It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

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Marcus Smart's FG Pct is better than Kemba, 3Pt Pct is better than Kemba, Assists Per Game is better than Kemba and Assist/TO Ratio is better than Kemba. Smart is light years ahead of Kemba on defense.

What is the point of Kemba Walker?

Has Nick Nurse ever centered a box-and-one on Marcus Smart?

If Danny doesn't trade Marcus this offseason, if I'm Marcus' agent, I know I have Danny completely over a barrel with his pants down. Either lose my guy for nothing or give him what he wants. And if I'm Marcus, in my next deal with Boston, I tell Danny and Brad "I want the ball". I want to be the UNQUESTIONED starting ballhandler for this team. And 4/75 is the STARTING place for negotiations.

Which team(s) would you threaten to have Smart sign with if those demands aren't met?

[bucknersrevenge]

Has Nick Nurse ever centered a box-and-one on Marcus Smart?

If Danny doesn't trade Marcus this offseason, if I'm Marcus' agent, I know I have Danny completely over a barrel with his pants down. Either lose my guy for nothing or give him what he wants. And if I'm Marcus, in my next deal with Boston, I tell Danny and Brad "I want the ball". I want to be the UNQUESTIONED starting ballhandler for this team. And 4/75 is the STARTING place for negotiations.

Which team(s) would you threaten to have Smart sign with if those demands aren't met?

That's an excellent question.I haven't yet taken the opportunity to see who will have space the year after this. But I feel comfortable that if Smart becomes a UFA, there will be suitors who will view him as either a foundational culture-builder worth investing in, or maybe the final piece to a championship run.

[BK_2020]

Maybe Charlotte can sign Semi and Theis in the off-season and trade for Smart.

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If Danny doesn't trade Marcus this offseason, if I'm Marcus' agent, I know I have Danny completely over a barrel with his pants down. Either lose my guy for nothing or give him what he wants. And if I'm Marcus, in my next deal with Boston, I tell Danny and Brad "I want the ball". I want to be the UNQUESTIONED starting ballhandler for this team. And 4/75 is the STARTING place for negotiations.

Which team(s) would you threaten to have Smart sign with if those demands aren't met?

That's an excellent question.I haven't yet taken the opportunity to see who will have space the year after this. But I feel comfortable that if Smart becomes a UFA, there will be suitors who will view him as either a foundational culture-builder worth investing in, or maybe the final piece to a championship run.

Perhaps.

But starting PG in a single-PG offense? Now you're greatly limiting the possibilities. In particular, you're ruling out the teams that have Jimmy Butler, LeBron James, Steph Curry, Jrue Holiday, Ben Simmons, James Harden, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Damian Lillard, Gordon Hayward ...

I don't think your idea of a demand for that specific role makes much sense.

[Celts17Pride]

Marcus Smart is probably getting traded this off-season anyway.

More likely Smart staying and Kemba is sent packing. For many, many reasons.

Celtics would be fine with Smart, Pritchard, Madar at point guard. Heck how can it be worse than Kemba?

[BK_2020]

Marcus Smart is probably getting traded this off-season anyway.

More likely Smart staying and Kemba is sent packing. For many, many reasons.

I don't think either of them stay on the team if there's a taker.

[Ernest]

Smart's not going anywhere.

[BK_2020]

Kemba to the knicks for $50 mil. TPE
Smart to Nuggets for Bol Bol and TPE
TPE - TPE - TPE - Tatum - Bol Bol
Dare you to find a team that can stop us

[Jammer]

Well, I am still in the trade Kemba camp. It's gonna be tough finding a landing spot where he walks in a starter considering the perceived strength of this draft. Find a place he will start, then find a way to get him there.

[JediMasterRevan]

Well, I am still in the trade Kemba camp. It's gonna be tough finding a landing spot where he walks in a starter considering the perceived strength of this draft. Find a place he will start, then find a way to get him there.

Knicks
Clippers
Chicago
Orlando?
Minny
Raptors?
New Orleans
Spurs?
OKC

[bucknersrevenge]

Which team(s) would you threaten to have Smart sign with if those demands aren't met?

That's an excellent question.I haven't yet taken the opportunity to see who will have space the year after this. But I feel comfortable that if Smart becomes a UFA, there will be suitors who will view him as either a foundational culture-builder worth investing in, or maybe the final piece to a championship run.

Perhaps.

But starting PG in a single-PG offense? Now you're greatly limiting the possibilities. In particular, you're ruling out the teams that have Jimmy Butler, LeBron James, Steph Curry, Jrue Holiday, Ben Simmons, James Harden, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Damian Lillard, Gordon Hayward ...

I don't think your idea of a demand for that specific role makes much sense.

No, I mean HERE in Boston, next to the Jay's and Fournier/Romeo, he would ask for that role. In other places I think he might just the money and whatever role. So I'm not limiting the possibilities like you suggest. I'm saying he would assert his value here, with Danny if he got to free agency.

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That's an excellent question.I haven't yet taken the opportunity to see who will have space the year after this. But I feel comfortable that if Smart becomes a UFA, there will be suitors who will view him as either a foundational culture-builder worth investing in, or maybe the final piece to a championship run.

Perhaps.

