Around the NBA Thread 2016-17

mbsnmisc · Post #1661 » by **mbsnmisc** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:47 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:$20 says that Phil Jackson didn't realize that Derrick Rose had a pending civil suit for sexual assault before trading for him.

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And I'll bet you double or nothing that Derrick Rose doesn't actually know what "consent" means.

There is no way I take that bet. I really hope he goes back to the Lakers and works his "magic".

FlatearthZorro · Post #1662 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:48 pm

Btw, had no idea where to write it, but DAMN Garoppolo is good.. Brady is Brady, but he's 40 years old, Jimmy is 25. I know it's been 2 games, but Jummy G definitely has ridiculous potential. No idea how the Pats handle this if Garoppolo continues playing this way.

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #1663 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:03 pm

Giannis Anetokounmpo just signed a 4 year, $100 million extension.

Post #1664 » by **165bows** » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:09 pm

Bucks spending $80M+ the next 2 seasons on 3 front court guys that aren't starter quality (Henson, Plumlee, Monroe).

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #1665 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:04 pm

Rudy Gay wants out and has told the Kings that he plans on opting out. Interesting. Let's hope the Clippers get off to a cold start so we can revisit that 3 way deal with Gay going to the Clips, us sending expirings and picks to the Kings, and the Celtics getting Blake.

ConstableGeneva · Post #1666 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:42 am

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I know it's time, but still hard to hear/see.

Green89 · Post #1667 » by **Green89** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:06 pm

Khris Middleton out for 6 months with a torn hamstring. :eek2:

2Mas · Post #1668 » by **2Mas** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:33 pm

Green89 wrote:Khris Middleton out for 6 months with a torn hamstring.

That's brutal. & I gotta happen at the end of Sept. If I was Kidd I woulda rolled out a Delly-Middleton-Greek-Jarbari-henson starting group. IDK what they do now. Maybe go after Kevin Martin?

They prob should just start Vaughn at the 2. I don't know much about his defense, but he gets a decent amount of steals.

Delly(28) - Ennis(16)
Vaughn(22) - MCW(30)
Greek(36)
Parker(34) - Mirza(24)
Henson(22) - Monroe(28)

They have a weird team. Idk if they make the playoffs now. Seems like their offense is meh. & Their defense was terrible last year. Don't make a good combo.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1669 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:27 am

Milwaukee just got Beasley for Tyler Ennis. I know we all hate him now, but he can score, he did a turn in China, I think, to mature, and he flew under the radar last spring for the Rockets playing some seriously decent basketball and shooting a good percentage. He may be a guy like Josh Smith who only "gets it" intermittently, or when on a short leash, but it's an interesting pickup for Milwaukee.

Here's a fun question, looking at their roster and ours- would anyone trade IT for Jabari? Bradley for Jabari?

Kolkmania · Post #1670 » by **Kolkmania** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:14 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Milwaukee just got Beasley for Tyler Ennis. I know we all hate him now, but he can score, he did a turn in China, I think, to mature, and he flew under the radar last spring for the Rockets playing some seriously decent basketball and shooting a good percentage. He may be a guy like Josh Smith who only "gets it" intermittently, or when on a short leash, but it's an interesting pickup for Milwaukee.

Here's a fun question, looking at their roster and ours- would anyone trade IT for Jabari? Bradley for Jabari?

I think it would be a very bad statement to trade Isaiah Thomas at this point. In my opinion he's the face of the franchise with Jae Crowder and Smart with their grittiness. That attitude should continue to flow through the blood of this team.

Huge blow for Milwaukee, this will cost them a spot in the play offs. Teletovic, Dellavedova and Middleton were the only consistent "shooters" they had.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1671 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:21 am

Kolkmania wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Milwaukee just got Beasley for Tyler Ennis. I know we all hate him now, but he can score, he did a turn in China, I think, to mature, and he flew under the radar last spring for the Rockets playing some seriously decent basketball and shooting a good percentage. He may be a guy like Josh Smith who only "gets it" intermittently, or when on a short leash, but it's an interesting pickup for Milwaukee.

Here's a fun question, looking at their roster and ours- would anyone trade IT for Jabari? Bradley for Jabari?

I think it would be a very bad statement to trade Isaiah Thomas at this point. In my opinion he's the face of the franchise with Jae Crowder and Smart with their grittiness. That attitude should continue to flow through the blood of this team.

Huge blow for Milwaukee, this will cost them a spot in the play offs. Teletovic, Dellavedova and Middleton were the only consistent "shooters" they had.

Eh, one of these days Giannis, Jabari or Monroe is going to get their head above water as a perimeter or midrange shooter. Still holding out hope Monroe becomes a pick and pop threat, I'd sign him in that case.

Beasley could help them a lot. Their spacing is still a major problem, but even losing Middleton, Mirza and Dvd could be a little going a long way. (Thinking about when we added Delk and Rodney Rogers...) Giannis and Jabari are a ton of talent.

