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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1681 » by playa-hater » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:30 pm

Theocy wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Tre Jones
Denis smith jr
Tre mann
Moon
Hyland
A. Holiday
Mcbride
Hayes
Lee
And of course coby white.

I think all can be had for less than you would think there value is.



dont know much about most of these guys but Dennis Smith was a 15ppg in his rookie year. He is now 24 and being bounced around horrible teams. WTF happened to him? When i saw him play with Dallas i thought he was the next Westbrook stats wise


Low BB IQ and a not efficient scoring mentality as a PG Is my guess.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1682 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:32 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:Smart and Horford to Houston for John Wall, Usman Garuba, first round pick swap rights in 2022 and Houston's unprotected first in 2023.

Now there's a Smart deal I would do in a heartbeat.


ZERO percent chance the rebuilding Rockets trade draft picks. Literally no chance whatsoever. And for Smart/Horford? Those guys make zero sense in Houston/.


Yes, makes no sense for them except for the $15M is savings next year.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1683 » by playa-hater » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:33 pm

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Nesmith shot well during a brief stretch in college before his team played any decent competition. And then he got hurt. We have no evidence as a pro that he is even an average shooter. It’s all been propaganda. Even Young looked more promising as a shooter and he was a complete bust. He has been pretty awful overall. I say this knowing he just had one of his best games as a pro. I just don’t see him doing anything before his contract is up.


No evidence??? His rookie year?? Meanwhile you're the type who cut Kris Middleton..when he was on Detroit..he shot 26%..what a scrub..


I’m not the type to cut Kris Middleton because I’m just a fan so I can’t cut anybody. For the record, Middleton wasn’t cut…..he was traded for a 20 ppg starting PG former lottery pick with lots of upside who never really reached his full potential. I can’t do that with Nesmith either….even if I was a real GM….. if that trade was possible Brad would do it in a nanosecond.


meant to say they gave up on KM, after only a year, probably in large part due to his 26% shooting.

the quality of a player's opportunities matter far more than many realize.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1684 » by playa-hater » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:34 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Theocy wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Tre Jones
Denis smith jr
Tre mann
Moon
Hyland
A. Holiday
Mcbride
Hayes
Lee
And of course coby white.

I think all can be had for less than you would think there value is.



dont know much about most of these guys but Dennis Smith was a 15ppg in his rookie year. He is now 24 and being bounced around horrible teams. WTF happened to him? When i saw him play with Dallas i thought he was the next Westbrook stats wise



Carlisle ruined him.


so you are saying a coach can ruin a player?? :o :-? :(
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1685 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:37 pm

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Wonder if teams won't trade for him now
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1686 » by playa-hater » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:39 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:So we know they want a 4/4.5 who can shoot a little (Jalen Smith is only 28 percent but it’s something) and comes cheap.. Smith, Green, anyone else meet that description? Muscala, I guess, sucks but is shooting .441 from three.. Olynyk, Covington, Nance, Kyle Anderson are a step up in salary - tax issues if we weren’t trading Al.


Nnaji
McDaniels
Boucher
Robinson
DFS
PJ Washington


like the bold a lot. wondering what it would take to get them
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1687 » by GoGreen » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:41 pm

I hope we keep Nesmith. To early to give up on him. He wants it, just needs some time imo. Romeo otoh...
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1688 » by playa-hater » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:44 pm

The Comedian wrote:
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this will lead to a "we like our guys" ending.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1689 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:45 pm

playa-hater wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
Theocy wrote:

dont know much about most of these guys but Dennis Smith was a 15ppg in his rookie year. He is now 24 and being bounced around horrible teams. WTF happened to him? When i saw him play with Dallas i thought he was the next Westbrook stats wise



Carlisle ruined him.


so you are saying a coach can ruin a player?? :o :-? :(



Not Ime though. He has a hot wife and he workeed hard for everything.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1690 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:46 pm

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Wonder if teams won't trade for him now

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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1691 » by playa-hater » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:47 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:

Carlisle ruined him.


so you are saying a coach can ruin a player?? :o :-? :(



Not Ime though. He has a hot wife and he workeed hard for everything.


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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1692 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:47 pm

playa-hater wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:So we know they want a 4/4.5 who can shoot a little (Jalen Smith is only 28 percent but it’s something) and comes cheap.. Smith, Green, anyone else meet that description? Muscala, I guess, sucks but is shooting .441 from three.. Olynyk, Covington, Nance, Kyle Anderson are a step up in salary - tax issues if we weren’t trading Al.


Nnaji
McDaniels
Boucher
Robinson
DFS
PJ Washington


like the bold a lot. wondering what it would take to get them



Nnaji and BolBol for SChroder?
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1693 » by greenroom31 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:47 pm

The Comedian wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20


Source is Woj -- here are the relevant details from the article:

It appears Boston is open for business as they investigate potential tweaks to the roster. Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN.com detailed some of the various players that Boston is gauging the trade value on in the marketplace in an appearance on NBA Today.

“Marcus Smart, some of the young players on the roster, the second or third year guards and forwards, I think they are seeing what the value for those players is out there, Josh Richardson, Dennis Schroder. I think those are all players available in the marketplace,” Wojnarowski said. “They still want to find another playmaker, wing player to complement the two All-Star forwards.”

