What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling?

[playa-hater]

I still keep wondering if this Tatum ascension changes the Beal calculus?

good question, but here is another angle. What about how Brown plays in the playoffs??? Maybe we/Boston needs to see how Brown performs as a true 2nd option. and knowing that may or may not enhance Beal's situation more.

Tatum will need a strong secondary title level scorer.

[Feed Your Head]

I still keep wondering if this Tatum ascension changes the Beal calculus?

good question, but here is another angle. What about how Brown plays in the playoffs??? Maybe we/Boston needs to see how Brown performs a a true 2nd option. and knowing that may or may not enhance Beal's situation more.

Tatum will need a strong secondary title level scorer.

I think Tatum has answered the question of “can he be the guy on a title team?”, Jaylen is much more of a wildcard for that second spot. But like zoya said in the VC thread, there are some real signs that Jaylen is adjusting his game to be a better fit.

You have one of the 5 best gravity guys in the league, use it lol. And to Jaylen’s credit, he’s been getting better with this. The playoffs are going to be pretty interesting, can see them both balling out in their respective roles.

[Parliament10]

I still keep wondering if this Tatum ascension changes the Beal calculus?

good question, but here is another angle. What about how Brown plays in the playoffs??? Maybe we/Boston needs to see how Brown performs a a true 2nd option. and knowing that may or may not enhance Beal's situation more.

Tatum will need a strong secondary title level scorer.

I think Tatum has answered the question of “can he be the guy on a title team?”, Jaylen is much more of a wildcard for that second spot. But like zoya said in the VC thread, there are some real signs that Jaylen is adjusting his game to be a better fit.

You have one of the 5 best gravity guys in the league, use it lol. And to Jaylen’s credit, he’s been getting better with this. The playoffs are going to be pretty interesting, can see them both balling out in their respective roles.

Agreed.
Jayson Tatum is definitely an Alpha Dog. I mean, he beat Kevin Durant & Kyrie Irving, at the same time.
Tatum scored 54. While Durant & Kyrie scored 56. Combined.

Jaylen Brown, can be a good #2 Option. He doesn't have to be spectacular. Just Good.
More important, is the whole team Atmosphere and Camaraderie.

This team works well together. As Is. -- Jays, Williams Bro's, Smart, Horford, White, etc.
Bringing in somebody new, is just going to be confusing.

IMO, Stay-the-Course, and Stick with who/what we've got.

[Shak_Celts]

I still keep wondering if this Tatum ascension changes the Beal calculus?

good question, but here is another angle. What about how Brown plays in the playoffs??? Maybe we/Boston needs to see how Brown performs a a true 2nd option. and knowing that may or may not enhance Beal's situation more.

Tatum will need a strong secondary title level scorer.

I think Tatum has answered the question of “can he be the guy on a title team?”, Jaylen is much more of a wildcard for that second spot. But like zoya said in the VC thread, there are some real signs that Jaylen is adjusting his game to be a better fit.

You have one of the 5 best gravity guys in the league, use it lol. And to Jaylen’s credit, he’s been getting better with this. The playoffs are going to be pretty interesting, can see them both balling out in their respective roles.

At 25 and younger, I would have said send me to the pelicans or somewhere (not the Kings), you only have a few years to maximize your earnings. There is no doubt in my mind, JB would make max money on another team. (forget whether you think he deserves max, it's how the NBA works)

Fans love winning, players too to some extent, but my 10 good years of basketball would be to earn that check! nah I wouldn't like playing with Tatum unless I was pritch nem level, then I'd pray for it.

28 and over, hell yeah, but not younger. No spotlight and less money than another place? I'd pass. IIRC that's why Jackson didn't want us to pick him, he didn't want to be stuck behind good players. Didn't turn out well for him (haha), but I don't blame him.

No matter how good or not JB is, it can't be easy. Hell, Kobe wanted to be without Shaq fairly early. Everyone wants to be the man early in their career.