Don't know what else they can do this season- Monroe, Henson, Plumlee, MCW could all get dealt, but they're stuck waiting for a lucky trade to fall into their laps. Monroe for Tyreke Evans, who can kind of shoot now, and let Henson and Plumlee get some trade value back playing the 5? Henson for an overpaid shooting guard, MCW for a young prospect like Mclemore? Hard to write them off in September.

Marvel · Post #1672 » by **Marvel** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:19 am

Bosh's career done man...he gone.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1673 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:43 am

Bosh in Toronto was awesome, he got completely sidelined in Miami, and was selfless about it. Now that he has a chance to shine again, his career's over. Really unfortunate, he's a great player. And sad for Miami, Alonzo Mourning's career ended prematurely for health reasons, too.

jmr07019 · Post #1674 » by **jmr07019** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:53 pm

Looking at Jabari's stats he's a good scorer but not a good 3 point shooter and a good rebounder for a SF but a poor rebounder for a PF. Can he defend either position well? 2 more years under contract before he is a RFA and somebody is going to throw big money at him (basically same contract situation as Avery but Jabari is RFA).

Bradley to Jabari makes some sense. Bucks get shooting they desperately need and an infusion of defense. We get the player with a higher upside but assuming we start Smart and Jabari instead of Bradley and Amir the team is probably a bit worse.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1675 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:56 pm

jmr07019 wrote:Looking at Jabari's stats he's a good scorer but not a good 3 point shooter and a good rebounder for a SF but a poor rebounder for a PF. Can he defend either position well? 2 more years under contract before he is a RFA and somebody is going to throw big money at him (basically same contract situation as Avery but Jabari is RFA).

Bradley to Jabari makes some sense. Bucks get shooting they desperately need and an infusion of defense. We get the player with a higher upside but assuming we start Smart and Jabari instead of Bradley and Amir the team is probably a bit worse.

He's not a great defender or rebounder, could improve, but he's a scorer. Not an athletic one, but a scorer. Milwaukee fans, at least, think he's a future all-star. Only 21, Ainge has tried to trade for him.

I don't think he's on the market, and there'd have to be other reasons for Milwaukee to trade him, other parts of a deal.

ConstableGeneva · Post #1676 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:35 pm

LOL Stephen Jackson calling out D'Angelo Russell

Curmudgeon · Post #1677 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:16 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:Looking at Jabari's stats he's a good scorer but not a good 3 point shooter and a good rebounder for a SF but a poor rebounder for a PF. Can he defend either position well? 2 more years under contract before he is a RFA and somebody is going to throw big money at him (basically same contract situation as Avery but Jabari is RFA).

Bradley to Jabari makes some sense. Bucks get shooting they desperately need and an infusion of defense. We get the player with a higher upside but assuming we start Smart and Jabari instead of Bradley and Amir the team is probably a bit worse.

He's not a great defender or rebounder, could improve, but he's a scorer. Not an athletic one, but a scorer. Milwaukee fans, at least, think he's a future all-star. Only 21, Ainge has tried to trade for him.

I don't think he's on the market, and there'd have to be other reasons for Milwaukee to trade him, other parts of a deal.

I'm sure he's not on the market now that Middleton is injured.

ConstableGeneva · Post #1678 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:52 pm

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jmr07019 · Post #1679 » by **jmr07019** » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:38 pm

Who knows what happened between Rose, that girl and Rose's boys. Rose says it was consensual the girl says it was not.

I do find it very strange that you would let your boys bang the girl if you had been **** her for 20 months but Rose was apparently gonna dump her because she didn't want to have a 3 some. But If she was willing to have sex with 2 of Roses friends why wouldn't she be into having a 3 some? Hmmm.

Not sure if she has enough evidence to prove rape.

jmr07019 · Post #1680 » by **jmr07019** » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:44 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:Looking at Jabari's stats he's a good scorer but not a good 3 point shooter and a good rebounder for a SF but a poor rebounder for a PF. Can he defend either position well? 2 more years under contract before he is a RFA and somebody is going to throw big money at him (basically same contract situation as Avery but Jabari is RFA).

Bradley to Jabari makes some sense. Bucks get shooting they desperately need and an infusion of defense. We get the player with a higher upside but assuming we start Smart and Jabari instead of Bradley and Amir the team is probably a bit worse.

He's not a great defender or rebounder, could improve, but he's a scorer. Not an athletic one, but a scorer. Milwaukee fans, at least, think he's a future all-star. Only 21, Ainge has tried to trade for him.

I don't think he's on the market, and there'd have to be other reasons for Milwaukee to trade him, other parts of a deal.

The potential is definitely there. Is he going to put in enough work to become a perennial all star? I don't know. If Ainge and company don't want to pay all 3 of Smart, IT and Bradley moving one of the for a front court player makes a ton of sense. Might make more sense to revisit at the draft next year when we know if we are drafting another guard or one of Jackson, Tatum, Giles.