Around the NBA (3.0), 2018-19 (Non-Celtics Talk)

ConstableGeneva · Post #1641 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:10 am

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"Are the Golden State Warriors vulnerable?": my RealGM thread...

Roddy · Post #1642 » by **Roddy** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:10 am

Is it accurate ?

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3D Chess · Post #1643 » by **3D Chess** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:57 pm

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3D Chess · Post #1644 » by **3D Chess** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:01 pm

Roddy wrote:Is it accurate ?

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Looks to me like "I am so fckin tired of Draymond's shooting"

He went 3-9 and 0-3 from 3. He is shooting something like 25% from 3 in 2019.

FlatearthZorro · Post #1645 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:50 pm

3D Chess wrote:
Roddy wrote:Is it accurate ?

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Looks to me like "I am so fckin tired of Draymond's shooting"

He went 3-9 and 0-3 from 3. He is shooting something like 25% from 3 in 2019.

I think he said Draymond's ****. I think the guy's kinda full of himself, Green is and he's talking all the time while his game can't cash them checks. I can see Green being irrelevant in 2 years tops. He's kinda irrelevant now, but he will be completely irrelevant in 2 years. His offensive game has always been subpar, his passing is decent, but passing to Klay/Steph and then you they added Durant, it's way easier to get assists.

3D Chess · Post #1646 » by **3D Chess** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:07 pm

Some real spice here;

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The Lakers face numerous organizational challenges. If you take owner Jeanie Buss' word for it, there is none greater this season than the media.

"The biggest challenge for [us is] the 'fake news' about how we were supposedly trading our entire roster for a certain player, which is completely not true," Buss said at a panel last weekend at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics conference.

The statement is remarkable when you examine the recent failures of the franchise. It's particularly astounding when you enumerate the material advantages it enjoys. The team plays in the most appealing market in the league; their local broadcast deal pays them in excess of $150 million per season; they employ LeBron James; and they have picked second overall in three of the past four drafts.

And even when the Lakers are miserable, the team still carries a golden mystique: national television dates; A-list celebrities in attendance; the steadfast condition of just being The Lakers.

Can you imagine the state of confusion an owner must live in if she looks at her team that is 156-320 over its past six seasons, one blessed with all of those assets, and concludes that the leading cause for concern is the information swirling on the outside? Despite its falsehood, the statement actually reveals much about one of the Lakers' true shortcomings. They're so devoid of self-reflection that they can't see something that's abundantly obvious to anyone paying attention:

The Lakers are so infatuated with the glory of their brand that they forget about the essence of their product.

3D Chess · Post #1647 » by **3D Chess** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:53 pm

Some more for good measure.

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CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #1648 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:28 pm

3D Chess wrote:
Roddy wrote:Is it accurate ?

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Looks to me like "I am so fckin tired of Draymond's shooting"

He went 3-9 and 0-3 from 3. He is shooting something like 25% from 3 in 2019.

If there was any path for the Warriors to keep KD, the first step towards that path would be getting rid of Mr. 2-Tone (y'all know what I'm talking about). His words for KD were quite harsh, and I don't care how often they say they're fine - the damage dealt by Draymond back in November is irreparable.

Would be quite funny if the Warriors dealt Draymond to the Lakers since he's now a Klutch sports client. Imagine the fights that he and Lebron could get into. :lol:

3D Chess · Post #1649 » by **3D Chess** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:31 am

So... The Cavs stomped the Raps by 25. With kawhi playing. Is my app broken?

Oh **** there was a fight!

Roddy · Post #1650 » by **Roddy** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:04 am

James Harden since All star break (9 games).

3pts : 29/117 > 24,7%
2pts : 95/235 > 40,4%

38 turnovers > 4,2/game

grindtime22 · Post #1651 » by **grindtime22** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:55 am

Roddy wrote:James Harden since All star break (9 games).

3pts : 29/117 > 24,7%
2pts : 95/235 > 40,4%

38 turnovers > 4,2/game

I see 29/111 from 3 -- 26.13% still pretty bad

The 95/235 is his FG%.......... his 2pt% is 66/124 ... 53.23%

Despite his poor 3 pt shooting, he still gets to the line, which always brings his real scoring efficiency up.

