Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls

[ajones9219]

Im not saying Kawhi isn't going to the Lakers, but a guy who is so open about being a real insider on twitter probably isn't real....Can't imagine him continuing to get info if he was openly leaking it non stop

[Brisbane_Celtic]

I saw rumours that we signed Kanter. Anyone confirm?

[Celtic Esquire]

A few quotes from a so-called Lakers' "insider."

Kawhi is reportedly pleased that he will have a direct line to Jeanie Buss for any and all situations, as well as the freedom to have personal staff members onboard, similar to LeBron James. Lakers officials, I'm told, have expressed to Kawhi and his camp that they will treat him as a franchise cornerstone and will do everything in their power to ensure he has a long, healthy career as a Los Angeles Laker. They emphasized that given the star power on the roster, Kawhi will have no issues taking nights off as needed, under the supervision of Judy Seto.

LeBron independently expressed that as his career winds down, he is comfortable conceding the spotlight to both Kawhi Leonard and Anthony Davis. He mentioned that after his championship in Cleveland, he's satisfied with his time as the undisputed primary option, and now would like to focus on extending his career to hopefully cross paths with his oldest son.

Best Regards,
Mr. Rambis

Lakers high confidence stems from the fact that they felt the primary holdup was centered around Kawhi's distrust of the front office and the rumored lack of professionalism in organizational operations and structure. At this point, their belief is those concerns, for the most part, have been quelled.

-Mr. Rambis

Their belief is that regardless of any further communication and meetings between the Lakers and Kawhi, Kawhi will allow the Raptors to get the last word in before he makes his decision.

-Mr. Rambis

http://lakersball.com/threads/kawhi-laonard-discussion-%E2%80%9Ci%E2%80%99m-a-fun-guy-%E2%80%9D.3078/page-321

[Scarletfire81]

I saw rumours that we signed Kanter. Anyone confirm?

Yes he’s a Celtic.

[NYCelticsfan136]

All this crying about Super Teams. Wtf. The NBA is what it is, nothing new. Move on if you do not like the product.

It ruins the product. Don’t you get that? If the warriors had been healthy you think the raptors win the title? We would be lamenting another warriors championship.

[Green89]

Apparently RDA was wrong about Jimmy to the Clipps. So hope he’s wrong here..

Broussard and RDA are the two main sources stating it's the Lakers right now. Broussard was also saying KD was staying in Golden State right before the Woj bomb dropped of him going to Brooklyn.

[GoGreen]

All this crying about Super Teams. Wtf. The NBA is what it is, nothing new. Move on if you do not like the product.

I love the product. I hate the idea of kawhi teaming up with lebron and ad. I think that's something to be pissed off about. This **** has never happened with guys in their prime over in the past

[NYCelticsfan136]

A few quotes from a so-called Lakers' "insider."

Kawhi is reportedly pleased that he will have a direct line to Jeanie Buss for any and all situations, as well as the freedom to have personal staff members onboard, similar to LeBron James. Lakers officials, I'm told, have expressed to Kawhi and his camp that they will treat him as a franchise cornerstone and will do everything in their power to ensure he has a long, healthy career as a Los Angeles Laker. They emphasized that given the star power on the roster, Kawhi will have no issues taking nights off as needed, under the supervision of Judy Seto.

LeBron independently expressed that as his career winds down, he is comfortable conceding the spotlight to both Kawhi Leonard and Anthony Davis. He mentioned that after his championship in Cleveland, he's satisfied with his time as the undisputed primary option, and now would like to focus on extending his career to hopefully cross paths with his oldest son.

Best Regards,
Mr. Rambis

Lakers high confidence stems from the fact that they felt the primary holdup was centered around Kawhi's distrust of the front office and the rumored lack of professionalism in organizational operations and structure. At this point, their belief is those concerns, for the most part, have been quelled.

-Mr. Rambis

Their belief is that regardless of any further communication and meetings between the Lakers and Kawhi, Kawhi will allow the Raptors to get the last word in before he makes his decision.

