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Re: Hard to Believe Ainge will Make any Move Soon Trade Thread 

Post#1641 » by Bohemian » Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:17 pm

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Tomjas wrote:Sixers fan here but have a soft spot for Celtics as they have been a high profile team here in Australia for decades

IMO, Boston lost something when they didn’t replace Al and Aaron

The Js are quality obviously but I don’t see who is going to stop Giannis, Embiid, AD etc so your guys are going to have to shoot lights out to stay with them

Al is expensive and Aaron seems to be on downhill slide

Anyone else?

I think the hope was that Robert Williams was going to be ready to be a defensive stopper and then TT to be more effective than he has been. Still have hope for both, but neither will be the answer.

I like Whiteside or Javale McGee as cheap options for legit 7 footers to give a bit more rim protection. They'd give them a 4 man rotation that you could in theory use the "moneyball" approach on and just have a ton of different looks. Theis is jack of all trades master of none, TT is rebounding specialist, Timelord is the lob catcher/rim protector and then one of Whiteside/McGee as more of a banger.

Being able to show a lot of looks and switch up based on matchups might be enough to fill that hole and let the talent on the wings take games over.


I agree with this. We needed a rim protector desperately, and those guys whiteside, Mcgee, or even Dwight before the Lakers got him, were cheap options. Still a lot better than having no rim protection at all. Embiid didn’t even worked a sweat defending Theis and TT.


Javale is represented by BJ Armstrong . He and Ainge had some kind of issues in the past.
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Post#1642 » by Ernest » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:08 pm

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cl2117 wrote:I think the hope was that Robert Williams was going to be ready to be a defensive stopper and then TT to be more effective than he has been. Still have hope for both, but neither will be the answer.

I like Whiteside or Javale McGee as cheap options for legit 7 footers to give a bit more rim protection. They'd give them a 4 man rotation that you could in theory use the "moneyball" approach on and just have a ton of different looks. Theis is jack of all trades master of none, TT is rebounding specialist, Timelord is the lob catcher/rim protector and then one of Whiteside/McGee as more of a banger.

Being able to show a lot of looks and switch up based on matchups might be enough to fill that hole and let the talent on the wings take games over.


I agree with this. We needed a rim protector desperately, and those guys whiteside, Mcgee, or even Dwight before the Lakers got him, were cheap options. Still a lot better than having no rim protection at all. Embiid didn’t even worked a sweat defending Theis and TT.


Javale is represented by BJ Armstrong . He and Ainge had some kind of issues in the past.


Dwight looked pretty good out there. We should have tried to get him. I really wonder about DMC. Hou isn't going to make any noise this year so you'd think he could be traded for if we want him. I know people on here say he's washed up- and maybe he is- but they said the same thing about Dwight for years now and clearly he is still really good in a back up role.
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Post#1643 » by gammajamma » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:11 pm

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cl2117 wrote:I think the hope was that Robert Williams was going to be ready to be a defensive stopper and then TT to be more effective than he has been. Still have hope for both, but neither will be the answer.

I like Whiteside or Javale McGee as cheap options for legit 7 footers to give a bit more rim protection. They'd give them a 4 man rotation that you could in theory use the "moneyball" approach on and just have a ton of different looks. Theis is jack of all trades master of none, TT is rebounding specialist, Timelord is the lob catcher/rim protector and then one of Whiteside/McGee as more of a banger.

Being able to show a lot of looks and switch up based on matchups might be enough to fill that hole and let the talent on the wings take games over.


I agree with this. We needed a rim protector desperately, and those guys whiteside, Mcgee, or even Dwight before the Lakers got him, were cheap options. Still a lot better than having no rim protection at all. Embiid didn’t even worked a sweat defending Theis and TT.


Javale is represented by BJ Armstrong . He and Ainge had some kind of issues in the past.


