Trade Ideas Thread

[underneathtoDJ]

A Game Plan for NBA Contention, 2018 and beyond

FIRST TRADE: Jameer Nelson and the 2016 Cleveland and Dallas/Memphis second rounders we possess to Cleveland for Brandon Hayward.
I like it. Danny can get creative with that contract

SECOND TRADE: Brandon Bass, returning the Wizards 2015 pick to them, and the C’s Miami 2016 second round pick to the Wizards for Martell Webster, a minimum salary guy to make the deal work who is immediately released, and Washington’s 2018 no. 1 pick, top 10 protected until 2021, when it is top 3 protected. If the Cs do not get it by 2021, they get the Wizards 2021 second round pick.
I'm not a big fan of this one. Webster's injury history scares me too much and he's already talking about retiring at the end of the contract. I'd look to send Bass elsewhere (maybe Bass to ATL for Brand/A.Payne?)

THIRD TRADE: Jeff Green to Memphis for Tayshaun Prince, Vince Carter and a no. 1 pick two years after Memphis has conveyed its no. 1 to Denver, meaning it will probably be in 2019. I would let the pick have top 7 protection in 2019 and 2010 and be unprotected in 2021.
Take Carter out of the deal and I think both teams go for this one.

FOURTH TRADE: Brandan Wright and the Cs Philadelphia’s 2016 no. 1 pick to Portland for Thomas Robinson’s expiring deal and Portland’s 2018 no. 1 pick, top 10 protected until 2021, when it is unprotected.
I'm good with this deal too

FIFTH TRADE: Marcus Thornton and Evan Turner to New Orleans for Eric Gordon and New Orleans 2017 no. 1 pick.
Ughh. I hate Eric Gordon, but I suppose him being a $15M expiring contract could look attractive to Ainge, as well as getting another pick. C's aren't giving up much, so I'd be fine taking a chance on this deal.

Not a bad plan, overall.

[24istheLAW]

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We don't have the roster spot but I like Wolters a lot, the exact kind of heady defensively challenged facilitator who'd pair so well with Marcus Smart.

Is Wolters really defensively challenged? I don't really know his game but I recall from past conversations on here that he has good size and athleticism but a broken jumper that keeps him off the court.

I always thought his shot and PG game were top notch but he struggled athletically keeping PGs in front of him.

Checking out the video DraftExpress made for him, that seems to be the gist of it. Sluggish laterally according to them and lacking in wingspan (6'3.5" to 6'5" height).

STRENGTHS:
-Size for position
-Scoring instincts
-Perimeter Shooting
-Point guard skills

WEAKNESSES:
-Physical tools
-Defending NBA guards
-Creating at NBA level

Which makes his NBA track record a bit of a mystery:
.424 from 10-16
.364 from 16-arc
.269 from 3-pt range

Did his perimeter shooting regress that badly or did DX just not do their homework?

[theman]

You don't build a team around players other teams have cut.

[Andrew McCeltic]

You don't build a team around Kenyon Martin, either.. Hasn't he been out of the league for a few years? The Kidd-New Jersey connection is interesting..

[Andrew McCeltic]

Tankers note: Kenyon Martin is a former number one pick.

[theman]

I have been trying to place value on the Celtics "assets"

I think the trade exemption from the Rondo trade might be the best chance at another draft pick. Take on a bad contract for a first round pick.

I looks to me like Dion Waters (who Cleveland wanted to be rid of) has more value than Avery Bradley as I think Danny would have made that deal.

Brandon Wright is a nice shot blocker but so is John Hanson and he is a lot cheaper and younger. But perhaps Bucks want to hold onto Hanson.

It surprises me that Mozgov was worth two first and Rondo only one.

Memphis interested in Green. Danny get it done.

Out side of Young and Smart, everyone else I would think is available including Sullinger and Olynik. Unless Smart proves he can not play point I think he is the future at that position and Young should be a building block as well.

Hopefully, there is another team like New Orleans, two summers ago, that want to go for broke and offer something up for our two young big men.