Over those 9 games he is avg 33.56 pts a game on 55.08 TS%. That isn't elite efficiency like he usually displays, but it is about average.

Roddy · Post #1652 » by **Roddy** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:38 am

grindtime22 wrote:
Roddy wrote:James Harden since All star break (9 games).

3pts : 29/117 > 24,7%
2pts : 95/235 > 40,4%

38 turnovers > 4,2/game

I see 29/111 from 3 -- 26.13% still pretty bad

The 95/235 is his FG%.......... his 2pt% is 66/124 ... 53.23%

Despite his poor 3 pt shooting, he still gets to the line, which always brings his real scoring efficiency up.

Over those 9 games he is avg 33.56 pts a game on 55.08 TS%. That isn't elite efficiency like he usually displays, but it is about average.

Wow I'm bad at math :lol:

I don't care about the ppg. A lot of players are able to avg 33ppg while shooting 12 threes per game and 26 shots per game.

KGtabake · Post #1653 » by **KGtabake** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:23 pm

Ibaka has managed to give a punch in the face after so many years of punching the air. Impressive.

KGtabake · Post #1654 » by **KGtabake** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:29 pm

Roddy wrote:

What pisses me off is that at summer i believed that Kyrie had a real shot on the MVP.
Nothing went well though. Team didn't justify the buzz and Kyrie's off court performance made it worse.
I hope he'll understand that he hurts himself and his chances for personal accolades and he will be more mature going forward.

La Flame · Post #1655 » by **La Flame** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:36 pm

Green89 · Post #1656 » by **Green89** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:37 pm

3D Chess wrote:Some real spice here;

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The Lakers face numerous organizational challenges. If you take owner Jeanie Buss' word for it, there is none greater this season than the media.

"The biggest challenge for [us is] the 'fake news' about how we were supposedly trading our entire roster for a certain player, which is completely not true," Buss said at a panel last weekend at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics conference.

The statement is remarkable when you examine the recent failures of the franchise. It's particularly astounding when you enumerate the material advantages it enjoys. The team plays in the most appealing market in the league; their local broadcast deal pays them in excess of $150 million per season; they employ LeBron James; and they have picked second overall in three of the past four drafts.

And even when the Lakers are miserable, the team still carries a golden mystique: national television dates; A-list celebrities in attendance; the steadfast condition of just being The Lakers.

Can you imagine the state of confusion an owner must live in if she looks at her team that is 156-320 over its past six seasons, one blessed with all of those assets, and concludes that the leading cause for concern is the information swirling on the outside? Despite its falsehood, the statement actually reveals much about one of the Lakers' true shortcomings. They're so devoid of self-reflection that they can't see something that's abundantly obvious to anyone paying attention:

The Lakers are so infatuated with the glory of their brand that they forget about the essence of their product.

The NBA needs to stop riding their brand, too. They never should have gotten the most TV appearances this year. What a joke.

MagicBagley18 · Post #1657 » by **MagicBagley18** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:59 pm

Green89 wrote:
3D Chess wrote:Some real spice here;

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The Lakers face numerous organizational challenges. If you take owner Jeanie Buss' word for it, there is none greater this season than the media.

"The biggest challenge for [us is] the 'fake news' about how we were supposedly trading our entire roster for a certain player, which is completely not true," Buss said at a panel last weekend at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics conference.

The statement is remarkable when you examine the recent failures of the franchise. It's particularly astounding when you enumerate the material advantages it enjoys. The team plays in the most appealing market in the league; their local broadcast deal pays them in excess of $150 million per season; they employ LeBron James; and they have picked second overall in three of the past four drafts.

And even when the Lakers are miserable, the team still carries a golden mystique: national television dates; A-list celebrities in attendance; the steadfast condition of just being The Lakers.

Can you imagine the state of confusion an owner must live in if she looks at her team that is 156-320 over its past six seasons, one blessed with all of those assets, and concludes that the leading cause for concern is the information swirling on the outside? Despite its falsehood, the statement actually reveals much about one of the Lakers' true shortcomings. They're so devoid of self-reflection that they can't see something that's abundantly obvious to anyone paying attention:

The Lakers are so infatuated with the glory of their brand that they forget about the essence of their product.

