Trade Ideas Thread

[Darth Celtic]

Would you be interested in LouWill if true?

34 and making 8m. The 8m is bargain. Age 34 doesn't fit our timeline. We will be good for the next 2 years, but probably best in 3 when tatum/brown are in prime and guys like KD and Lebron are doing movies.

So vinny sexy pants, semi, edwards, kanter and our first for Lou? i mean, at the cost of basically nothing I'd do it.

[100proof]

Would you be interested in LouWill if true?

34 and making 8m. The 8m is bargain. Age 34 doesn't fit our timeline. We will be good for the next 2 years, but probably best in 3 when tatum/brown are in prime and guys like KD and Lebron are doing movies.

So vinny sexy pants, semi, edwards, kanter and our first for Lou? i mean, at the cost of basically nothing I'd do it.

I think it plays out differently.

A hayward trade to create a TPE or another player first.

hypothetical!!!

Hayward and Vinny to Dallas
Wright to LAC
THJ, Lou Will 18 and 31 to Boston

(Then can flip 14, 18 to Detroit for their pick.)

Kemba/Haliburton
Smart/LouWIll
Brown/THJ
Tatum/GrantW
Theis/Kanter

[Darth Celtic]

Would you be interested in LouWill if true?

34 and making 8m. The 8m is bargain. Age 34 doesn't fit our timeline. We will be good for the next 2 years, but probably best in 3 when tatum/brown are in prime and guys like KD and Lebron are doing movies.

So vinny sexy pants, semi, edwards, kanter and our first for Lou? i mean, at the cost of basically nothing I'd do it.

I think it plays out differently.

A hayward trade to create a TPE or another player first.

hypothetical!!!

Hayward and Vinny to Dallas
Wright to LAC
THJ, Lou Will 18 and 31 to Boston

(Then can flip 14, 18 to Detroit for their pick.)

Kemba/Haliburton
Smart/LouWIll
Brown/THJ
Tatum/GrantW
Theis/Kanter

that doesn't fit the mavs timeline. the 2 core pieces of mavs are 21 and 25. Moving THJ who is 28 for 30 often injured hayward makes no sense unless they really think they could use the money in 2021. But even then, they have a lot of salary already and would be hard pressed to add a max contract.

[100proof]

Would you be interested in LouWill if true?

Are there strip clubs and lemon pepper wings in Boston?

kinda nice being requested though.

He could help alot as a sparkplug off the bench.

[100proof]

34 and making 8m. The 8m is bargain. Age 34 doesn't fit our timeline. We will be good for the next 2 years, but probably best in 3 when tatum/brown are in prime and guys like KD and Lebron are doing movies.

So vinny sexy pants, semi, edwards, kanter and our first for Lou? i mean, at the cost of basically nothing I'd do it.

I think it plays out differently.

A hayward trade to create a TPE or another player first.

hypothetical!!!

Hayward and Vinny to Dallas
Wright to LAC
THJ, Lou Will 18 and 31 to Boston

(Then can flip 14, 18 to Detroit for their pick.)

Kemba/Haliburton
Smart/LouWIll
Brown/THJ
Tatum/GrantW
Theis/Kanter

that doesn't fit the mavs timeline. the 2 core pieces of mavs are 21 and 25. Moving THJ who is 28 for 30 often injured hayward makes no sense unless they really think they could use the money in 2021. But even then, they have a lot of salary already and would be hard pressed to add a max contract.

They want the money in 2021. The Hayward>>Wright/thj and picks has been liked by Mavs posters at least for some time. They also believe that Hayward is an ideal compliment as he can do a bit of everything. Which takes pressure of of Luka to.

[ConstableGeneva]

34 and making 8m. The 8m is bargain. Age 34 doesn't fit our timeline. We will be good for the next 2 years, but probably best in 3 when tatum/brown are in prime and guys like KD and Lebron are doing movies.

So vinny sexy pants, semi, edwards, kanter and our first for Lou? i mean, at the cost of basically nothing I'd do it.

I think it plays out differently.

A hayward trade to create a TPE or another player first.

hypothetical!!!

Hayward and Vinny to Dallas
Wright to LAC
THJ, Lou Will 18 and 31 to Boston

(Then can flip 14, 18 to Detroit for their pick.)

Kemba/Haliburton
Smart/LouWIll
Brown/THJ
Tatum/GrantW
Theis/Kanter

that doesn't fit the mavs timeline. the 2 core pieces of mavs are 21 and 25. Moving THJ who is 28 for 30 often injured hayward makes no sense unless they really think they could use the money in 2021. But even then, they have a lot of salary already and would be hard pressed to add a max contract.

Not a fan of the particular trade proposed but...

Weren't they rumored to go after Kemba Walker and Al Horford during the offseason? So age might not be a huge issue. Hayward's injury history could give them pause esp since Porzingis seems to be dinged up often too already, but Hayward would be a great fit as a secondary ballhandler for Dallas whenever Doncic sits or when he's doubled/trapped.

