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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1661 » by Valid » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:08 pm

tester551 wrote:Portland fan here coming in peace. There are a lot of Blazer fans who are wanting to get Green from you. As such I have caught a few of the recent C games to see how well I think he would fit. Honestly, the guy who caught my eye was Turner. I think he would be a great fit for what we really need (a secondary ball handler who can let Lillard play the 2 on O, but can guard the opposing 2).

What would it take to get him? We have lots of expiring contracts that we can trade. Maybe CJ McCullum & Victor Claver?

You guys would be nuts to trade McCollum for Turner, in my opinion. I'd do that trade in less than a second.
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Post#1662 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Jan 9, 2015 4:32 pm

Robinson's still pinned down under the bust train, but once that passes, people will start to appreciate that he can be a really nice role-player in this league. Think he's an unrestricted FA, though..
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Post#1663 » by KJandHondo35 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 4:55 pm

andy582 wrote:Robinson's still pinned down under the bust train, but once that passes, people will start to appreciate that he can be a really nice role-player in this league. Think he's an unrestricted FA, though..

He will be a UFA at the end of the season. I just don't know if I can honestly call him a bust when he's never been in a situation that would even get him reasonable minutes. After getting drafted by the Kings (worst franchise) he goes to the Rockets for 19 games who didn't need him having just drafted Terrence Jones then traded to a team with a top 5 PF in the league who plays almost 40 minutes a game and refuses to play 5 for any meaningful amount of time. I can't blame TRob for not outplaying a franchise player in his second season, and now they are in a playoff race and are not in the develop players business. He more than worth a good look, check him out first hand for 30+ games and resign him at a decent level because his been dicked around for the first few years of his career. Call me crazy but if TRob was treated like Sully we would have a radically different view of him IMO.
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Post#1664 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Jan 9, 2015 5:24 pm

Fair enough, I mean I advocate for Dion Waiters.. What was Robinson's draft class, again?
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Post#1665 » by KJandHondo35 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 5:32 pm

andy582 wrote:Fair enough, I mean I advocate for Dion Waiters.. What was Robinson's draft class, again?

2012, Same as Sully.
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Post#1666 » by VeryMuchWoke » Fri Jan 9, 2015 6:23 pm

This doesn't deserve its own thread, but its OT here:

Should we waive Pressey to pick up Nate Wolters? He had a pretty decent rookie year. I'm not that familiar with him but I believe he can shoot and he torched us once.
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Post#1667 » by tester551 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 6:24 pm

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tester551 wrote:Portland fan here coming in peace. There are a lot of Blazer fans who are wanting to get Green from you. As such I have caught a few of the recent C games to see how well I think he would fit. Honestly, the guy who caught my eye was Turner. I think he would be a great fit for what we really need (a secondary ball handler who can let Lillard play the 2 on O, but can guard the opposing 2).

What would it take to get him? We have lots of expiring contracts that we can trade. Maybe CJ McCullum & Victor Claver?


Which of the expiring group of Freeland/Claver/Robinson/Wright group are considered expendable?

And Green has been an eyesore lately, but he's capable in bigger moments. Some of his best stretches were in 2013 leading up to and in the playoff series. He generally showed up to play against Miami in the RS matchups against LeBron as well. Hasn't shown anything since Rondo was traded really, though.


My personal view of our expendable contracts (from most expendable to least) is:
Claver ($1.3M ex), Barton ($0.9M ex), Crabbe ($0.9M 1yr), decent sized gap... Wright ($3M ex), McCollum ($2.4M 2yr), T-Rob ($3.7M ex), another decent sized gap.... Leonard ($2.3M 2yr) then Freeland ($3M ex).

From a financial point, Green makes too much money for Portland to play 15-minutes a night.

laploutocratie wrote:Is Meyers Leonard a worthwhile project to invest in? It seems like he never gets burn there.

Most Portland fans would say no and want him cut/traded ASAP. But I see a lot of potential there and would not give him up easily (right or wrong).

