Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't

[Larry_Russell]

Don't shoot the messenger, but a Rumor of Josh Hart + Mitchell Robinson for Jrue and KP is now out there. Knicks thinking Jrue is a more reliable shooter and obviously KP far better on offense. Too lazy to see how the money works. But interesting to say the least.

I take that and run honestly.

Mitchell is a nice player and Josh is another Derrick White level impact player.

Honestly, just have Mitchell work with a shooting coach / Tatum non stop. If he developed a solid midrange jumper he is a great player, imo.

Pass on Mitchell. Dude is a liability with his horrible free throw shooting. Unplayeable at crunch time. We need two way players. Hart is a nice player though

Probably flip mitchell to the lakers honestly.



Jrue to Knicks
Robinson to Lakers

Hart and Vanderbilt to Celtics.

White/Pritchard
Brown/Scheierman
Hart/Hauser/Walsh
Vanderbilt/Horford??
Kristaps/Kornet

Pretty good honestly. Hart brings that toughness that is missing.


Obviously more moves would be needed (probs drop KP for the savings, maybe Hauser, and let youth play more)

[165bows]

Watching Josh Hart act like a giant bitch in the playoffs he could def replace Tatum's whining to the refs so there's that

[RickyDizzle]

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I take that and run honestly.

Mitchell is a nice player and Josh is another Derrick White level impact player.

Honestly, just have Mitchell work with a shooting coach / Tatum non stop. If he developed a solid midrange jumper he is a great player, imo.

Pass on Mitchell. Dude is a liability with his horrible free throw shooting. Unplayeable at crunch time. We need two way players. Hart is a nice player though

Probably flip mitchell to the lakers honestly.



Jrue to Knicks
Robinson to Lakers

Hart and Vanderbilt to Celtics.

White/Pritchard
Brown/Scheierman
Hart/Hauser/Walsh
Vanderbilt/Horford??
Kristaps/Kornet

Pretty good honestly. Hart brings that toughness that is missing.


Obviously more moves would be needed (probs drop KP for the savings, maybe Hauser, and let youth play more)

Not to insult Jrue and I appreciate his contributions to our title, but why would the Knicks prefer him to Hart? Their best player is a point guard and Hart is a solid player and big part of their identity. Jrues contract is not good.

[phincsfan]

I want a lottery pick this draft so the C's can start a rebuild with a young big like Queen, Sorber or Maluach. White is the only possible move that the C's can get a lottery pick this draft.

C's get Huerter, Jamison Battle and #9 and 27' 1st from Raps

Bulls get RJ Barrett

Raps get DWhite, Dalen Terry and Jevon Carter

C's draft the best big available at #9 which should definitely be Maluach, Queen or Sorber.

Huerter can make moving off Hauser this offseason a little easier. Plus he's only on the books for 25/26.

I'm a big fan of Battle and his upside potential.

[phincsfan]

I want a lottery pick this draft so the C's can start a rebuild with a young big like Queen, Sorber or Maluach. White is the only possible move that the C's can get a lottery pick this draft.

C's get Londale, A Holiday, Whitmore and #10

Rockets get White

[Larry_Russell]

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Pass on Mitchell. Dude is a liability with his horrible free throw shooting. Unplayeable at crunch time. We need two way players. Hart is a nice player though

Probably flip mitchell to the lakers honestly.



Jrue to Knicks
Robinson to Lakers

Hart and Vanderbilt to Celtics.

White/Pritchard
Brown/Scheierman
Hart/Hauser/Walsh
Vanderbilt/Horford??
Kristaps/Kornet

Pretty good honestly. Hart brings that toughness that is missing.


Obviously more moves would be needed (probs drop KP for the savings, maybe Hauser, and let youth play more)

Not to insult Jrue and I appreciate his contributions to our title, but why would the Knicks prefer him to Hart? Their best player is a point guard and Hart is a solid player and big part of their identity. Jrues contract is not good.

