Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice!

[Edug27]

All of the above.

So what if I were talking with Danny and he told me that he could get Melo for cheap

Yeah, I'm about to blow off work and get high too.

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[SmartWentCrazy]

People will bring up some quote of his (from this year I think) to counter what you are saying but I don't buy it either. I can bring up quotes from Durant about not joining super teams too. That stuff doesn't mean much. I see him staying with the Jazz.

Doesn't Durant leaving for marginally less money run counter to L2B's point that Hayward won't leave marginally more money on the table?

Huh? All I meant is that words mean nothing in this league. Not sure where you are taking this.

Not taking it anywhere, no aggression on my end at all, just confused and trying to have a discussion. My apologies if I misread it or put words on your mouth, but isn't L2B saying Hayward won't leave utah because they can offer the most money? And you said that you agreed and didn't see him leaving either?

Just saw Durant as an example for him leaving, not staying.

[truth18]

So what if I were talking with Danny and he told me that he could get Melo for cheap

Yeah, I'm about to blow off work and get high too.

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No, lol, it's an absurd question.

What world are you living in where the Knicks are a competent organization that will trade him to us for relatively fair value?

Same world where Bulls FO is amazing? Cause it's not the world I'm living in.

If cows were kittens there would be a milk shortage. They aren't. Knicks FO ain't dealing us to him cheap.

[truth18]

Doesn't Durant leaving for marginally less money run counter to L2B's point that Hayward won't leave marginally more money on the table?

Huh? All I meant is that words mean nothing in this league. Not sure where you are taking this.

Not taking it anywhere, no aggression on my end at all, just confused and trying to have a discussion. My apologies if I misread it or put words on your mouth, but isn't L2B saying Hayward won't leave utah because they can offer the most money? And you said that you agreed and didn't see him leaving either?

Just saw Durant as an example for him leaving, not staying.

Probably should have phrased what I was saying better. Hayward said earlier this year that he wants the best team situation not monetary situation (something along those lines), and maybe he meant it at the time but I put little value in athletes' words as of late. Durant was just an example of a hypocrite who went back on his words (that tweet about not joining super teams).

[Edug27]

Yeah, I'm about to blow off work and get high too.

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No, lol, it's an absurd question.

What world are you living in where the Knicks are a competent organization that will trade him to us for relatively fair value?

Same world where Bulls FO is amazing? Cause it's not the world I'm living in.

Well for starters.. Melo has a no trade clause. Which eliminates all chances they get fair value for him. They either let his contract expire, or take a protected pick, some young mediocre players and expiring contracts for him. Melos short list of teams to be traded to don't even have fair value to give up. So if reports are correct that they are forcing him to "want" to be traded, then Phil is aware and ok with this.

[truth18]

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No, lol, it's an absurd question.

What world are you living in where the Knicks are a competent organization that will trade him to us for relatively fair value?

Same world where Bulls FO is amazing? Cause it's not the world I'm living in.

Well for starters.. Melo has a no trade clause. Which eliminates all chances they get fair value for him. They either let his contract expire, or take a protected pick, some young mediocre players and expiring contracts for him. Melos short list of teams to be traded to don't even have fair value to give up. So if reports are correct that they are forcing him to "want" to be traded, then Phil is aware and ok with this.

You seem to think that the Knicks are going to be pragmatic and rational regarding Melo. Humorous. We will just have to agree to disagree and see what happens.

[Edug27]

No, lol, it's an absurd question.

What world are you living in where the Knicks are a competent organization that will trade him to us for relatively fair value?

Same world where Bulls FO is amazing? Cause it's not the world I'm living in.

Well for starters.. Melo has a no trade clause. Which eliminates all chances they get fair value for him. They either let his contract expire, or take a protected pick, some young mediocre players and expiring contracts for him. Melos short list of teams to be traded to don't even have fair value to give up. So if reports are correct that they are forcing him to "want" to be traded, then Phil is aware and ok with this.

You seem to think that the Knicks are going to be pragmatic and rational regarding Melo. Humorous. We will just have to agree to disagree and see what happens.