I thought Bass as worth a first but Houston picked up Josh Smith for nothing. Danny should try to trade him to a team in the west not located in L.A. or Dallas.

Nelson could probably fetch a second or a young player from a playoff team.

[theman]

Tankers note: Kenyon Martin is a former number one pick.

He was also rookie of the year, but is now old.

You don't build a team around Kenyon Martin, either.. Hasn't he been out of the league for a few years? The Kidd-New Jersey connection is interesting..

That move makes zero, ZERO sense to me.

The only explanation is that it is the Bucks.

[Froob]

Tankers note: Kenyon Martin is a former number one pick.

He was also rookie of the year, but is now old.

You don't build a team around Kenyon Martin, either.. Hasn't he been out of the league for a few years? The Kidd-New Jersey connection is interesting..

That move makes zero, ZERO sense to me.

The only explanation is that it is the Bucks.

If he can still play, he's one mean mother****er. Maybe trying to add some attitude to the bucks. Always wanted to see K-Mart in green, celtics green that is.

[theman]

How about Jameer Nelson to the Pacers for part of the Danny Granger trade exemption and a protected second round pick?

[Ed Pinkney]

Don't even need the protected second rounder, if someone is willing to take Nelson without sending anything back to the Celtics, Ainge needs to say yes before the corresponding GM has even finished saying "hello".

[SMTBSI]

How about Jameer Nelson to the Pacers for part of the Danny Granger trade exemption and a protected second round pick?

Don't even need the protected second rounder, if someone is willing to take Nelson without sending anything back to the Celtics, Ainge needs to say yes before the corresponding GM has even finished saying "hello".

Agreed. Trimming his ~2.75mil this year and next, opening a roster spot, and generating a little TPE is more than enough reward.

[JohnB]

As bad as it sounds, right now Danny and co are waiting to see who gets hurt. Some playoff team will lose their 3 or back up 1 or 2 or 3 or 4.

[tester551]

Portland fan here coming in peace. There are a lot of Blazer fans who are wanting to get Green from you. As such I have caught a few of the recent C games to see how well I think he would fit. Honestly, the guy who caught my eye was Turner. I think he would be a great fit for what we really need (a secondary ball handler who can let Lillard play the 2 on O, but can guard the opposing 2).

What would it take to get him? We have lots of expiring contracts that we can trade. Maybe CJ McCullum & Victor Claver?

[GreenMachine]

Portland fan here coming in peace. There are a lot of Blazer fans who are wanting to get Green from you. As such I have caught a few of the recent C games to see how well I think he would fit. Honestly, the guy who caught my eye was Turner. I think he would be a great fit for what we really need (a secondary ball handler who can let Lillard play the 2 on O, but can guard the opposing 2).

What would it take to get him? We have lots of expiring contracts that we can trade. Maybe CJ McCullum & Victor Claver?

He's not one of the guys we are in a huge rush to trade... but he's also not considered part of our future. That being that case, we want the same thing we want for basically everyone over 24 on our roster: Expirings and a 1st round pick.

Some here might be interested in your young guys... But I'm not one of them. Doesn't CJ fit the description of what you say you are looking for?

[Drax]

Portland fan here coming in peace. There are a lot of Blazer fans who are wanting to get Green from you. As such I have caught a few of the recent C games to see how well I think he would fit. Honestly, the guy who caught my eye was Turner. I think he would be a great fit for what we really need (a secondary ball handler who can let Lillard play the 2 on O, but can guard the opposing 2).

What would it take to get him? We have lots of expiring contracts that we can trade. Maybe CJ McCullum & Victor Claver?

Personally i'd do Turner for McCollum straight up. Should work moneywise and the value is fine.

[FlatearthZorro]

Portland fan here coming in peace. There are a lot of Blazer fans who are wanting to get Green from you. As such I have caught a few of the recent C games to see how well I think he would fit. Honestly, the guy who caught my eye was Turner. I think he would be a great fit for what we really need (a secondary ball handler who can let Lillard play the 2 on O, but can guard the opposing 2).

What would it take to get him? We have lots of expiring contracts that we can trade. Maybe CJ McCullum & Victor Claver?