But starting PG in a single-PG offense? Now you're greatly limiting the possibilities. In particular, you're ruling out the teams that have Jimmy Butler, LeBron James, Steph Curry, Jrue Holiday, Ben Simmons, James Harden, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Damian Lillard, Gordon Hayward ...

I don't think your idea of a demand for that specific role makes much sense.

No, I mean HERE in Boston, next to the Jay's and Fournier/Romeo, he would ask for that role. In other places I think he might just the money and whatever role. So I'm not limiting the possibilities like you suggest. I'm saying he would assert his value here, with Danny if he got to free agency.

Why would he demand a particular role here he wouldn't deserve elsewhere, and then leave unless he gets it?

[BK_2020]

Perhaps.

But starting PG in a single-PG offense? Now you're greatly limiting the possibilities. In particular, you're ruling out the teams that have Jimmy Butler, LeBron James, Steph Curry, Jrue Holiday, Ben Simmons, James Harden, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Damian Lillard, Gordon Hayward ...

I don't think your idea of a demand for that specific role makes much sense.

No, I mean HERE in Boston, next to the Jay's and Fournier/Romeo, he would ask for that role. In other places I think he might just the money and whatever role. So I'm not limiting the possibilities like you suggest. I'm saying he would assert his value here, with Danny if he got to free agency.

Why would he demand a particular role here he wouldn't deserve elsewhere, and then leave unless he gets it?

He's represented by Happy Walters, and 50% of his clientele don't have jobs or are playing in Europe.

[bucknersrevenge]

Perhaps.

But starting PG in a single-PG offense? Now you're greatly limiting the possibilities. In particular, you're ruling out the teams that have Jimmy Butler, LeBron James, Steph Curry, Jrue Holiday, Ben Simmons, James Harden, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Damian Lillard, Gordon Hayward ...

I don't think your idea of a demand for that specific role makes much sense.

No, I mean HERE in Boston, next to the Jay's and Fournier/Romeo, he would ask for that role. In other places I think he might just the money and whatever role. So I'm not limiting the possibilities like you suggest. I'm saying he would assert his value here, with Danny if he got to free agency.

Why would he demand a particular role here he wouldn't deserve elsewhere, and then leave unless he gets it?

Because he has more leverage here in that circumstance than he does elsewhere. What I referred to earlier. If Danny passes up the opportunity to get something now and then let's it go to Free Agency, Danny risks potentially losing him for nothing. Smart has more value to us in a known situation whereas, if the money is right somewhere else, he might be willing to accept a more supportive role.

[Fencer reregistered]

No, I mean HERE in Boston, next to the Jay's and Fournier/Romeo, he would ask for that role. In other places I think he might just the money and whatever role. So I'm not limiting the possibilities like you suggest. I'm saying he would assert his value here, with Danny if he got to free agency.

Why would he demand a particular role here he wouldn't deserve elsewhere, and then leave unless he gets it?

Because he has more leverage here in that circumstance than he does elsewhere. What I referred to earlier. If Danny passes up the opportunity to get something now and then let's it go to Free Agency, Danny risks potentially losing him for nothing. Smart has more value to us in a known situation whereas, if the money is right somewhere else, he might be willing to accept a more supportive role.

So you think he'll pull a Judas Shuttlesworth, and go someplace else for less money and a smaller role?

[bucknersrevenge]

Why would he demand a particular role here he wouldn't deserve elsewhere, and then leave unless he gets it?

Because he has more leverage here in that circumstance than he does elsewhere. What I referred to earlier. If Danny passes up the opportunity to get something now and then let's it go to Free Agency, Danny risks potentially losing him for nothing. Smart has more value to us in a known situation whereas, if the money is right somewhere else, he might be willing to accept a more supportive role.

So you think he'll pull a Judas Shuttlesworth, and go someplace else for less money and a smaller role?

Or perhaps more money than we can offer with a team that highly values the culture building, or final-piece providing that they think he can offer them.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Last time Smart was a FA he didn't get much interest from anyone. Could be because tems knew the Celtics may match any offer but no one threw a dollar amount out there.

Regardless Smart isn't going anywhere. The team loves him and I can see Ainge offering him a 110 or 120m contract.

[Ernest]

What is the most we can give him? To all the smart haters, look that up and then look up a list of guys his age making the same amount.

Maybe we get him for less than the max, but he's worth it. I think the word "max" confuses people though. It's not a Kobe last hurrah 35 mil a season or whatever max.

We do need to move Kemba. Smart will get paid and there is really no doubt now that he can be the starting point guard. He can guard who ever so his size is ok. But we can't have another small guy. PP is fine as a backup but Kemba out there with smart of PP is not going to fly after this year.

We won't get a lot for Kemba but his value is certainly not negative. There will always be bad teams that need to hit the salary floor. Teams will want a good character vet. They will want a guy who is markeable and a name that sounds good to a casual fan.

[bucknersrevenge]

Last time Smart was a FA he didn't get much interest from anyone. Could be because tems knew the Celtics may match any offer but no one threw a dollar amount out there.

Regardless Smart isn't going anywhere. The team loves him and I can see Ainge offering him a 110 or 120m contract.

Whoa...

[grindtime22]

I think we offer him an extension in the range of his max (4/77) this summer. If he declines, then you might look to move him.