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2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1621 » by 165bows » Sat May 17, 2025 3:44 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:Full measurements and drill results from the draft combine : https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine
165bows' guy Sion James shows up very well with the best time in the three quarter sprint among all prospects and a 40 inch vertical.

Actually thought he looked pretty quick changing ends from the video samples out there. Not like lightening quick guard with the ball in his hands kind of quick just seems like he changes end to end well which imo is kind of under rated.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1622 » by Larry_Russell » Sat May 17, 2025 4:02 pm

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fallguy wrote:


The Eli Manning thing is a joke. They don't think it's real.

Per the ep - the C's have been interviewing top-10 guys at the combine. That's not unusual as this spring is the last time they can formally hold talks with them before they get drafted. So teams do reconnaissance for future decisions. But who knows? Maybe they love someone in the top-10. (Tre Johnson was mentioned as a guy they've talked to).

They also say teams only get 13 interview requests at the combine. So to spend two of them on Cooper Flagg and Tre Johnson, that's not nothing. They don't get infinite opportunities to talk to the prospects.

I've been saying that the Mavs situation is an awful situation for Cooper to walk into. That's how I see it, not saying that Fagg's team sees it that way. But if they do, I wouldn't be surprised if some machinations go on between now and 5/28 collegiate withdrawal deadline if Flagg and his team prefer to wind up with another franchise. Not saying he's gonna go back to Duke, but that some machinations are likely to go down behind the scenes because of how much leverage Flagg has.



I would kick and scream but ultimately woild accept flagg for brown

Dallas can have Brown and Jrue.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1623 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Sat May 17, 2025 4:20 pm

People are delusional with these trade scenarios lol
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1624 » by Setshot33 » Sat May 17, 2025 4:32 pm

NYCelticsfan136 wrote:People are delusional with these trade scenarios lol

Some Celtics fans believe that the league office and all teams should bend over backwards to help the Celtics like they do for the Lakers.....and that has never happened.

The Celtics don't get preferential treatment like the Lakers do.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1625 » by Dogen » Sat May 17, 2025 5:22 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:
fallguy wrote:
The Eli Manning thing is a joke. They don't think it's real.

Per the ep - the C's have been interviewing top-10 guys at the combine. That's not unusual as this spring is the last time they can formally hold talks with them before they get drafted. So teams do reconnaissance for future decisions. But who knows? Maybe they love someone in the top-10. (Tre Johnson was mentioned as a guy they've talked to).

They also say teams only get 13 interview requests at the combine. So to spend two of them on Cooper Flagg and Tre Johnson, that's not nothing. They don't get infinite opportunities to talk to the prospects.

I've been saying that the Mavs situation is an awful situation for Cooper to walk into. That's how I see it, not saying that Fagg's team sees it that way. But if they do, I wouldn't be surprised if some machinations go on between now and 5/28 collegiate withdrawal deadline if Flagg and his team prefer to wind up with another franchise. Not saying he's gonna go back to Duke, but that some machinations are likely to go down behind the scenes because of how much leverage Flagg has.



I would kick and scream but ultimately woild accept flagg for brown

Dallas can have Brown and Jrue.


What would they be able to give back in order to take on JB and Jrue, without breking up what they already have? Third team involved?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1626 » by Larry_Russell » Sat May 17, 2025 6:11 pm

Dogen wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:They also say teams only get 13 interview requests at the combine. So to spend two of them on Cooper Flagg and Tre Johnson, that's not nothing. They don't get infinite opportunities to talk to the prospects.

I've been saying that the Mavs situation is an awful situation for Cooper to walk into. That's how I see it, not saying that Fagg's team sees it that way. But if they do, I wouldn't be surprised if some machinations go on between now and 5/28 collegiate withdrawal deadline if Flagg and his team prefer to wind up with another franchise. Not saying he's gonna go back to Duke, but that some machinations are likely to go down behind the scenes because of how much leverage Flagg has.



I would kick and scream but ultimately woild accept flagg for brown

Dallas can have Brown and Jrue.


What would they be able to give back in order to take on JB and Jrue, without breking up what they already have? Third team involved?



I dont think they can take bith those 2 back.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1627 » by Celts17Pride » Sat May 17, 2025 6:25 pm

I think there is a 99.9% chance the Celtics don’t end up with the #28th and #32 pick in the draft. The Celtics will either have more or less picks. Tons of moves to be made before the draft or on draft night
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Post#1628 » by FlatearthZorro » Sat May 17, 2025 7:53 pm

Setshot33 wrote:
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:People are delusional with these trade scenarios lol

Some Celtics fans believe that the league office and all teams should bend over backwards to help the Celtics like they do for the Lakers.....and that has never happened.

The Celtics don't get preferential treatment like the Lakers do.


Agreed, I feel my trade proposals haven't been that delusional.
I had Collins for KP +32(Collins expires and makes ~ 4 mils less than KP, which is actually still good considering our situation).
Then Dallas or another team that is looking to contend for Jrue.
You can dump Hauser in a current MLE(it would save huge money for the C's).
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1629 » by FlatearthZorro » Sat May 17, 2025 8:02 pm

I'll say it here, Flagg will eventually be a Celtic. Whether it's now or in the future.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1631 » by SparringPartner » Sun May 18, 2025 12:57 am

Dogen wrote:What would they be able to give back in order to take on JB and Jrue, without breking up what they already have? Third team involved?