Drax wrote:Personally i'd do Turner for McCollum straight up. Should work moneywise and the value is fine.

Money wise, a straight swap doesn't work. That is why I added Claver. If you need a 2 for 2 swap, it looks like Pressey has a small enough salary to make it work.

KJandHondo35 wrote:I'd do it for TRob in a heartbeat...

That would work. However, I think Portland needs a bit more value coming back. Maybe the Philly pick that will turn into a 2nd rounder next year?

GreenMachine wrote:He's not one of the guys we are in a huge rush to trade... but he's also not considered part of our future. That being that case, we want the same thing we want for basically everyone over 24 on our roster: Expirings and a 1st round pick.

Some here might be interested in your young guys... But I'm not one of them. Doesn't CJ fit the description of what you say you are looking for?

CJ has a lot of good qualities, but he definitely is not a PG. He can handle it on occasion (1 or 2 time up a court), but that's about it. He is also a little small for the SG position (6'-4", 200#) when playing bigger guards.

What I see in Turner is someone who can run the point, but is also bigger (6'-6") on defense.
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Post#1668 » by theman » Fri Jan 9, 2015 10:22 pm

tester551 wrote:Portland fan here coming in peace. There are a lot of Blazer fans who are wanting to get Green from you. As such I have caught a few of the recent C games to see how well I think he would fit. Honestly, the guy who caught my eye was Turner. I think he would be a great fit for what we really need (a secondary ball handler who can let Lillard play the 2 on O, but can guard the opposing 2).

What would it take to get him? We have lots of expiring contracts that we can trade. Maybe CJ McCullum & Victor Claver?


If Claver is expiring or better yet non-guaranteed sign me up. First round picks are always good too.
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Post#1669 » by brackdan70 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:21 am

will see where the dust settles after the Green trade...but after sending wright to Cleveland the Cs are approx. 11 million below the tax line.....and holding a 13 million TPE....hmm opens up some possibilities
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Post#1670 » by JohnB » Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:38 am

And there is still a lot of time. Anyone know the record for most trades made by one team in a season?
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Post#1671 » by Zaschrona » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:35 am

That's why I think Ainge did a great job today - he now has around 40 days to find a deal to absorb some assets right into that Rondo TPE. We need to use that TPE now to not let it expire when will have tons of cap space in summer. Wright TPE will help us with deals a lot as well.
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Post#1672 » by underneathtoDJ » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:00 pm

Zaschrona wrote:That's why I think Ainge did a great job today - he now has around 40 days to find a deal to absorb some assets right into that Rondo TPE. We need to use that TPE now to not let it expire when will have tons of cap space in summer. Wright TPE will help us with deals a lot as well.


Any ideas on who they'd be targeting with the Rondo TPE?

The only guys I can think of so far that would fit into the $12.9M TPE that 1. their team would be willing to give up and 2. is worth it for the C's to add at their salary would be:

MIL- Larry Sanders (3yrs/$11M per left after this season)
CHA- Lance Stephenson (1 more year at $9M then a team option for another $9.4M after this season)
MIN- Nikola Pekovic (they have no reason to move him, but perhaps Danny could entice MIN with a number of draft picks). I'm realize I'm stretching here. Maybe the same with Kevin Martin, although I'm not sure I want to use the TPE on him.

I'm not seeing a whole lot of options if he's going to use the TPE before the offseason.

Or maybe Ainge could target a player with a big unguaranteed contract for next year, which would give him more trade options in the offseason, such as being able to add that player and his salary with others in a bigger deal.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1673 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:02 pm

They can use the Rondo TPE to take multiple guys right? Mayo and Dudley from Milw. works...
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Post#1674 » by underneathtoDJ » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:32 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:They can use the Rondo TPE to take multiple guys right? Mayo and Dudley from Milw. works...