Involving Javale I believe as well. Celtics signed him then Javale backed out because of BJ if I remember correctly
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Post#1644 » by Ernest » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 pm

Long term hope we target Thybull(spelling?) on Phi. Obviously they won't want to give him up, but man that guy impresses me every time I see him play. He'd be a great Celtic someday.
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Post#1645 » by VeryMuchWoke » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:22 pm

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VeryMuchWoke wrote:People are way too concerned about the back end of the roster and not concerned enough with the top. The goal should be getting another all-star to pair with Tatum and Brown and maximizing the team 3-5 years from now.


Were not going to be able to under the current cap. Best hope is that theres a spike in 2 years after a new TV deal and we have cap space after Kemba expires.



I don't mind if it comes at the expense of Kemba, but it wouldn't have to be. It could come from buying low on a young talented player like Bagley. I'm not advocating for Bagley because I'm not that familiar, but a top 5 pick that's not working out for a bad org could be a way to do it. PJ Tucker is not the answer unless the goal is just to make the conference finals again.
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Post#1646 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:19 pm

gammajamma wrote:
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I agree with this. We needed a rim protector desperately, and those guys whiteside, Mcgee, or even Dwight before the Lakers got him, were cheap options. Still a lot better than having no rim protection at all. Embiid didn’t even worked a sweat defending Theis and TT.


Javale is represented by BJ Armstrong . He and Ainge had some kind of issues in the past.


Involving Javale I believe as well. Celtics signed him then Javale backed out because of BJ if I remember correctly


We had an agreement with Javale for a 1 year deal with a team option after he was bought out a few years back. Armstrong renegged and demanded it become a player option.

Armstrong also represented Josh Jackson when he pulled the canceled workout shenanigans, FWIW.
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Post#1647 » by vct33 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:26 pm

I’m terrible and putting trades together. How do I make this 3-teamer fair?

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Post#1648 » by Celtics_Champs » Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:51 pm

Wait what’s this about Scary Terry? Should I take my shirt out of retirement?
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Post#1649 » by Drax » Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:02 pm

Celtics_Champs wrote:Wait what’s this about Scary Terry? Should I take my shirt out of retirement?


I could bump the 'Get Terry Rozier out of town' thread for y'all.

People see Roziers numbers, wonder what could have been if we kept him and if we could use the TPE on him.
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Post#1650 » by Dogen » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:22 pm

Anyone back on the Boogie train yet?
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Post#1651 » by Dogen » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:42 pm

Celtics_Champs wrote:Wait what’s this about Scary Terry? Should I take my shirt out of retirement?


I’m stocking up on spaghetti and ranch just in case.
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Post#1652 » by Asian Celtic » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:33 pm

Ernest wrote:Long term hope we target Thybull(spelling?) on Phi. Obviously they won't want to give him up, but man that guy impresses me every time I see him play. He'd be a great Celtic someday.


I like him too! Looks to be on the Robert Covington path.
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Post#1653 » by cl2117 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:37 pm

One stop shopping with SAC:

BOS:
Barnes, Bjelica, Whiteside

SAC: Nesmith, Thompson, Edwards

Scoring wing and stretch 4, both can be lights out from 3. Legit 7 footer who can be our banger. Revamps our bench and we only lose TT out of the rotation with Theis/Timelord/Whiteside being just as good if not better (especially giving us the matchup for Embiid/Bam).
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Post#1654 » by Shak_Celts » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:47 pm

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Celtics_Champs wrote:Wait what’s this about Scary Terry? Should I take my shirt out of retirement?


I could bump the 'Get Terry Rozier out of town' thread for y'all.

People see Roziers numbers, wonder what could have been if we kept him and if we could use the TPE on him.


That season and attitudes were disasters! Terry couldn't stay after that beef with Hay and CBS because at that time, neither were leaving. I don't think he could come back here with CBS still here, but without all that crap of that season, Terry would fit well with the Jays if he had a bigger role, much like the one he had the year before The Season of Kyrie. It is what it is, it's over now.
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Post#1655 » by Shak_Celts » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:50 pm

cl2117 wrote:One stop shopping with SAC:

BOS:
Barnes, Bjelica, Whiteside

SAC: Nesmith, Thompson, Edwards

Scoring wing and stretch 4, both can be lights out from 3. Legit 7 footer who can be our banger. Revamps our bench and we only lose TT out of the rotation with Theis/Timelord/Whiteside being just as good if not better (especially giving us the matchup for Embiid/Bam).