All I'm saying is that there are only 2 realistic scenarios here.

1. Knicks play it out and let his deal expire.

2. Phil wants him off the roster so badly that they take less than "fair value" to get it done.

To think a contender is going to give up fair value for Melo is nonsense. NY doesn't hold the power here. Everything is pointing to Melo being OK with playing this thing out. The ball is in Phils court.

[Captain_Caveman]

Truthfully, if Denver resigned Gallo it would be worse for them, which they might end up doing because of "loyalty." Denver went to Gallo last year to trade him, Gallo declined so they held on to him. Now watch them not trade Gallo and sign him to a huge deal.

I could honestly see us giving up a lesser pick for Gallo at the deadline. Slide Crowder to PF and Horford to C.

[165bows]

Well for starters.. Melo has a no trade clause. Which eliminates all chances they get fair value for him. They either let his contract expire, or take a protected pick, some young mediocre players and expiring contracts for him. Melos short list of teams to be traded to don't even have fair value to give up. So if reports are correct that they are forcing him to "want" to be traded, then Phil is aware and ok with this.

You seem to think that the Knicks are going to be pragmatic and rational regarding Melo. Humorous. We will just have to agree to disagree and see what happens.

All I'm saying is that there are only 2 realistic scenarios here.

1. Knicks play it out and let his deal expire.

2. Phil wants him off the roster so badly that they take less than "fair value" to get it done.

To think a contender is going to give up fair value for Melo is nonsense. NY doesn't hold the power here. Everything is pointing to Melo being OK with playing this thing out. The ball is in Phils court.

I have no idea what's happening there, but based on the reports, doesn't it seem like they want to move him and he won't consent to waiving his no trade clause?

[truth18]

Well for starters.. Melo has a no trade clause. Which eliminates all chances they get fair value for him. They either let his contract expire, or take a protected pick, some young mediocre players and expiring contracts for him. Melos short list of teams to be traded to don't even have fair value to give up. So if reports are correct that they are forcing him to "want" to be traded, then Phil is aware and ok with this.

You seem to think that the Knicks are going to be pragmatic and rational regarding Melo. Humorous. We will just have to agree to disagree and see what happens.

All I'm saying is that there are only 2 realistic scenarios here.

1. Knicks play it out and let his deal expire.

2. Phil wants him off the roster so badly that they take less than "fair value" to get it done.

To think a contender is going to give up fair value for Melo is nonsense. NY doesn't hold the power here. Everything is pointing to Melo being OK with playing this thing out. The ball is in Phils court.

Precisely. Understand my first post better now? Melo isn't coming here. He may not be going anywhere.

[Edug27]

You seem to think that the Knicks are going to be pragmatic and rational regarding Melo. Humorous. We will just have to agree to disagree and see what happens.

All I'm saying is that there are only 2 realistic scenarios here.

1. Knicks play it out and let his deal expire.

2. Phil wants him off the roster so badly that they take less than "fair value" to get it done.

To think a contender is going to give up fair value for Melo is nonsense. NY doesn't hold the power here. Everything is pointing to Melo being OK with playing this thing out. The ball is in Phils court.

Precisely. Understand my first post better now? Melo isn't coming here. He may not be going anywhere.

I took NoCuz and NoMelo as "not good fits here". But if that's your logic then allow me to further it... NoElitePlayer

[Captain_Caveman]

Yeah, I'm about to blow off work and get high too.

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Question.

No, lol, it's an absurd question.

What world are you living in where the Knicks are a competent organization that will trade him to us for relatively fair value?

Same world where Bulls FO is amazing? Cause it's not the world I'm living in.

If cows were kittens there would be a milk shortage. They aren't. Knicks FO ain't dealing us to him cheap.

Not sure. Amir/Zeller and lesser picks could get it done. The waters are already poisoned in terms of keeping him, and there won't be much of a market for him -- which will only be further constrained by his no-trade.

I 100% agree with you on him being a POS that we shouldn't trade for, I just think the Knicks are in a bad spot. They need to hit reset and dump some ballast.