Now, as a fan, JB better be quiet and do his job, let's get this chip!!

[Shak_Celts]

good question, but here is another angle. What about how Brown plays in the playoffs??? Maybe we/Boston needs to see how Brown performs a a true 2nd option. and knowing that may or may not enhance Beal's situation more.

Tatum will need a strong secondary title level scorer.

I think Tatum has answered the question of “can he be the guy on a title team?”, Jaylen is much more of a wildcard for that second spot. But like zoya said in the VC thread, there are some real signs that Jaylen is adjusting his game to be a better fit.

You have one of the 5 best gravity guys in the league, use it lol. And to Jaylen’s credit, he’s been getting better with this. The playoffs are going to be pretty interesting, can see them both balling out in their respective roles.

Agreed.
Jayson Tatum is definitely an Alpha Dog. I mean, he beat Kevin Durant & Kyrie Irving, at the same time.
Tatum scored 54. While Durant & Kyrie scored 56. Combined.

Jaylen Brown, can be a good #2 Option. He doesn't have to be spectacular. Just Good.
More important, is the whole team Atmosphere and Camaraderie.

This team works well together. As Is. -- Jays, Williams Bro's, Smart, Horford, White, etc.
Bringing in somebody new, is just going to be confusing.

IMO, Stay-the-Course, and Stick with who/what we've got.

Keep everyone and get Beal? Sign me up! I'll be sad about Al, but it is what it is.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Tatum no longer on this list (current assist conversion rate is 48.84%). Teammates converting more of his potential assists recently? Could be he's passing more on time, on target. Could also be spacing is better and passes are leading to more open shots? More cutting so assists closer to the rim?

In any case, it's noticeable team as a whole has moved the ball better past few weeks leading to better offense.

[BostonCouchGM]

I still keep wondering if this Tatum ascension changes the Beal calculus?

good question, but here is another angle. What about how Brown plays in the playoffs??? Maybe we/Boston needs to see how Brown performs a a true 2nd option. and knowing that may or may not enhance Beal's situation more.

Tatum will need a strong secondary title level scorer.

I think Tatum has answered the question of “can he be the guy on a title team?”, Jaylen is much more of a wildcard for that second spot. But like zoya said in the VC thread, there are some real signs that Jaylen is adjusting his game to be a better fit.

You have one of the 5 best gravity guys in the league, use it lol. And to Jaylen’s credit, he’s been getting better with this. The playoffs are going to be pretty interesting, can see them both balling out in their respective roles.

love Tatum but based on what? He's not only NOT been the guy on a title team he hasn't led us to even the Finals. We surmise he can be but we're largely basing it off of this recent two month stretch playing tanking teams or teams missing key starters which is definitely skewing numbers for both him and our team. I know it's not popular to say and "trolling" according to some but it's facts. Hopefully he does lead us to a title and proves it, like Kawhi, Giannis, Lebron, AD, Curry and KD have in recent years. Until then, we can only guess. As far as Jaylen being a true #2, that hasn't been proven either. The playoffs will answer a lot of questions about these two and our coach. The Eastern Conference is loaded. If we beat these teams, provided they're healthy, we'll have arrived and erased any doubts. Not until then.

[Feed Your Head]

good question, but here is another angle. What about how Brown plays in the playoffs??? Maybe we/Boston needs to see how Brown performs a a true 2nd option. and knowing that may or may not enhance Beal's situation more.

Tatum will need a strong secondary title level scorer.

I think Tatum has answered the question of “can he be the guy on a title team?”, Jaylen is much more of a wildcard for that second spot. But like zoya said in the VC thread, there are some real signs that Jaylen is adjusting his game to be a better fit.