The veterans Boston has all carry varying levels of value. Marcus Smart is not eligible to be dealt until January 25th after signing a four-year extension in September but that long-term contract would make him an appealing defensive weapon for any contender in the coming years with no flight risk involved. Dennis Schroder has far less value on an expiring contract but he’s put up very productive numbers when given major minutes and a balanced supporting cast around him that can shoot, averaging 18 points per game in his starts. The Smart/Schroder pairing has some glaring weaknesses offensively so it could make sense for Boston to opt for one or the other moving forward.

Elsewhere, Richardson is in the midst of a nice bounce-back season, shooting 41.1 percent from 3-point range, his best mark since 2015. The fit has been solid with Tatum and Brown as he has started to work his way into some closing lineups, however, he may carry solid trade value for Boston at the moment due to his wing play and manageable contract ($12 million per year through next season). If he’s not a part of the long-term plan in Boston, maximizing his value now could be a savvy play for Stevens.

The other wildcard involved here is Boston’s recent draft picks that are second and third-year players. (Aaron Nesmith, Romeo Langford, Payton Pritchard, Grant Williams). Williams has established himself in that group as the most reliable contributor for the time being but the clock is ticking on which players will get a chance with Boston to develop into consistent rotation players. Limited opportunities have made it tough to gauge for some in that group and if Ime Udoka isn’t willing to play all of them regularly, moving on from one or two in a trade while these guys still hold any value could help the team better consolidate the roster. On the other hand, outside of Williams, Boston would potentially be selling quite low on any of these prospects if they were moved in the next month.

Either way, there’s no clear path for Boston beyond keeping their core stars and emerging young center. Stevens will have to juggle a lot in his first trade deadline in charge as he evaluates what the next step is for the franchise stuck in the middle for now.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1694 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:47 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Wonder if teams won't trade for him now

Read on Twitter


Called it


Might be a chance to buy low now.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1695 » by playa-hater » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:48 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
Nnaji
McDaniels
Boucher
Robinson
DFS
PJ Washington


like the bold a lot. wondering what it would take to get them



Nnaji and BolBol for SChroder?


i take either
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1696 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:49 pm

greenroom31 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20


Source is Woj -- here are the relevant details from the article:

It appears Boston is open for business as they investigate potential tweaks to the roster. Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN.com detailed some of the various players that Boston is gauging the trade value on in the marketplace in an appearance on NBA Today.

“Marcus Smart, some of the young players on the roster, the second or third year guards and forwards, I think they are seeing what the value for those players is out there, Josh Richardson, Dennis Schroder. I think those are all players available in the marketplace,” Wojnarowski said. “They still want to find another playmaker, wing player to complement the two All-Star forwards.”

The veterans Boston has all carry varying levels of value. Marcus Smart is not eligible to be dealt until January 25th after signing a four-year extension in September but that long-term contract would make him an appealing defensive weapon for any contender in the coming years with no flight risk involved. Dennis Schroder has far less value on an expiring contract but he’s put up very productive numbers when given major minutes and a balanced supporting cast around him that can shoot, averaging 18 points per game in his starts. The Smart/Schroder pairing has some glaring weaknesses offensively so it could make sense for Boston to opt for one or the other moving forward.

Elsewhere, Richardson is in the midst of a nice bounce-back season, shooting 41.1 percent from 3-point range, his best mark since 2015. The fit has been solid with Tatum and Brown as he has started to work his way into some closing lineups, however, he may carry solid trade value for Boston at the moment due to his wing play and manageable contract ($12 million per year through next season). If he’s not a part of the long-term plan in Boston, maximizing his value now could be a savvy play for Stevens.

The other wildcard involved here is Boston’s recent draft picks that are second and third-year players. (Aaron Nesmith, Romeo Langford, Payton Pritchard, Grant Williams). Williams has established himself in that group as the most reliable contributor for the time being but the clock is ticking on which players will get a chance with Boston to develop into consistent rotation players. Limited opportunities have made it tough to gauge for some in that group and if Ime Udoka isn’t willing to play all of them regularly, moving on from one or two in a trade while these guys still hold any value could help the team better consolidate the roster. On the other hand, outside of Williams, Boston would potentially be selling quite low on any of these prospects if they were moved in the next month.

Either way, there’s no clear path for Boston beyond keeping their core stars and emerging young center. Stevens will have to juggle a lot in his first trade deadline in charge as he evaluates what the next step is for the franchise stuck in the middle for now.


Think he forgot to mention Horford.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1697 » by sully00 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:52 pm

playa-hater wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
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this will lead to a "we like our guys" ending.


Not surprisingly those are the salary pieces that it would take to make a trade for Jerami Grant.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1698 » by playa-hater » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:54 pm

sully00 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Read on Twitter
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this will lead to a "we like our guys" ending.


Not surprisingly those are the salary pieces that it would take to make a trade for Jerami Grant.


interesting.. a few thoughts. I like J Grant, quite a bit. But why would Detroit take 2 veterans for one veteran??
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1699 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:55 pm

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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#1700 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:56 pm

playa-hater wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Read on Twitter
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this will lead to a "we like our guys" ending.

Brad Stevens is trying to win a poker hand with a pair of 8's. All the players mentioned don't have a ton of value.

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