Green hasn't had any hustle to play in him, since we traded Rondo, so the stats aren't very telling.


He's been having the season of his career - the past couple of weeks.


But I do understand u wanting Turner, just to be clear, he's very flawed as well, but he's really cheap and has been the opposite of Green, he's played very well since the Rondo trade.

[165bows]

Tankers note: Kenyon Martin is a former number one pick.

He was also rookie of the year, but is now old.

You don't build a team around Kenyon Martin, either.. Hasn't he been out of the league for a few years? The Kidd-New Jersey connection is interesting..

That move makes zero, ZERO sense to me.

The only explanation is that it is the Bucks.

I'd posted somewhere on here they really need front court help. Ilyasova is out with a concussion (and hadn't played much beforehand), Parker is out for the year, and who know what is up with Sanders. So they are really thin up front and have been playing their 2nd rounder rotation minutes at PF and he's not been playing well. Kidd calling up Kenyon Martin was only a matter of time.

Maybe if Martin is washed up, they can make a deal with some of Boston's PF depth.

[165bows]

Portland fan here coming in peace. There are a lot of Blazer fans who are wanting to get Green from you. As such I have caught a few of the recent C games to see how well I think he would fit. Honestly, the guy who caught my eye was Turner. I think he would be a great fit for what we really need (a secondary ball handler who can let Lillard play the 2 on O, but can guard the opposing 2).

What would it take to get him? We have lots of expiring contracts that we can trade. Maybe CJ McCullum & Victor Claver?

Which of the expiring group of Freeland/Claver/Robinson/Wright group are considered expendable?

And Green has been an eyesore lately, but he's capable in bigger moments. Some of his best stretches were in 2013 leading up to and in the playoff series. He generally showed up to play against Miami in the RS matchups against LeBron as well. Hasn't shown anything since Rondo was traded really, though.

[laploutocratie]

Portland fan here coming in peace. There are a lot of Blazer fans who are wanting to get Green from you. As such I have caught a few of the recent C games to see how well I think he would fit. Honestly, the guy who caught my eye was Turner. I think he would be a great fit for what we really need (a secondary ball handler who can let Lillard play the 2 on O, but can guard the opposing 2).

What would it take to get him? We have lots of expiring contracts that we can trade. Maybe CJ McCullum & Victor Claver?

Which of the expiring group of Freeland/Claver/Robinson/Wright group are considered expendable?

And Green has been an eyesore lately, but he's capable in bigger moments. Some of his best stretches were in 2013 leading up to and in the playoff series. He generally showed up to play against Miami in the RS matchups against LeBron as well. Hasn't shown anything since Rondo was traded really, though.

Is Meyers Leonard a worthwhile project to invest in? It seems like he never gets burn there.

[KJandHondo35]

Portland fan here coming in peace. There are a lot of Blazer fans who are wanting to get Green from you. As such I have caught a few of the recent C games to see how well I think he would fit. Honestly, the guy who caught my eye was Turner. I think he would be a great fit for what we really need (a secondary ball handler who can let Lillard play the 2 on O, but can guard the opposing 2).

What would it take to get him? We have lots of expiring contracts that we can trade. Maybe CJ McCullum & Victor Claver?

I'd do it for TRob in a heartbeat...

edit:

I just feel like TRob has never been on the right team and he could be so much better if given the opportunity. He plays ridiculous defense, is super long and Athletic (6'9", 7'3.25" wing, 8'10" reach) he has the best rebounding % on the best rebounding team, great drtg but he only plays 11 minutes a game because Aldridge refuses to log minutes at the 5 (even tho starters minus Lopez plus TRob is one of their better lineups statistically). Lamarcus is a stud so he gets what he wants even tho it works out well, TRob is just on the wrong team. The Celtics have too many PFs but they don't have any that play like TRob (above the rim, protect the rim, smash the rim), remember how good they looked momentarily when Bass was that mobile big with Smart Young and Crowder, well TRob is that x1,000,000.

Such a good story too, went through a lot growing up, just wish a team would give him an actual chance.