-Mr. Rambis

http://lakersball.com/threads/kawhi-laonard-discussion-%E2%80%9Ci%E2%80%99m-a-fun-guy-%E2%80%9D.3078/page-321

That’s bull with Lebron James. I am not buying it. You still have egos.

[GoCeltics123]

Read on Twitter

A few days before the Celtics hit Las Vegas, it’s fair to say Vegas isn’t big on the Celtics.

Not right now anyway, which is the critical point we’ll be examining a few paragraphs down the page.

While Kemba Walker replacing Kyrie Irving might be seen as a gain for the Nets, it could well be a net gain for the Bostonians. But with Al Horford heading to division rival Philadelphia, the odds — understandably still in flux as free agency plays out further — paint a rather drab green picture. Having placed the Celtics last fall at a low of 8-1 to win the 2019 championship, the wise people with the sharpened pencils and crystal balls at Westgate SuperBook now put them at 25-1 to be the last team standing next June.

And even that seems optimistic to some. One athletic accountant of our acquaintance believes the C’s are only rated that highly because of what could happen between now and then and because they’ll still draw some interest at that price.

“(Vegas has the Celtics) at 10th overall, tied with Brooklyn, and Brooklyn doesn’t figure to be able to win anything until (Kevin) Durant gets back,” the source said.

So there you are. Even with the Nets in the “we don’t think they have a chance” category. And, as our guy from the increasingly legal profession notes, the Celtics always do well on the futures market with people from New England and other Shamrock fans visiting Vegas and throwing down tourist money. The Nets are rated there because some looser bettors are simply excited for the Irving-Durant acquisitions and are not properly concerned about the latter’s Achilles injury that could keep him out for 2019-20.

As for the Celtics, it’s still too early to tell how badly they’ve been injured by the loss of Horford to the 76ers, who are third at 10-1 behind the Lakers and Milwaukee. And that’s the point.

The Celtic roster you see today will not be all that you see in the middle of October. The club is not done making moves, and according to teams around the league that we spoke to Monday, the C’s are very active in trying to see what free agents may still shake loose and what kinds of sign-and-trade deals could free up a better chunk of money to attract a large person.

Because of this latter point, the timing of the moves we already know about will have to be sequenced properly to get the maximum benefit — sort of like the crew of Apollo 13 had to work things to have enough power for re-entry.

And if the Celts don’t get this right, you could be looking at a 2019-20 spent in the NBA’s purgatory, which can be hell. Not good enough to compete for a championship; not bad enough to draft high in the lottery and power out of their mediocre orbit.

Getting Kemba Walker was a nice step. He had free agent choices, and selecting the Celtics was validation of the franchise as a destination.

The same can be said of Enes Kanter, who, while not at a level that would attract max-type money, had drawn interest from, among others, the Lakers and Golden State, according to league sources.

Had the Celts been able to find a way to get Walker and keep Horford — which simply wasn’t going to happen — they’d likely have gone into next season with a better outlook than that with which they finished their underachieving 2018-19. Fit and harmony alone would have put them in a stronger position. The expected development of Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown and a healthier Gordon Hayward could have pushed things even further.

Now there is a major question about how the Celtics will be able to defend inside, and it’s an issue the club is no doubt working on as you read. The addition of Kanter for two years at $10 million total is better than it looks. People not entirely familiar with his game will be happy with what he contributes. But there is still a serious need for size.

If you’re a local fan looking for a positive, there is the fact the NBA has not scheduled any regular-season games for the next several weeks. (We checked.)

By the time things count, the odds are strong the Celtics will be different. Whether the changes are good enough to alter the Vegas view is still to be determined.

[Brisbane_Celtic]

I saw rumours that we signed Kanter. Anyone confirm?

Yes he’s a Celtic.

Was hoping it wasn't true. Stoked we got Kemba but disappointed we missed on every other big.