Sure, but why does MIL want to move Mayo and, to a lesser degree, Dudley for a TPE and a pick or two? That does nothing to help them this year.
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Post#1675 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:47 pm

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CelticFaninLBC wrote:They can use the Rondo TPE to take multiple guys right? Mayo and Dudley from Milw. works...


Sure, but why does MIL want to move Mayo and, to a lesser degree, Dudley for a TPE and a pick or two? That does nothing to help them this year.


There's no reason for them to do it during the season, but it's a possible move prior to the draft, which frees up cap space.
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Post#1676 » by bucknersrevenge » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:49 pm

I'm hoping with all of these draft picks that we now have that not only might we have the option of combining them with other players or picks to move up in the draft but just like with this conversation about T-Rob, who I'd love to see us go after, but we might use a pick or 2 to acquire maybe recently drafted talent that may have fallen out of the rotation on their current teams or simply may be vulnerable for the right pick. For example, Danny liked a few guys in last year's draft. If he could squeeze Gordon out of them with a pick I'm not convinced he wouldn't do it. Or maybe Doug McDermott. Longshots, but point is, with a lot of picks we have a lot of avenues we can try.
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Post#1677 » by bucknersrevenge » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:00 pm

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andy582 wrote:Robinson's still pinned down under the bust train, but once that passes, people will start to appreciate that he can be a really nice role-player in this league. Think he's an unrestricted FA, though..

He will be a UFA at the end of the season. I just don't know if I can honestly call him a bust when he's never been in a situation that would even get him reasonable minutes. After getting drafted by the Kings (worst franchise) he goes to the Rockets for 19 games who didn't need him having just drafted Terrence Jones then traded to a team with a top 5 PF in the league who plays almost 40 minutes a game and refuses to play 5 for any meaningful amount of time. I can't blame TRob for not outplaying a franchise player in his second season, and now they are in a playoff race and are not in the develop players business. He more than worth a good look, check him out first hand for 30+ games and resign him at a decent level because his been dicked around for the first few years of his career. Call me crazy but if TRob was treated like Sully we would have a radically different view of him IMO.


Maybe Bass for him at the deadline. Portland has some injury issues in the frontcourt right now. I think Freeland is down. A stable, solid vet like Bass that can defend both forward spots and stick the jumper would be great for them.
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Post#1678 » by Slartibartfast » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:33 pm

underneathtoDJ wrote:
Zaschrona wrote:That's why I think Ainge did a great job today - he now has around 40 days to find a deal to absorb some assets right into that Rondo TPE. We need to use that TPE now to not let it expire when will have tons of cap space in summer. Wright TPE will help us with deals a lot as well.


Any ideas on who they'd be targeting with the Rondo TPE?

The only guys I can think of so far that would fit into the $12.9M TPE that 1. their team would be willing to give up and 2. is worth it for the C's to add at their salary would be:

MIL- Larry Sanders (3yrs/$11M per left after this season)
CHA- Lance Stephenson (1 more year at $9M then a team option for another $9.4M after this season)
MIN- Nikola Pekovic (they have no reason to move him, but perhaps Danny could entice MIN with a number of draft picks). I'm realize I'm stretching here. Maybe the same with Kevin Martin, although I'm not sure I want to use the TPE on him.

I'm not seeing a whole lot of options if he's going to use the TPE before the offseason.



I think the Rondo TPE makes the most sense to absorb a hefty expiring salary from a team trying to save money. NYK with Bargnani, BK with KG and OKC with Perk make the most sense.

I think Brooklyn makes the most sense, because they stand to save so much and because KG would have real value to just about any playoff team in the league.
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Post#1679 » by bceltic55 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:32 pm

For next season would like to see either D. Favors or G. Monroe at PF. Draft a center and use the rest of this season finding out if Young is a sg or sf.
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Post#1680 » by Higgs Boston » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:35 pm

bceltic55 wrote:For next season would like to see either D. Favors or G. Monroe at PF. Draft a center and use the rest of this season finding out if Young is a sg or sf.


Favors and monroe already are centers.

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