Watson ranked right next to each other. He is at least consistent in overvaluing bigs that can't shoot over multifaceted wings, although I don't know why anybody who has watched any NBA content in the last decade would do that. So yeah, I don't think I'll bother seeking out his opinion on future Celtics draft classes.
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Post#180 » by Parliament10 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 6:04 am

Bar Fight wrote:So is he playing Summer league?

brackdan70 wrote:I don’t think so. I remember seeing something that he will play in Europe for the summer. Can’t seem to find that though…

brackdan70 wrote:Though he did tell the Media the other day he wants to play in summer league so IDK….

Hal14 wrote:He's not on Spain's eurobasket team for this summer. And he was in a summer league practice clip that the Celtics posted on social media so I would assume Hugo is playing summer league, yeah..

Yeah, I think that he's playing in Summer League. He's practicing with the Team.

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