[Curmudgeon]

Assuming the cap stays at $109, there are only about a half dozen teams that will have enough cap space to create a large TPE in a Hayward deal, and most of them are bad teams (e.g. Charlotte, Atlanta, New York). Some three team deals might work.

[100proof]

I think it plays out differently.

A hayward trade to create a TPE or another player first.

hypothetical!!!

Hayward and Vinny to Dallas
Wright to LAC
THJ, Lou Will 18 and 31 to Boston

(Then can flip 14, 18 to Detroit for their pick.)

Kemba/Haliburton
Smart/LouWIll
Brown/THJ
Tatum/GrantW
Theis/Kanter

that doesn't fit the mavs timeline. the 2 core pieces of mavs are 21 and 25. Moving THJ who is 28 for 30 often injured hayward makes no sense unless they really think they could use the money in 2021. But even then, they have a lot of salary already and would be hard pressed to add a max contract.

Not a fan of the particular trade proposed but...

Weren't they rumored to go after Kemba Walker and Al Horford during the offseason? So age might not be a huge issue. Hayward's injury history could give them pause esp since Porzingis seems to be dinged up often too already, but Hayward would be a great fit as a secondary ballhandler for Dallas whenever Doncic sits or when he's doubled/trapped.

Hell, Send em Kemba then. lol

Smart/Haliburton
Brown/Lou Will
Hayward/THJ
Tatum/GrantW
Theis/Kanter

[SmartWentCrazy]

Would you be interested in LouWill if true?

Is this real? I dont see this anywhere.

[Feed Your Head]

Would you be interested in LouWill if true?

Is this real? I dont see this anywhere.

No.

[BK_2020]

Myles Turner is a guy who looks like he would be a tall and springy defender. But there must be a reason why he can’t even find a place on a middling team like the Pacers. What is it?
The answer is exceedingly simple. Turner is actually pretty awful on defense, which is a devastating flaw for a guy whose main calling card is defense.
Below is a summary of what some stats reveal juxtaposed to Daniel Theis, a guy who Turner is supposed to represent a massive upgrade from. Results filtered for centers who played substantial minutes (something like 40 GP, more than 20-24mins per game). Anyone with a brain should be able to conclude that Myles Turner is not worth $18 mil he is getting paid and if a team wants him for whatever reason they should be able to wrest a draft pick out of Indiana.
By the way doing this little exercise taught me once again just how amazing Marc Gasol is. BOS should be doing everything to sign Gasol, even for the full MLE.

Defensive Rating
Theis = 104, #4
Turner = 106.7, #10
Opp FG%, 24 mins, 40 GP C
Theis = 43.8%, #5,
Turner = 44.3%, #8

2 Pt shots contested
Theis = 12.2, #8
Turner = 10.7, tied for #23

3 Pt shots contested
Theis = 4.2, #8
Turner = 2.9, tied for #36, tied with Jokic and below Kevin Love

Opponent Shooting inside 5 feet (at least 700 FGA by opponents)
Theis = 56.6, #4
Turner = 58.6, #9

Opp Turnovers per 100 possessions
Theis = 15.1
Turner = 14.4

Opp Assist per 36
Theis = 16.8, #9
Turner = 17.4, #14

OPP Points per 36
Theis = #6, 78.3
Turner = #9, 79.0

Deflections per 36
Turner = 1.9, #26
Theis = 2.7 #8

Charges drawn
Theis = 0.2
Turner = 0.1

[MagicBagley18]

There's no way to do it and not have it be a PR nightmare, but man I wish we could shop Kemba.

I think what we saw in the playoffs is basically what we're going to get from him moving forward in those types of games and that's at max money and an ailing knee.

This PR aspect is always talked about and then Ainge goes ahead and does whatever he wants and people get over it. Sure people like Kemba but how long has he been here? There's not pictures of him all over Boston like there were for IT and Ainge traded him. Not that you said it, but I've heard some form of this line a million times- "If you trade someone too soon after signing them future free agents won't want to come" and yet I can't think of an example of that ever happening with any team. I've never heard a player say they don't want to go somewhere because they traded someone.

It literally just happened with AD’s dad bring up us trading IT.....a year ago

[SmartWentCrazy]

There's no way to do it and not have it be a PR nightmare, but man I wish we could shop Kemba.

I think what we saw in the playoffs is basically what we're going to get from him moving forward in those types of games and that's at max money and an ailing knee.

This PR aspect is always talked about and then Ainge goes ahead and does whatever he wants and people get over it. Sure people like Kemba but how long has he been here? There's not pictures of him all over Boston like there were for IT and Ainge traded him. Not that you said it, but I've heard some form of this line a million times- "If you trade someone too soon after signing them future free agents won't want to come" and yet I can't think of an example of that ever happening with any team. I've never heard a player say they don't want to go somewhere because they traded someone.

It literally just happened with AD’s dad bring up us trading IT.....a year ago

Yep, and given all the PR we’ve spun regarding his locker room presence, there is ZERO chance we trade him. Its just an impossibly bad look.