You have one of the 5 best gravity guys in the league, use it lol. And to Jaylen’s credit, he’s been getting better with this. The playoffs are going to be pretty interesting, can see them both balling out in their respective roles.

love Tatum but based on what? He's not only NOT been the guy on a title team he hasn't led us to even the Finals. We surmise he can be but we're largely basing it off of this recent two month stretch playing tanking teams or teams missing key starters which is definitely skewing numbers for both him and our team. I know it's not popular to say and "trolling" according to some but it's facts. Hopefully he does lead us to a title and proves it, like Kawhi, Giannis, Lebron, AD, Curry and KD have in recent years. Until then, we can only guess. As far as Jaylen being a true #2, that hasn't been proven either. The playoffs will answer a lot of questions about these two and our coach. The Eastern Conference is loaded. If we beat these teams, provided they're healthy, we'll have arrived and erased any doubts. Not until then.

Your first point is absolutely correct, I should
have worded it differently. I think he’s shown that he seems to be heading towards that level of player.

I said I don’t think Jaylen has shown it lol, and that it’s much more of a question mark.

[themoneyteam2]

I think he's slipped into the top 10 due to so many being out due to injuries. Will a top 10 player be happy getting bounced before reaching the Finals yet again without asking to be moved? That's the great fear and why so much is riding on these playoffs imho.

He’s only 24 yrs old so he probably won’t ask to be moved if they don’t make the finals this year with a nucleus that they’re in the middle of building. Troll harder next time though!

There she is!!! Do you get notifications when I post lmao? When we get bounced you’ll start hearing chatter about him potentially wanting out. If we don’t make the Finals in the next two seasons he will demand out. These guys don’t want to waste prime years in a small market like Boston if they’re not competing for championships.

Because I respond to your asinine troll job it means I put notifications on for your posts? Sorry to call you out when you make laughable takes. And yes, Boston is such a small market team how could I forget!

[LewisnotMiller]

good question, but here is another angle. What about how Brown plays in the playoffs??? Maybe we/Boston needs to see how Brown performs a a true 2nd option. and knowing that may or may not enhance Beal's situation more.

Tatum will need a strong secondary title level scorer.

I think Tatum has answered the question of “can he be the guy on a title team?”, Jaylen is much more of a wildcard for that second spot. But like zoya said in the VC thread, there are some real signs that Jaylen is adjusting his game to be a better fit.

You have one of the 5 best gravity guys in the league, use it lol. And to Jaylen’s credit, he’s been getting better with this. The playoffs are going to be pretty interesting, can see them both balling out in their respective roles.

Agreed.
Jayson Tatum is definitely an Alpha Dog. I mean, he beat Kevin Durant & Kyrie Irving, at the same time.
Tatum scored 54. While Durant & Kyrie scored 56. Combined.

Jaylen Brown, can be a good #2 Option. He doesn't have to be spectacular. Just Good.
More important, is the whole team Atmosphere and Camaraderie.

This team works well together. As Is. -- Jays, Williams Bro's, Smart, Horford, White, etc.
Bringing in somebody new, is just going to be confusing.

IMO, Stay-the-Course, and Stick with who/what we've got.

Worth remembering that our coach likes a switchy defence that might be as good as it's weakest link in the playoffs. Brown works, Beal is more of a question.

I get that the offence is more important, but still...

[1st banana]

Last 30 games the Celtics are a +17 net rating with Tatum in the game and a +0 when he sits.

[steefP2]

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Tatum no longer on this list (current assist conversion rate is 48.84%). Teammates converting more of his potential assists recently? Could be he's passing more on time, on target. Could also be spacing is better and passes are leading to more open shots? More cutting so assists closer to the rim?

In any case, it's noticeable team as a whole has moved the ball better past few weeks leading to better offense.

Horford shooting 40% from deep in last 20 and Smart around 37 in that timespan, helps a ton probably. Also more passes going to grant instead of shroder etc

[steefP2]

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What an absolute monster

[Feed Your Head]

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What an absolute monster

I hate the phrase, but damn his bag is crazy. How do you stop that when he’s feeling himself?