[pac213up]

All this crying about Super Teams. Wtf. The NBA is what it is, nothing new. Move on if you do not like the product.

It ruins the product. Don’t you get that? If the warriors had been healthy you think the raptors win the title? We would be lamenting another warriors championship.

Then stop watching. It is not going to change.

[Gant]

Good to see Bulpett's article above. This team still needs more.

Also nice statement on Kanter in that piece: "The addition of Kanter for two years at $10 million total is better than it looks. People not entirely familiar with his game will be happy with what he contributes. But there is still a serious need for size."

[reload141]

I'd have Bucks, Philly and if Kawhi returns Toronto above us as currently constructed. But that's it.

Oladipo I can't see being the same player as he was, same goes with Durant.

[Triple7]

Lakers gonna hop us with the most titles all because the current group of players in the league are a bunch of bitches who Lebron controls. League is becoming a joke with these Lebron super teams taking place in different cities. Such a clown player trying to chase Jordan’s accomplishments like that.

I'll be waiting on that Karma to bite LA in their asses....gonna happen.

I was hoping for that to happen when KD joined the warriors. They got 2 rings before that happened, ain’t that bad. Kawhi and AD alone would give them dominance for the next 5-6 years.

[NYCelticsfan136]

All this crying about Super Teams. Wtf. The NBA is what it is, nothing new. Move on if you do not like the product.

It ruins the product. Don’t you get that? If the warriors had been healthy you think the raptors win the title? We would be lamenting another warriors championship.

Then stop watching. It is not going to change.

I am watching because i am a basketball fan and i will root for my team but the season is already written in stone. Tell me how you enjoy that? Let me listen to you.

[MagicBagley18]

I'd have Bucks, Philly and if Kawhi returns Toronto above us as currently constructed. But that's it.

Oladipo I can't see being the same player as he was, same goes with Durant.

And we will not have the expectations on us that we did and I think that will let the young guys play free and with kemba and kanter are good lockerroom guys. Not to mention brad thrives when celts are in underdog role

[ZeroTolerance]

I don't think there's cap space to sign Mook, even if it is for a sign and trade.

Celtics were trying to work sign and trades with Kyrie and Big Al don’t see why Mook would be any different.

Celtics have not renounced Kyrie, Horford or Mook yet. Celtics haven’t signed Kemba yet

If the **** we came up with in the other thread is legal, Mook can either be re-signed by Boston to stay or sign-and-traded to another team (incoming salary will depend on Mook's new salary). It could be separate from the Rozier-Kemba trade.

Am I right saying that this all has to happen by the 6th though?... Someone mentioned on one of the sports channels i was watching last night that that date was some sort of deadline for these kinds of deals?

So the circus goes on till then?

[zoyathedestroya]

I saw rumours that we signed Kanter. Anyone confirm?

Confirmed.

Spoiler:

[Triple7]

It ruins the product. Don’t you get that? If the warriors had been healthy you think the raptors win the title? We would be lamenting another warriors championship.

Then stop watching. It is not going to change.

I am watching because i am a basketball fan and i will root for my team but the season is already written in stone. Tell me how you enjoy that? Let me listen to you.

At least this team looks fun to watch compared to last season. Its not like we are ready to compete anyways. Just hope our young guys develop this season, and if the right opportunity comes, we can always trade guys before the playoffs if we suddenly have a chance.

[zoyathedestroya]

Celtics were trying to work sign and trades with Kyrie and Big Al don’t see why Mook would be any different.

Celtics have not renounced Kyrie, Horford or Mook yet. Celtics haven’t signed Kemba yet

If the **** we came up with in the other thread is legal, Mook can either be re-signed by Boston to stay or sign-and-traded to another team (incoming salary will depend on Mook's new salary). It could be separate from the Rozier-Kemba trade.

Am I right saying that this all has to happen by the 6th though?... Someone mentioned on one of the sports channels i was watching last night that that date was some sort of deadline for these kinds of deals?

It can't happen until the 6th.