2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

[Larry_Russell]

If you wanna be depressed, read the T&T thread on his trade value:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2466746

they are 100% correct over there.

SImons is terrible.

And the trade by brad to get him was shortsighted and moronic.

[Hal14]

On Simons. Explain, How the team
Is going to resign him next year, get the correct amount of big men, and stay under the seocond apron?

Simons or Hauser/Niang has to go.

I'd move Hauser.

Also, having the correct amount of big men doesn't matter that much in a bridge year..just need to have enough center depth by the time the 2027 playoffs roll around..

[bfchs123]

Has Brad made any comments on Simons since the trade? Feel like I haven't seen anything about what he likes about him, etc. which leads me to believe he is probably more likely trade fodder

[djFan71]

If you wanna be depressed, read the T&T thread on his trade value:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2466746

they are 100% correct over there.

SImons is terrible.

And the trade by brad to get him was shortsighted and moronic.

They are about 72% correct over there, at best, on average.
He's terrible on D. Pretty good with limited spurts of great on O.
There weren't that many other options out there. Most people think Brad pulled one over on POR just by getting 2nds and an expiring back.

[Curmudgeon]

So give up a couple of second rounders to move Simons. The Celtics have more second rounders than they can use anyway.

[djFan71]

Has Brad made any comments on Simons since the trade? Feel like I haven't seen anything about what he likes about him, etc. which leads me to believe he is probably more likely trade fodder

He definitely hasn't given the "We really like Simons and seeing him as a great piece for us going forward" type statement.

EDIT: lol, fixed major typo. He definitely has NOT given. I originally had it as "HAS given".

[Larry_Russell]

If you wanna be depressed, read the T&T thread on his trade value:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2466746

they are 100% correct over there.

SImons is terrible.

And the trade by brad to get him was shortsighted and moronic.

They are about 72% correct over there, at best, on average.
He's terrible on D. Pretty good with limited spurts of great on O.
There weren't that many other options out there. Most people think Brad pulled one over on POR just by getting 2nds and an expiring back.

THose are the 28%

If this was the cost of "gaining" a second rounder that will eventually be used to trade down deeper into the second round then it would have been far better to attach a second to get a piece back that is at least playable and of need.

[jfs1000d]

If you wanna be depressed, read the T&T thread on his trade value:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2466746

they are 100% correct over there.

SImons is terrible.

And the trade by brad to get him was shortsighted and moronic.

It was brilliant trade. We got out from under holiday without having to give up an asset. U seem very focused on thinking of trades with no regard to roster managemet.


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[Memokerobi]

Some potentially intriguing young, bottom of the barrel FA types that I wouldn’t mind us trying to see if theres anything to develop:

Trendon Watford - F - 6’9 - 25
Career 35% 3pt shooter which isnt terrible including two seasons at 39% on limited playing time. Decent rebounder and gets to the line with a 35% free throw attempt rate. Could be a Brissett type pick up whos not as tenacious rebounder but a better shooter. Don’t know much about his defense

Jabari Walker - F - 6’9 - 23
Really good rebounder, gets to the line often and solid defender. 3pt shot is suspect even though he shot 39% on 1.2 3PA last year. But out of everyone on this list he’s the only one who actually caught my attention while watching games on league pass.
I like him

Jake LaRavia - F - 6’8 - 24
Career 37% 3pt shooter including 42% last year. Doesnt really do anything else well but big floor spacers are a hot commodity so might need to pay him TMLE or something

Josh Minnott - F - 6’8 - 23
Played very little basketball in the NBA but his defensive numbers look really good so that intrigued me.

Sandro Mamu - C - 6-11 - 26
Floor spacing big shooting at a decent clip but overall a good offensive big. Highers ast % than turnover %. Not good on defense

Paul Reed - C - 6’9 -26
Kinda like the opposite of Mamu, hustle, energy, defense guy. Tanked his value with the year he had but could be worth a flier

Tre Mann - G - 6’3 - 24
Surprised the Hornets let him go but he is a scoring guard so could be a cheaper option if we end up trading Simons. Can create his own shot and 40% from 3pt on over 4 attempts per game. I like his game, but similar to PP.

Bryce Mcgowens - G - 6’7 - 23
This guy always played well against us when he was with Charlotte so just a vibes add to the list. Idk what he did after he left Charlotte but seems like nothing

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

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Goodbye Jaylen...

[fallguy]

Has Brad made any comments on Simons since the trade? Feel like I haven't seen anything about what he likes about him, etc. which leads me to believe he is probably more likely trade fodder

Brad can't talk about him. Trade not official. But they told Himmelsbach they like him but might move him.

[Memokerobi]

If you wanna be depressed, read the T&T thread on his trade value:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2466746

they are 100% correct over there.

SImons is terrible.

And the trade by brad to get him was shortsighted and moronic.

