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The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1641 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:27 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Anyway as mediocre as KP is I don’t think they trade him for Horford just to save 15 million next year


And 30 the year after I think.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1642 » by 31to6 » Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:51 pm

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Shak_Celts wrote:Y'all do this to yourselves every season and all we ever got at this time is a half-ish season of Fourny. It's usually business as usual unless it's the offseason.

I mean there's a new person in charge for the first time in 18 years. It could very well look different this time. Brad has already made a lot of moves for someone new to the role. I could see him doing something.


True. He's also been here, if he wanted players moved I'm sure he had sway to have someone moved in or out. He has traded since becoming POBO, but they have been so small they aren't worth mentioning, except the one to send kemba out and I'm sure Danny would have done that, if not the same deal, kemba was being shipped.

We'll see, but it feels like it's gonna be the same until the offseason. That's not a bad thing, to me, but it's going to be really annoying around here when Cs stick with the guys we got. It's already madness here because of our record.


It's early yet. But when the interview Qs about the trade deadline start to happen in the next month or so, I'mma be strung out if Brad says "you know, we really like our guys"
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1643 » by playa-hater » Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:09 pm

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TheOGJabroni wrote:I mean there's a new person in charge for the first time in 18 years. It could very well look different this time. Brad has already made a lot of moves for someone new to the role. I could see him doing something.


True. He's also been here, if he wanted players moved I'm sure he had sway to have someone moved in or out. He has traded since becoming POBO, but they have been so small they aren't worth mentioning, except the one to send kemba out and I'm sure Danny would have done that, if not the same deal, kemba was being shipped.

We'll see, but it feels like it's gonna be the same until the offseason. That's not a bad thing, to me, but it's going to be really annoying around here when Cs stick with the guys we got. It's already madness here because of our record.


It's early yet. But when the interview Qs about the trade deadline start to happen in the next month or so, I'mma be strung out if Brad says "you know, we really like our guys"


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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1644 » by robbie84 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:39 am

The question is, what is the long term fit for these guys? Once Horford expires, who replaces Him?

What if Grant Williams continues to play/shoot like this all year?
Do we insert him next to Rob to replace Horford?
Or do we go small and use Grant at the 5, putting someone like Jerami Grant next to Grant Williams as our two 'bigs' ? Can we beat a team like the 76ers or Lakers with enough offense to mitigate Embid or Davis scoring 40 points, 15 rebounds in a 7 game series etc?
Or do we let Grant Williams go, and insert Jerami Grant next to Rob Williams?
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1645 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:01 am

robbie84 wrote:The question is, what is the long term fit for these guys? Once Horford expires, who replaces Him?

What if Grant Williams continues to play/shoot like this all year?
Do we insert him next to Rob to replace Horford?
Or do we go small and use Grant at the 5, putting someone like Jerami Grant next to Grant Williams as our two 'bigs' ? Can we beat a team like the 76ers or Lakers with enough offense to mitigate Embid or Davis scoring 40 points, 15 rebounds in a 7 game series etc?
Or do we let Grant Williams go, and insert Jerami Grant next to Rob Williams?


Better question is *how* you get a replacement big for Horford.. don’t think it’s Grant. Worst case, with our wing “depth”, Tatum has to go back to the four..
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Post#1646 » by moonie_mcgee » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:17 am

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31to6 wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:
True. He's also been here, if he wanted players moved I'm sure he had sway to have someone moved in or out. He has traded since becoming POBO, but they have been so small they aren't worth mentioning, except the one to send kemba out and I'm sure Danny would have done that, if not the same deal, kemba was being shipped.

We'll see, but it feels like it's gonna be the same until the offseason. That's not a bad thing, to me, but it's going to be really annoying around here when Cs stick with the guys we got. It's already madness here because of our record.


It's early yet. But when the interview Qs about the trade deadline start to happen in the next month or so, I'mma be strung out if Brad says "you know, we really like our guys"


Not funny :crazy:


"you know *pause* I've said this before *heavy heart* but *sigh* we really like our guys.

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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1647 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:37 am

I'm curious to see how many folks here will still care on Feb. 11 (the day after the trade deadline).