[Captain_Caveman]

Well for starters.. Melo has a no trade clause. Which eliminates all chances they get fair value for him. They either let his contract expire, or take a protected pick, some young mediocre players and expiring contracts for him. Melos short list of teams to be traded to don't even have fair value to give up. So if reports are correct that they are forcing him to "want" to be traded, then Phil is aware and ok with this.

You seem to think that the Knicks are going to be pragmatic and rational regarding Melo. Humorous. We will just have to agree to disagree and see what happens.

All I'm saying is that there are only 2 realistic scenarios here.

1. Knicks play it out and let his deal expire.

2. Phil wants him off the roster so badly that they take less than "fair value" to get it done.

To think a contender is going to give up fair value for Melo is nonsense. NY doesn't hold the power here. Everything is pointing to Melo being OK with playing this thing out. The ball is in Phils court.

I bet it is #2. His massive player option for 2019-20 is a problem for them, and no way can they take this another 2.5 years.

[chrisab123]

The conversation ends with Melo unwilling to waive his clause to go to Boston. His wife and her career would be hurt by the move. Better chance of going to Brooklyn or LA to be honest.

[2Mas]

People really think Hayward going to take less money to come here? I don't see it personally.

No shot. Top 4 team in the west. a point guard who wants to let Hayward be the #1 option. A perfect complimentary 2 guard in Hood. one of the best rim protecting bigs in the league in Gobert. All he needs is Lyles to move Favors out to open up the court for it be ideal for him.

We're not getting Hayward. I'd love to, just don't see it though.

[truth18]

All I'm saying is that there are only 2 realistic scenarios here.

1. Knicks play it out and let his deal expire.

2. Phil wants him off the roster so badly that they take less than "fair value" to get it done.

To think a contender is going to give up fair value for Melo is nonsense. NY doesn't hold the power here. Everything is pointing to Melo being OK with playing this thing out. The ball is in Phils court.

Precisely. Understand my first post better now? Melo isn't coming here. He may not be going anywhere.

I took NoCuz and NoMelo as "not good fits here". But if that's your logic then allow me to further it... NoElitePlayer

Oh, I mean I hate the fit here as well if that's important.

I honestly don't see us acquiring an elite player anytime soon.

[Captain_Caveman]

The conversation ends with Melo unwilling to waive his clause to go to Boston. His wife and her career would be hurt by the move. Better chance of going to Brooklyn or LA to be honest.

Not sure about that, either.

How exactly does he get to LA, and why does he waive a no-trade to go die on the vine in Brooklyn?

I think the conversation ends when Ainge hangs up the phone, personally. But the Knicks and Melo both in a bad spot here.

[2Mas]

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Question.

No, lol, it's an absurd question.

What world are you living in where the Knicks are a competent organization that will trade him to us for relatively fair value?

Same world where Bulls FO is amazing? Cause it's not the world I'm living in.

If cows were kittens there would be a milk shortage. They aren't. Knicks FO ain't dealing us to him cheap.

Not sure. Amir/Zeller and lesser picks could get it done. The waters are already poisoned in terms of keeping him, and there won't be much of a market for him -- which will only be further constrained by his no-trade.

I 100% agree with you on him being a POS that we shouldn't trade for, I just think the Knicks are in a bad spot. They need to hit reset and dump some ballast.

Why is he a POS? Cause he shoots a lot on mediocre efficiency? What he got an ego? Yeah, he's a pro athlete, he better think highly of himself.

You don't know that man. That is so irritating to me. That's like me basing me like for you on your views on the Celtics. You wanna trade Smart? - must be a POS.

Come on man. You're better than saying dumb **** like that.

[truth18]

The conversation ends with Melo unwilling to waive his clause to go to Boston. His wife and her career would be hurt by the move. Better chance of going to Brooklyn or LA to be honest.

I think the conversation ends when Ainge hangs up the phone, personally.

This.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The conversation ends with Melo unwilling to waive his clause to go to Boston. His wife and her career would be hurt by the move. Better chance of going to Brooklyn or LA to be honest.

She doesn't have much of a career, unless you count showing your tits on the Starz network as a career.

Spoiler:

Lala does have some nice boobs though.