We got off a 100M+ contract and got a cheaper expiring and picks to top it off. Relax

[fallguy]

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Goodbye Jaylen...

He's talking about contract sizes.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Has Brad made any comments on Simons since the trade? Feel like I haven't seen anything about what he likes about him, etc. which leads me to believe he is probably more likely trade fodder

Trade's not official yet. Talking about Simmons at this point would be tampering. The Celtics are already giving away good players. If they start giving away draft picks as penalty for tampering there isn't going to be much left.

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Has Brad made any comments on Simons since the trade? Feel like I haven't seen anything about what he likes about him, etc. which leads me to believe he is probably more likely trade fodder

He definitely hasn't given the "We really like Simons and seeing him as a great piece for us going forward" type statement.

EDIT: lol, fixed major typo. He definitely has NOT given. I originally had it as "HAS given".

On draft night, he named Pritchard, Tatum, Brown, and White as the core players. To me, that means everyone else on the roster is expendable.

[Hal14]

Keep him in Boston

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Imagine teams trying to stop the Jays and Simons.

Imagine how good Simons will be with the spacing (and far less defensive attention) he'd have in Boston..

Dude is going to get cooked defensively.

In recent years people said the same thing about some very good players:

Kyrie, Dame, Harden, Herro, Poole, CJ, Donovan Mitchell, Luka, Trae, Ja, Haliburton, Brunson, Jamal Murray, Bradley Beal, John Wall, Lamelo, Garland, etc.

Most guards who are capable of going off aren't great defenders. It is what it is..

Not saying Simons is as good as all of those guys. But the ones who are better than him, they make a lot more $ than him. And they have a bigger role on their team than Simons would have here (a suspect defender like Trae/Hali/Brunson playing 36 MPG hurts your team more than a suspect defender like Simons playing 30 MPG)

Also, Simons has never really played on a *real* NBA team with real coaching, a real system that is designed to generate good enough and a real defensive system.

We also have good enough defenders around him that we'd be able to cover up any limitations he has on D.

[Larry_Russell]

If you wanna be depressed, read the T&T thread on his trade value:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2466746

they are 100% correct over there.

SImons is terrible.

And the trade by brad to get him was shortsighted and moronic.

It was brilliant trade. We got out from under holiday without having to give up an asset. U seem very focused on thinking of trades with no regard to roster managemet.


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yup, unlike brad who thought adding an undersized guard with no real skill set was more important than a center, or a power forward.

[ajones9219]

Keep him in Boston

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Imagine teams trying to stop the Jays and Simons.

Imagine how good Simons will be with the spacing (and far less defensive attention) he'd have in Boston..

Paint a picture of how they keep him. Including his next contract. And what it means for the rest of the roster.

But somehow he ended up with a .557 TS% on the year (compared to PP's .633).

He'll end up getting around what he gets now and the cap explodes by 10% every year for the next several years. The cap stuff is overblown. Tatum/Brown's contract will be great value by the end assuming health.

[ajones9219]

Keep him in Boston

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Imagine teams trying to stop the Jays and Simons.

Imagine how good Simons will be with the spacing (and far less defensive attention) he'd have in Boston..

Dude is going to get cooked defensively.

In recent years people said the same thing about some very good players:

Kyrie, Dame, Harden, Herro, Poole, CJ, Donovan Mitchell, Luka, Trae, Ja, Haliburton, Brunson, Jamal Murray, Bradley Beal, John Wall, etc.

Not saying Simons is as good as all of those guys. But the ones who are better than him, they make a lot more $ than him. And they have a bigger role on their team than Simons would have here (a suspect defender like Trae/Hali/Brunson playing 36 MPG hurts your team more than a suspect defender like Simons playing 30 MPG)

Also, Simons has never really played on a *real* NBA team with real coaching, a real system that is designed to generate good enough and a real defensive system.

This. He was asked to carry the offense for a bad team for basically his whole career. Put him on a real team with a real system and he has the tools to be a serviceable defender.

[fallguy]

Keep him in Boston

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Imagine teams trying to stop the Jays and Simons.

Imagine how good Simons will be with the spacing (and far less defensive attention) he'd have in Boston..

Dude is going to get cooked defensively.

In recent years people said the same thing about some very good players:

Kyrie, Dame, Harden, Herro, Poole, CJ, Donovan Mitchell, Luka, Trae, Ja, Haliburton, Brunson, Jamal Murray, Bradley Beal, John Wall, etc.

Not saying Simons is as good as all of those guys. But the ones who are better than him, they make a lot more $ than him. And they have a bigger role on their team than Simons would have here (a suspect defender like Trae/Hali/Brunson playing 36 MPG hurts your team more than a suspect defender like Simons playing 30 MPG)

Also, Simons has never really played on a *real* NBA team with real coaching, a real system that is designed to generate good enough and a real defensive system.

How much are you willing to pay him?