I'm guessing that Stevens knows what must be done. He's not stupid. But I wonder if he will have the balls to do it.
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Post#1648 » by Marvel » Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:45 am

I'd like to see Brad go hard after Jerami Grant
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Post#1649 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:00 am

Who could we realistically trade midseason that we wouldn't be selling low on? Schroeder, Richardson and Grant Williams come to mind, as do the guys who never play. But that's not a lot of outgoing asset value to bring anything great back.
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Post#1650 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:09 am

We like our guys
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Post#1651 » by robbie84 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:16 am

Curmudgeon wrote:I'm curious to see how many folks here will still care on Feb. 11 (the day after the trade deadline).

I'm guessing that Stevens knows what must be done. He's not stupid. But I wonder if he will have the balls to do it.


I think you'll be seriously disappointed.
We've barely had our starting 5 play together.
Missed our 2nd best player for almost 50% of the season.
This team hasn't had time together to be judged yet-which is what Brad knows.
Maybe by February we'll have had enough games as a healthy squad but right now it's simply too early and too impulsive to makes changes to what is a great roster on paper- they need to play together first.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1652 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:33 am

robbie84 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:I'm curious to see how many folks here will still care on Feb. 11 (the day after the trade deadline).

I'm guessing that Stevens knows what must be done. He's not stupid. But I wonder if he will have the balls to do it.


I think you'll be seriously disappointed.
We've barely had our starting 5 play together.
Missed our 2nd best player for almost 50% of the season.
This team hasn't had time together to be judged yet-which is what Brad knows.
Maybe by February we'll have had enough games as a healthy squad but right now it's simply too early and too impulsive to makes changes to what is a great roster on paper- they need to play together first.



All true.

But we need shooting
We need schroder gone
We need an upgrade in bench depth

I am fine with finishing out the season with either grant or josh as the 5th starter.

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Grant
Timelord or williams

Smart
Richardson
Brown
Tatum
Horford or williams
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Post#1653 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:48 pm

robbie84 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:I'm curious to see how many folks here will still care on Feb. 11 (the day after the trade deadline).

I'm guessing that Stevens knows what must be done. He's not stupid. But I wonder if he will have the balls to do it.


I think you'll be seriously disappointed.
We've barely had our starting 5 play together.
Missed our 2nd best player for almost 50% of the season.
This team hasn't had time together to be judged yet-which is what Brad knows.
Maybe by February we'll have had enough games as a healthy squad but right now it's simply too early and too impulsive to makes changes to what is a great roster on paper- they need to play together first.


It’s too soon to trade Jaylen. Not too soon to put a cap on the ceiling w Schroeder/Josh/Al trades or tax moves..
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Post#1654 » by CelticFaninLBC » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:20 pm

Boston gets Murray and Turner
Indy gets Smart
San Antonio get R. Williams, Nesmith, Juancho and protected 2022 FRP
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Post#1655 » by jonige94 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:30 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Boston gets Murray and Turner
Indy gets Smart
San Antonio get R. Williams, Nesmith, Juancho and protected 2022 FRP

Why would S.Antonio do that lol.
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Post#1656 » by CelticFaninLBC » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:32 pm

jonige94 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:Boston gets Murray and Turner
Indy gets Smart
San Antonio get R. Williams, Nesmith, Juancho and protected 2022 FRP

Why would S.Antonio do that lol.


They need a center and Murray's under contract for two more years.
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Post#1657 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:35 pm

Keep: Tatum, Brown

Play: Langford, R Williams, G Williams, Nesmith and Pritchard

Move: Schroder, Juancho, Parker, Kanter and Fernando

Move only if it makes you better: Smart, Richardson, Horford

This isn't hard.
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Post#1658 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:35 pm

Poeltl (however you spell his name) is better than Timelord. At pretty much everything except jumping and passing.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1659 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:50 pm

robbie84 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:I'm curious to see how many folks here will still care on Feb. 11 (the day after the trade deadline).

I'm guessing that Stevens knows what must be done. He's not stupid. But I wonder if he will have the balls to do it.


I think you'll be seriously disappointed.


No, because I've already been seriously disappointed and I no longer care. After many decades as a died-in-the-wool Celtics fan, Tatum and Brown have cured me of that affliction with their sloppy, selfish play.
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Post#1660 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:55 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Boston gets Murray and Turner
Indy gets Smart
San Antonio get R. Williams, Nesmith, Juancho and protected 2022 FRP



Done. No take backs.

Leaves the ability to still nab an upgrade at sg or pf.

Murray
Brown
Tatum
??
Turner

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