2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg

[playa-hater]

#28 prob gets used to move Jrue. #32 I would guess gets traded back once for a extra second then a flyer on someone.

This would be a worst case scenario for me. That has losing Desmond bane Just to get rid of Enes kanta's salary vibe all over again.

[ThePigeon]

#28 prob gets used to move Jrue. #32 I would guess gets traded back once for a extra second then a flyer on someone.

I don't think we will add an asset to get rid of Jrue. There will be a market for him
White is the one that can get us a real haul. I'll keep Jrue in this case and cash in on White. Jrue was bothered by several nagging injuries and played too many games in the last two season that had a toll on his body. He was used as a fourth/fifth option on our team on offense, hence the decline in productivity. Just a few years ago he was the second best player on a championship team, having many games with 10+ assists and scoring 20+ in crucial playoff games. I think he can still do it if he gets enough rest on the summer vacation

[Dogen]

I like Thiero OK, but that shot looks so stiff and mechanical.

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[Dogen]

#28 prob gets used to move Jrue. #32 I would guess gets traded back once for a extra second then a flyer on someone.

This would be a worst case scenario for me. That has losing Desmond bane Just to get rid of Enes kanta's salary vibe all over again.

I may be repressing the memory, but I thought it was Poirier that was the contract that needed to move.

Or, wait, we kept Victor and had to move Enes Pre-Freedom? Whatever it was, crappy deal to lose Bane. We got both Bane and Pritchard at the end of the first round!

[playa-hater]

I like Thiero OK, but that shot looks so stiff and mechanical.

Watch on YouTube

I agree with your shooting description

[Smart2Nesmith43]

I like Thiero OK, but that shot looks so stiff and mechanical.

Watch on YouTube

I agree with your shooting description

I'm no expert but there's something I can't quite put my finger on that bothers me with his base. Just doesn't look like something he'll be able to set consistently in game.

[phincsfan]

I like Thiero OK, but that shot looks so stiff and mechanical.

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I trust Cal's eyes for pg's and bigs. But Thiero does have some good genes. Crazy athleticism.

The vibe I get from him is Scottie Barnes. Barnes became a decent shooter in the pros.

Working on getting the 1st round

[165bows]

I like Thiero OK, but that shot looks so stiff and mechanical.

Watch on YouTube

True but he’s also got that wide shouldered no neck build that tends to play up at the pro level where the guy plays bigger than his numbers

[phincsfan]

Stevens mentioned the C’s held two workouts yesterday before the press conference. Anybody know who the players were?

[winsomme2]

Anybody interested in RJ Luis?

He has a lot of skill, can score at three levels, good on offense and defense. He tested well at the combine. He has good size and length for a wing and showed above average athletic ability.

I know he fell flat in that last tournament game but he looks like he could do really well in the pros to me.

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kinda growing on me...not many holes in his game.

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I like Thiero OK, but that shot looks so stiff and mechanical.

Watch on YouTube

I trust Cal's eyes for pg's and bigs. But Thiero does have some good genes. Crazy athleticism.

The vibe I get from him is Scottie Barnes. Barnes became a decent shooter in the pros.

Working on getting the 1st round

Eh..for every Scottie Barnes, there's like 20+ guys who are poor shooters in college who don't become good shooters in the NBA.

Hell, there's even guys like Jaden Springer who was a good shooter in college (40% from 3, 80% FT) who shot poorly in the NBA.

Springer and Barnes were also over 2 years older than Thiero when drafted..

Thiero is athletic but there's lots of guys who are athletic who don't make it in the NBA. Greg Brown, Feron Hunt, Jacob Toppin, Hamidou Diallo, etc.

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Stevens mentioned the C’s held two workouts yesterday before the press conference. Anybody know who the players were?

Nope..JUst checked the workout tracker and it's the same 4 guys listed there under Boston (Haggerty, Small, Oweh, Sanon)

Seems like Brad is really playing it close to the vest..not leaking info about who we're working out or what our offseason plans are

#stealthbrad

[Celts17Pride]

This guy worked out for the Celtics the other day:

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I think Javon Small is a sleeper in this draft and I hope Brad Stevens selects him. I get a little bit of Maxey vibes from this guy.

As of May 20th my ideal draft for the Celtics would be Yaxel Lendeborg at #28 and Javon Small at #32.

[playa-hater]

I like Thiero OK, but that shot looks so stiff and mechanical.

Watch on YouTube

I agree with your shooting description

I'm no expert but there's something I can't quite put my finger on that bothers me with his base. Just doesn't look like something he'll be able to set consistently in game.

Even if a player can be taught all the proper mechanics, the one thing that is hard to see, which separates bad-pretty-good-great shooters is the inner confidence and "natural feel/touch" It is in my opinion that real shooting touch is nurtured at a very young age. And so is confidence. Obviously there are many examples of successful improvements, so it can be done. But it is my belief, through experience, that the older a player gets, Middle school/HS/College/Pros, the harder it is to really make significant gains. I am sure Boston's coaches have good knowledge of proper shooting techniques, yet that alone has not helped a player like Jordan Walsh (one example). Simple reason may be his lack of inner confidence. Anyhow, once again I will trust Stevens in that regard.