[TheMartian]

Would you be interested in LouWill if true?

Is this real? I dont see this anywhere.

No.

Yeah, just saw it sonmewhere. Looked up the Instagram and it's been spewing fake news like Westbrook being traded to the Knicks, etc.

[BK_2020]

Oh but we need Myles Turner to save us against the bigger, physical centers right? Guys like Embiid and BAM, right?
How do NBA's centers fare when playing against Myles Turner?
Joel Embiid - 28.4 PPG on .505 FG%, basically a 5 points per game and 3% increase in FG%.
BAM - 10.0 PPG on 62.7 FG% in 19.8 mins per game. Numbers affected due to many games coming when he was inexperienced.
Marc Gasol - 20.0 PPG on .452 FG%. Most of his games against Turner came when he was with Toronto averaging 10 ppg.
Steven Adams - 15.6 PPG on .667 FG%.
Dwight Howard - 15.2 PPG on .688 FG%. This is not prime Dwight, this is recent Dwight.
Basically if you are a center with a physical inside game you will turn into prime Shaq if Myles Turner is guarding you.

[ddb]

Oh but we need Myles Turner to save us against the bigger, physical centers right? Guys like Embiid and BAM, right?
How do NBA's centers fare when playing against Myles Turner?
Joel Embiid - 28.4 PPG on .505 FG%, basically a 5 points per game and 3% increase in FG%.
BAM - 10.0 PPG on 62.7 FG% in 19.8 mins per game. Numbers affected due to many games coming when he was inexperienced.
Marc Gasol - 20.0 PPG on .452 FG%. Most of his games against Turner came when he was with Toronto averaging 10 ppg.
Steven Adams - 15.6 PPG on .667 FG%.
Dwight Howard - 15.2 PPG on .688 FG%. This is not prime Dwight, this is recent Dwight.
Basically if you are a center with a physical inside game you will turn into prime Shaq if Myles Turner is guarding you.

I don't think anybody on here is saying the guy is Anthony Davis or KAT. So let's look at the scope here. Turner is 24 years old. 6'11. He hits his FT's. He's a good 3pt shooter. He's an excellent shot blocker. He can RIM run. He doesn't need plays drawn up to stay involved. Great length in the post. He's a really, really good kid and a good teammate.
Weaknesses: he leaves you wanting more because he looks like he could dominate, but he doesn't. Not a bulldog down low, although has the frame to get stronger which I think he will in his mid to late 20's.

[BK_2020]

Turner PROs: He looks like he should play good defense.
Turner CONs: He doesn't.
I don't like this Turner guy too much. You don't roll the dice on a 24 year old guy with 5 years in the league hoping he will suddenly stop sucking. Not when he's making $18 mil. per season.

[flintsky21]

If Okungwu is somehow still available at 7, I'd do Hayward / Theis / #14 / #26 for #7 / Kennard / Griffin.

Addresses our need for a shooter/scorer off the bench, Okungwu just might be Bam 2.0. If Griffin somehow becomes healthy, that's a huge addition. If not, he'll be an expiring for 21-22 season.

[MagicBagley18]

Oh but we need Myles Turner to save us against the bigger, physical centers right? Guys like Embiid and BAM, right?
How do NBA's centers fare when playing against Myles Turner?
Joel Embiid - 28.4 PPG on .505 FG%, basically a 5 points per game and 3% increase in FG%.
BAM - 10.0 PPG on 62.7 FG% in 19.8 mins per game. Numbers affected due to many games coming when he was inexperienced.
Marc Gasol - 20.0 PPG on .452 FG%. Most of his games against Turner came when he was with Toronto averaging 10 ppg.
Steven Adams - 15.6 PPG on .667 FG%.
Dwight Howard - 15.2 PPG on .688 FG%. This is not prime Dwight, this is recent Dwight.
Basically if you are a center with a physical inside game you will turn into prime Shaq if Myles Turner is guarding you.

I don't think anybody on here is saying the guy is Anthony Davis or KAT. So let's look at the scope here. Turner is 24 years old. 6'11. He hits his FT's. He's a good 3pt shooter. He's an excellent shot blocker. He can RIM run. He doesn't need plays drawn up to stay involved. Great length in the post. He's a really, really good kid and a good teammate.
Weaknesses: he leaves you wanting more because he looks like he could dominate, but he doesn't. Not a bulldog down low, although has the frame to get stronger which I think he will in his mid to late 20's.

Not a bulldog down low no but I think he’s def more of an imposing presence than theis. In that series against the pacers last season he really made an impact in the paint. He was altering kyries shot and made it hard on our guys.

Theis overall has been good for Boston- the question becomes then if theis can become a very serviceable center here in Boston then how good could turner be surrounded by wing defenders like smart, Tatum, brown and him already being more athletically gifted, more physical and bigger than theis

[BK_2020]

If Turner is more imposing in the paint then why do NBA players find it so much easier to score against him than Theis?