I agree with you.

Not sure why they would do it honestly. Maybe they feel like jrue brings what Hart does but also is a superior shooter with a championship pedigree?

[Celts17Pride]

FWIW: Rumor season.

Cavs insider Chris Fedor recently suggested an intriguing trade idea involving Garland and Orlando Magic guard Jalen Suggs, via Cleveland Cavaliers on cleveland.com's YouTube channel.

“I think there’s a framework, and I say framework because salary stuff becomes very, very difficult for the Cavs,” Fedor said. “So, you’re just talking about a general framework with an understanding that other pieces are probably going to have to be involved. Maybe a third team is going to have to be involved. Matching salary becomes very, very difficult when you’re talking about the Cavs and the salary situation that they’re in. But I think there’s a framework of a deal between the Cavs and the Magic that would involve Darius Garland and Jalen Suggs.”

[Bill Lumbergh]

I will still be surprised if we don't have to attach a pick to get off of Jrue's contract.

[yeleven11]

I will still be surprised if we don't have to attach a pick to get off of Jrue's contract.

I will be surprised if the celtics don’t get positive value for Jrue. I don’t think he’ll have a ton of suitors but the 3-4 suitors he has will be VERY interested.

[WeLikeOurGuys]

What could Derrick White get us in return?

I know I’ll probably get some pushback for even bringing this up, but outside of the Jays, White probably has the most trade value on the team. If Tatum isn’t coming back next year, White will be 32 by the time we’re realistically playing competitive playoff basketball again. That timing matters.

For me, this offseason really hinges on Tatum’s timeline. If he's out for an extended period, it makes sense to at least explore what White could return — whether that’s younger talent, picks, or a better long-term fit.

Maybe you even end up keeping Jrue over White, especially if you’d need to attach assets just to move Jrue’s contract. That kind of trade-off might make more sense depending on how the rest of the roster shakes out.

[Bill Lumbergh]

I will still be surprised if we don't have to attach a pick to get off of Jrue's contract.

I will be surprised if the celtics don’t get positive value for Jrue. I don’t think he’ll have a ton of suitors but the 3-4 suitors he has will be VERY interested.

The good thing is, we shouldn't have too long to find out. We're going to be much worse next year, but this will be an exciting off-season.

[Celts17Pride]

I will still be surprised if we don't have to attach a pick to get off of Jrue's contract.

I will be surprised if the celtics don’t get positive value for Jrue. I don’t think he’ll have a ton of suitors but the 3-4 suitors he has will be VERY interested.

The good thing is, we shouldn't have too long to find out. We're going to be much worse next year, but this will be an exciting off-season.

We will see how things shake out in the off-season but I'm not buying the Celtics will be much worse argument. Celtics were 10-3 without Tatum last year and the Celtics still have a ton of talent. I could easily see a 50 win season, now I do agree it would be much tougher in the playoffs but Tatum could be back and the Celtics just lost in the 2nd round this year.

Again, the big wild card is what do the Celtics do in the off-season.

[Celts17Pride]

What could Derrick White get us in return?

I know I’ll probably get some pushback for even bringing this up, but outside of the Jays, White probably has the most trade value on the team. If Tatum isn’t coming back next year, White will be 32 by the time we’re realistically playing competitive playoff basketball again. That timing matters.

For me, this offseason really hinges on Tatum’s timeline. If he's out for an extended period, it makes sense to at least explore what White could return — whether that’s younger talent, picks, or a better long-term fit.

Maybe you even end up keeping Jrue over White, especially if you’d need to attach assets just to move Jrue’s contract. That kind of trade-off might make more sense depending on how the rest of the roster shakes out.

In my opinion, Derrick White should be the last player considered for the Celtics to move even ahead of Tatum or Brown when you factor in the production and his contract. It's a steal.

[hugepatsfan]

It's a pipe dream.