[sam_I_am]

The way the team is playing has allowed Tatum to be more of a passer and he is much better at moving the ball than I expected and this has made it easier for him to make faster decisions when attacking the rim and in turn lowered the difficulty level of his shots. However, the most important reason for this turn around is simply the progression Tatum has made as a scorer. If you aren’t such an elite threat to score drawing the full attention of the defense, it isn’t that easy to move the ball and “play the right way”.

Tatum started his career in the Grant Williams type role as a spot up 3 point shooter. When KI and GH went down he became a go to scorer on the back of his mid-range fade away shot. In the following seasons he added the Harden side step 3 and tried to drive more to the basket. The past two seasons his drives have been above average but often ended with a strip or a block followed by his hands in the air and a whiny stare at the refs. Maybe if he had elite passing skills like Bird, Lebron or Luka he might have been able to perform at a top 5 player level but as a pure scorer he wasn’t dominant enough. What has really changed is that he is now has developed his skills so that he is a fierce finisher at the rim and his 3 point shot is clicking again. It is his evolution as an elite scorer at every level that has opened up the entire floor and thankfully he has good teammates and coaching to bring out his best of his abilities. It’s really exciting right now because as good as he has been for 4 1/2 years….we are just seeing the beginning of his surge to a higher level of play.

[playa-hater]

I think Tatum has answered the question of “can he be the guy on a title team?”, Jaylen is much more of a wildcard for that second spot. But like zoya said in the VC thread, there are some real signs that Jaylen is adjusting his game to be a better fit.

You have one of the 5 best gravity guys in the league, use it lol. And to Jaylen’s credit, he’s been getting better with this. The playoffs are going to be pretty interesting, can see them both balling out in their respective roles.

Agreed.
Jayson Tatum is definitely an Alpha Dog. I mean, he beat Kevin Durant & Kyrie Irving, at the same time.
Tatum scored 54. While Durant & Kyrie scored 56. Combined.

Jaylen Brown, can be a good #2 Option. He doesn't have to be spectacular. Just Good.
More important, is the whole team Atmosphere and Camaraderie.

This team works well together. As Is. -- Jays, Williams Bro's, Smart, Horford, White, etc.
Bringing in somebody new, is just going to be confusing.

IMO, Stay-the-Course, and Stick with who/what we've got.

Worth remembering that our coach likes a switchy defence that might be as good as it's weakest link in the playoffs. Brown works, Beal is more of a question.

I get that the offence is more important, but still...

A good point. But, while Beal is not considered a good defender, I don't think he is a bad one either. Looking at Miami, they have a good defense and no way in hell are Tyler Herro and Duncan Robinson good defenders. But they make it work. I believe It would be the same for Beal IMO..

[LuckyLeprechaun]

I think he's slipped into the top 10 due to so many being out due to injuries. Will a top 10 player be happy getting bounced before reaching the Finals yet again without asking to be moved? That's the great fear and why so much is riding on these playoffs imho.

He’s only 24 yrs old so he probably won’t ask to be moved if they don’t make the finals this year with a nucleus that they’re in the middle of building. Troll harder next time though!

There she is!!! Do you get notifications when I post lmao? When we get bounced you’ll start hearing chatter about him potentially wanting out. If we don’t make the Finals in the next two seasons he will demand out. These guys don’t want to waste prime years in a small market like Boston if they’re not competing for championships.

Giannis stayed in a small market and was rewarded with a championship. Beal and Dame have chosen to waste their entire primes staying with the teams that drafted them. Not everyone demands a trade when they're 25.

[zoyathedestroya]

That's my bad for introducing that Twitter account on RGM. His bit is to post fake quotes. You won't find MJ saying that anywhere haha.

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[Feed Your Head]

That's my bad for introducing that Twitter account on RGM. His bit is to post fake quotes. You won't find MJ saying that anywhere haha.

I deleted it lol.

[Tatumfor2]

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