LOL what? What are kings getting from us? I guess Nesmith is the "prize" but why does Sacto think that at this point?
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Post#1656 » by cl2117 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:04 am

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cl2117 wrote:One stop shopping with SAC:

BOS:
Barnes, Bjelica, Whiteside

SAC: Nesmith, Thompson, Edwards

Scoring wing and stretch 4, both can be lights out from 3. Legit 7 footer who can be our banger. Revamps our bench and we only lose TT out of the rotation with Theis/Timelord/Whiteside being just as good if not better (especially giving us the matchup for Embiid/Bam).



LOL what? What are kings getting from us? I guess Nesmith is the "prize" but why does Sacto think that at this point?

They save a ton of money getting off of Barnes/Bjelica and Whiteside doesn't play for them. Might need to kick in seconds as well, but Barnes/Bjelica has been kicked around on the trade board and this is about the value.

Kings fans see Barnes as almost neutral value, Bjelica maybe a late first and Whiteside as seconds. So Nesmith/Edwards with TT as filler isn't a bad haul for them.
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Post#1657 » by playa-hater » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:17 am

cl2117 wrote:One stop shopping with SAC:

BOS:
Barnes, Bjelica, Whiteside

SAC: Nesmith, Thompson, Edwards

Scoring wing and stretch 4, both can be lights out from 3. Legit 7 footer who can be our banger. Revamps our bench and we only lose TT out of the rotation with Theis/Timelord/Whiteside being just as good if not better (especially giving us the matchup for Embiid/Bam).


I don't want to give up a young 3 and D shooter (Nesmith) even though he has started out slow. I like the Sac players, would rather throw in a 1st.
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Post#1658 » by cl2117 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:19 am

playa-hater wrote:
cl2117 wrote:One stop shopping with SAC:

BOS:
Barnes, Bjelica, Whiteside

SAC: Nesmith, Thompson, Edwards

Scoring wing and stretch 4, both can be lights out from 3. Legit 7 footer who can be our banger. Revamps our bench and we only lose TT out of the rotation with Theis/Timelord/Whiteside being just as good if not better (especially giving us the matchup for Embiid/Bam).


I don't want to give up a young 3 and D shooter (Nesmith) even though he has started out slow. I like the Sac players, would rather throw in a 1st.

I think a 1st might be a bit light given what they're giving up. Maybe if we tacked on seconds as well it could be enough. Depends on how they value TT since he's got that 2nd year guaranteed.
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Post#1659 » by playa-hater » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:26 am

cl2117 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
cl2117 wrote:One stop shopping with SAC:

BOS:
Barnes, Bjelica, Whiteside

SAC: Nesmith, Thompson, Edwards

Scoring wing and stretch 4, both can be lights out from 3. Legit 7 footer who can be our banger. Revamps our bench and we only lose TT out of the rotation with Theis/Timelord/Whiteside being just as good if not better (especially giving us the matchup for Embiid/Bam).


I don't want to give up a young 3 and D shooter (Nesmith) even though he has started out slow. I like the Sac players, would rather throw in a 1st.

I think a 1st might be a bit light given what they're giving up. Maybe if we tacked on seconds as well it could be enough. Depends on how they value TT since he's got that 2nd year guaranteed.[/quote]

They all in rebuild mode I don't think they need I the play a for their future. So dumping some salary and getting a first is still a pretty good bet in my opinion
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Post#1660 » by cl2117 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:33 am

playa-hater wrote: They all in rebuild mode I don't think they need I the play a for their future. So dumping some salary and getting a first is still a pretty good bet in my opinion

I don't disagree, but I think they'd get better value by splitting it up potentially. A couple seconds for Whiteside, maybe a late first for Bjelica and/or Barnes from a team in need of scoring.

I'd prefer to give up just a first obviously since it's gonna be late 20's, but think they might break up the package and shop it around in that case.
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