Giannis would cost the Cs JB or White and a lot of picks.

The Jays plus Giannis and White is not happening.

It would cost JB AND (not or) White and a lot of picks. If Tatum were healthy, that'd honestly be worth it. White/Brown for Giannis gets us below the 2nd apron even.

Pritchard
Jrue / Scheierman
Tatum / Hauser
Giannis
Porzinigs / Horford (would sign back for minimum if we got Giannis)

Maybe can keep Kornet too and then other minimum players too. if Tatum were healthy, that's a deal you push for and so would Giannis probably. But with Tatum out, Giannis likely passes.

[WeLikeOurGuys]

What could Derrick White get us in return?

I know I’ll probably get some pushback for even bringing this up, but outside of the Jays, White probably has the most trade value on the team. If Tatum isn’t coming back next year, White will be 32 by the time we’re realistically playing competitive playoff basketball again. That timing matters.

For me, this offseason really hinges on Tatum’s timeline. If he's out for an extended period, it makes sense to at least explore what White could return — whether that’s younger talent, picks, or a better long-term fit.

Maybe you even end up keeping Jrue over White, especially if you’d need to attach assets just to move Jrue’s contract. That kind of trade-off might make more sense depending on how the rest of the roster shakes out.

In my opinion, Derrick White should be the last player considered for the Celtics to move even ahead of Tatum or Brown when you factor in the production and his contract. It's a steal.

Oh I know — trust me, I love D. White. But if someone like Jalen Suggs can get you Darius Garland, I’m really curious what someone would give up for White. He’s more proven, a better defender, and plays winning basketball. If a team thinks they’re one steady guard away, his value might be even higher than we expect.

Again, it comes down to when they think Tatum will be "ready"

[GoCeltics123]

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This guy is a complete bozo on twitter but I've seen him get some inside intel before (I think he had us signing Gallo and Rob being out G3 vs the Bucks in 2022) before anyone else. Neither of these would surprise me if true

[Celts17Pride]

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This guy is a complete bozo on twitter but I've seen him get some inside intel before (I think he had us signing Gallo and Rob being out G3 vs the Bucks in 2022) before anyone else. Neither of these would surprise me if true

If the Celtics tank, they won't be contenders in 2 seasons. Just some more random twitter nonsense that is sure to pick up over the next 3 weeks.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

I saw a non Per Sources or Robot Dave rumor that Horford was considering the Knicks...

[GoCeltics123]

Read on Twitter

This guy is a complete bozo on twitter but I've seen him get some inside intel before (I think he had us signing Gallo and Rob being out G3 vs the Bucks in 2022) before anyone else. Neither of these would surprise me if true

If the Celtics tank, they won't be contenders in 2 seasons. Just some more random twitter nonsense that is sure to pick up over the next 3 weeks.

If their goal is to get under the tax and reset the repeater though, Jaylen is probably gone. And if team is led by DWhite next year, it'll probably be bad enough to tank by itself.

I don't want to trade Jaylen, but JT's injury puts it on the table. Before that, it was not on the table

[djFan71]

I won't go into the gory details, but I think you could turn Jrue, KP and Hauser into just Rui and Knecht and reset the tax. Maybe gain a 2nd or 2, maybe not.

Sign pick 28 to 120% scale.
Sign Kornet* for 3 years starting at $5M.

You have $2.6M left for roster spot 14. Fill it with 32, existing 2-way or vet min, etc

Pritchard, White, Brown, Rui, Kornet
JD, Sheierman, Knecht, Walsh, Queta
Tillman, 28, <spot 14>
x=> Tatum

You duck the tax.
Starting lineup is good, not great. Bench is YOUNG (experience wise, not age necessarily) but some talent there.
Get growth from hopefully 2-3 of the young guys, some more moves / our own pick next summer and you're in good shape for 26-27 with Tatum.


* Note: If Al wants back, split $7.6M between him and Kornet somehow.

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