The NBA needs to stop riding their brand, too. They never should have gotten the most TV appearances this year. What a joke.

It’s a huge media market with a huge fan base and one the most polarizing superstars in the history of the league they always will get games it’s just business 101. I hate the lakers and I hope they lose every game but that’s how it is and will be until the end of time

KevinGamble34 · Post #1658 » by **KevinGamble34** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:52 pm

La Flame wrote:

Smart only plays just over 27 mins a game so quite impressive. Nice stat for the rookie Bridges as well.

grindtime22 · Post #1659 » by **grindtime22** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:38 pm

Roddy wrote:
grindtime22 wrote:
Roddy wrote:James Harden since All star break (9 games).

3pts : 29/117 > 24,7%
2pts : 95/235 > 40,4%

38 turnovers > 4,2/game

I see 29/111 from 3 -- 26.13% still pretty bad

The 95/235 is his FG%.......... his 2pt% is 66/124 ... 53.23%

Despite his poor 3 pt shooting, he still gets to the line, which always brings his real scoring efficiency up.

Over those 9 games he is avg 33.56 pts a game on 55.08 TS%. That isn't elite efficiency like he usually displays, but it is about average.

Wow I'm bad at math

I don't care about the ppg. A lot of players are able to avg 33ppg while shooting 12 threes per game and 26 shots per game.

In a way I agree about ppg. It requires context. There are not a lot of players that can score 36 a game on 61.1 TS%. If there was, others would be doing it, because that is great offense. The Rockets have the 2nd best offense in the NBA, despite a bunch of injuries and Eric Gordon shooting very poorly for the season. Harden is clearly the reason for that.

The fact that he can shoot 29/111 from 3 over 9 games and still score at an average efficiency(55.08 TS%) shows how good he is. The NBA average this year is 55.9 TS%.

I don't like the guy. He is my least favorite player in the NBA. I hate watching him try to game the system on every possession. With that said, his scoring volume on elite efficiency is ridiculous and absolutely worthy of being top 3 in MVP for the regular season.

Roddy · Post #1660 » by **Roddy** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:23 pm

grindtime22 wrote:
Roddy wrote:
grindtime22 wrote:
I see 29/111 from 3 -- 26.13% still pretty bad

The 95/235 is his FG%.......... his 2pt% is 66/124 ... 53.23%

Despite his poor 3 pt shooting, he still gets to the line, which always brings his real scoring efficiency up.

Over those 9 games he is avg 33.56 pts a game on 55.08 TS%. That isn't elite efficiency like he usually displays, but it is about average.

Wow I'm bad at math

I don't care about the ppg. A lot of players are able to avg 33ppg while shooting 12 threes per game and 26 shots per game.

In a way I agree about ppg. It requires context. There are not a lot of players that can score 36 a game on 61.1 TS%. If there was, others would be doing it, because that is great offense. The Rockets have the 2nd best offense in the NBA, despite a bunch of injuries and Eric Gordon shooting very poorly for the season. Harden is clearly the reason for that.

The fact that he can shoot 29/111 from 3 over 9 games and still score at an average efficiency(55.08 TS%) shows how good he is. The NBA average this year is 55.9 TS%.

I don't like the guy. He is my least favorite player in the NBA. I hate watching him try to game the system on every possession. With that said, his scoring volume on elite efficiency is ridiculous and absolutely worthy of being top 3 in MVP for the regular season.

I don't like his style of play, but it's not even about it.
When I think about James Harden, "efficiency" is not the first word that came to my mind. Shooting that much with poor % is not efficiency to me.

I mean give the same amount of shots to Kyrie, and he will avg 33ppg easily.

And there is also Mike D'Antoni. Just like the Suns with Bell, Nash, Barbosa, Marion etc...the Rockets are shooting a lot of threes. His players have a lot of freedom to shoot the ball whenever and wherever they want. Right now they have 5 guys shooting more than 5 threes/game (almost 6 players, Tucker avg 4.8/game).
They avg 44.7 threes/game, and 42.2 twos/game. It's just crazy, and I don't think that you can win a title like this.

He is probably a very good player...but I would hate to see a guy like him in my team.