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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1632 » by Dogen » Sun May 18, 2025 3:46 am

SparringPartner wrote:
Dogen wrote:What would they be able to give back in order to take on JB and Jrue, without breking up what they already have? Third team involved?


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:lol: I'm sorry I asked!
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Post#1633 » by 165bows » Sun May 18, 2025 3:47 pm

This has gone paywalled but this mock had Adou Thiero going to Boston at 28.

Also article made the worthwhile point how Boston under Brad Stevens has targeted wings with outlier characteristics consistently in the draft, which double checking has been all of Brad’s picks inside of the 50s.

https://floorandceiling.substack.com/p/nba-draft-mock-cooper-flagg-dallas-mavericks-lottery?utm_source=post-banner&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true

I was pretty intrigued by Thiero’s athleticism but figured his shooting would keep him off the list. But man he can run and dunk which is always fun
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Post#1634 » by redslastlaugh » Sun May 18, 2025 4:02 pm

165bows wrote:This has gone paywalled but this mock had Adou Thiero going to Boston at 28.

I was pretty intrigued by Thiero’s athleticism but figured his shooting would keep him off the list. But man he can run and dunk which is always fun

Thiero could be interesting. The shooting is a big question mark obvs.
Also Theiro signed with Klutch Sports which isn't great. I don't think being a Klutch guy is an absolute open-and-shut "we aren't interested" for the Celtics front office, but it does seems like it's somewhat of a strike-one against a guy.
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Post#1635 » by phincsfan » Sun May 18, 2025 4:09 pm

165bows wrote:This has gone paywalled but this mock had Adou Thiero going to Boston at 28.

Also article made the worthwhile point how Boston under Brad Stevens has targeted wings with outlier characteristics consistently in the draft, which double checking has been all of Brad’s picks inside of the 50s.

https://floorandceiling.substack.com/p/nba-draft-mock-cooper-flagg-dallas-mavericks-lottery?utm_source=post-banner&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true

I was pretty intrigued by Thiero’s athleticism but figured his shooting would keep him off the list. But man he can run and dunk which is always fun


I trust Cal's eye when it comes to pg's and bigs, not so much wings.
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Post#1636 » by playa-hater » Sun May 18, 2025 8:50 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:
165bows wrote:This has gone paywalled but this mock had Adou Thiero going to Boston at 28.

I was pretty intrigued by Thiero’s athleticism but figured his shooting would keep him off the list. But man he can run and dunk which is always fun

Thiero could be interesting. The shooting is a big question mark obvs.
Also Theiro signed with Klutch Sports which isn't great. I don't think being a Klutch guy is an absolute open-and-shut "we aren't interested" for the Celtics front office, but it does seems like it's somewhat of a strike-one against a guy.


I haven't looked at any video. So I have no idea but the description sounds very much like another jordan Walsh.. I for one am tired of shooting projects. I want shooters who have a more proven track record or natural shooting touch versus the maybe etc..
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Post#1637 » by threrf23 » Sun May 18, 2025 9:15 pm

On paper, Thiero reminds me an awful lot of Renaldo Balkman. Statistically they are largely the same except for FT shooting, Thiero appears to be a better FT shooter, but not a better three point shooter.
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Post#1638 » by 165bows » Sun May 18, 2025 11:17 pm

playa-hater wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:
165bows wrote:This has gone paywalled but this mock had Adou Thiero going to Boston at 28.

I was pretty intrigued by Thiero’s athleticism but figured his shooting would keep him off the list. But man he can run and dunk which is always fun

Thiero could be interesting. The shooting is a big question mark obvs.
Also Theiro signed with Klutch Sports which isn't great. I don't think being a Klutch guy is an absolute open-and-shut "we aren't interested" for the Celtics front office, but it does seems like it's somewhat of a strike-one against a guy.


I haven't looked at any video. So I have no idea but the description sounds very much like another jordan Walsh.. I for one am tired of shooting projects. I want shooters who have a more proven track record or natural shooting touch versus the maybe etc..

Yeah the shooting prob keeps him out of the mix though there is a possible tiny bit more window now to check a guy out next year.

Hes a little different mood than a Walsh, much more a break you down off the dribble and dunk than Walsh. Not skinny explosive like Walsh or thick bull like Randle, more mountain lion or puma kind of body. Maybe a Terrance Jones might be the best one I can think of though Balkman I haven’t thought of in awhile lol
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Post#1639 » by winsomme2 » Mon May 19, 2025 12:42 pm

Anybody interested in RJ Luis?

He has a lot of skill, can score at three levels, good on offense and defense. He tested well at the combine. He has good size and length for a wing and showed above average athletic ability.

I know he fell flat in that last tournament game but he looks like he could do really well in the pros to me.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#1640 » by Patsfan1081 » Mon May 19, 2025 7:55 pm

#28 prob gets used to move Jrue. #32 I would guess gets traded back once for a extra second then a flyer on someone.

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