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This guy worked out for the Celtics the other day:

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I think Javon Small is a sleeper in this draft and I hope Brad Stevens selects him. I get a little bit of Maxey vibes from this guy.

As of May 20th my ideal draft for the Celtics would be Yaxel Lendeborg at #28 and Javon Small at #32.

I wouldn't hate that outcome. 2 solid players. Both age 22 so less of a risky development project, more ready to play. Both with potential to contribute and not be a liability on either end of the floor.

[Celts17Pride]

This guy worked out for the Celtics the other day:

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I think Javon Small is a sleeper in this draft and I hope Brad Stevens selects him. I get a little bit of Maxey vibes from this guy.

As of May 20th my ideal draft for the Celtics would be Yaxel Lendeborg at #28 and Javon Small at #32.

I wouldn't hate that outcome. 2 solid players. Both age 22 so less of a risky development project, more ready to play. Both with potential to contribute and not be a liability on either end of the floor.

I'm greedy, so I hope the Celtics get another 1st round pick with their trade dealings which are almost certain to happen before or during the draft. Grab a Brooklyn or Orlando pick. #25, #26 or #27 would be a good way to add another young piece.

[Dogen]

This guy worked out for the Celtics the other day:

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I think Javon Small is a sleeper in this draft and I hope Brad Stevens selects him. I get a little bit of Maxey vibes from this guy.

As of May 20th my ideal draft for the Celtics would be Yaxel Lendeborg at #28 and Javon Small at #32.

I wouldn't hate that outcome. 2 solid players. Both age 22 so less of a risky development project, more ready to play. Both with potential to contribute and not be a liability on either end of the floor.

Small is growing on me, perhaps mostly due to the fact that the team brought him in already, but also seeing how he already has a enough size and an NBA-ready body at 22. He doesn't look like he'll get swallowed up by teams even though he's 6'3". Maybe he's the Toyota Corolla of Maxey's: not so much speed but gets the job done.

Philon has been my binky for this draft, and I see the upside, but Small already has a decent J and more experience. Depends on what happens with injuries, trades, and so on, but Javon may be able to contribute next season, even if on a 2-Way to start the season.

Despite the current upheaval, Lendeborg and Small are complimentary additions to the recent picks of Scheierman and Walsh.

[165bows]

This guy worked out for the Celtics the other day:

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I think Javon Small is a sleeper in this draft and I hope Brad Stevens selects him. I get a little bit of Maxey vibes from this guy.

As of May 20th my ideal draft for the Celtics would be Yaxel Lendeborg at #28 and Javon Small at #32.

Small is a pretty appealing guy. Same reasons I've mentioned a few guys I like, this team likes physical guys with well-rounded attributes and size. Tough to find the obvious hole in his game other than some size and maybe he's got to develop more into a 1 than a combo guard but this team loves doing that anyways with guys so I don't see that as a big issue for them.

Still like Sion James in a similar role, and is a guy that could have the size/strength/length to deal with the growing group of size and/or strength plus skill scoring guards out there like SGA, Brunson or Cade Cunningham.

Maybe not the same scoring upside though.

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This guy worked out for the Celtics the other day:

Read on Twitter

I think Javon Small is a sleeper in this draft and I hope Brad Stevens selects him. I get a little bit of Maxey vibes from this guy.

As of May 20th my ideal draft for the Celtics would be Yaxel Lendeborg at #28 and Javon Small at #32.

Small is a pretty appealing guy. Same reasons I've mentioned a few guys I like, this team likes physical guys with well-rounded attributes and size. Tough to find the obvious hole in his game other than some size and maybe he's got to develop more into a 1 than a combo guard but this team loves doing that anyways with guys so I don't see that as a big issue for them.

Still like Sion James in a similar role, and is a guy that could have the size/strength/length to deal with the growing group of size and/or strength plus skill scoring guards out there like SGA, Brunson or Cade Cunningham.

Maybe not the same scoring upside though.

I actually think Small is about as close to a true PG (the old school floor general, facilitator type) as there is in this draft class.

This game for example was a playmaking clinic by Small:

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He plays bigger than his listed height too..40" vertical and had 15 dunks (James had 17 so very close there).

James played some PG for Duke but it was really PG by committee for them, watching the film..with Foster, Knueppel, Proctor and even sometimes Flagg bringing the ball up and getting them into their offense.

[playa-hater]

I also like Small, the player. But until Boston officially deals Jrue (IF they do), I still want bigger players first at the 3-4-5 positions. Thinking need +talent should be as good or better than PGs. But regardless, "Shooters" have the biggest requirements for me at any perimeter position. So we'll see.