Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . .

[snowman]

I think Kabengele is still available. You know how I like him. lol

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I think Kabengele is still available. You know how I like him. lol

He signed with an overseas team a few weeks ago.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/08/mfiondu-kabengele-signs-with-aek-athens.html

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My preferences:

15th roster spot:
1st choice Lamar Stevens
2nd choice Javonte Green

3rd 2-way spot:
1st choice: Garuba
2nd choice: Queta
3rd choice: Foster

If we end up going with a big for that 15th spot, I'm fine with Gabriel or perhaps Biyombo. Maybe they end up bringing Blake back? I'd be cool with that. And then perhaps Funk gets the last 2-way in that scenario, if he plays well in camp..

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Thoughts and prayers for Grant.

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Thoughts and prayers for Grant.

Good luck to GW but man that will be one of the most annoying teams in the league...

...and that's saying something lol.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
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Free agent F Taj Gibson is returning to the Washington Wizards on a one-year, $3.2M contract, Mark Bartelstein of @PrioritySports tells ESPN. At 38, this will be Gibson’s 15th NBA season.

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Dave McMenamin @mcten
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Los Angeles Lakers forward Jared Vanderbilt has agreed to a four-year, $48 million extension a couple of weeks before training camp opens, sources told ESPN. There is a player option on the fourth year. “Vando” was an instrumental piece in LAL’s turnaround last season

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Huh

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Huh

Could be getting ready to do a 2-1 or 3-1 trade.

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Huh

Could be getting ready to do a 2-1 or 3-1 trade.

I think the Wiz are about to do a trade for KPJ and then will cut him

Shamet/Gallo or something like that

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Huh

Could be getting ready to do a 2-1 or 3-1 trade.

I think the Wiz are about to do a trade for KPJ and then will cut him

Shamet/Gallo or something like that

That would make sense.

It really doesn't make that much sense to have both Gallo and Muscala on the same team, imo. Too much overlap in strengths/weaknesses, size, etc.

I haven't heard any rumors of Muscala being traded but I have heard some rumors (recent ones, too) about Gallo potentially being moved to a team looking for shooting.

And Shamet seems kind of like a spare part in washington that doesn't make much sense being there.

Gallo and Shamet can both shoot. Houston needs shooting..and obviously there's rumors of Houston trading KPJ..

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TL/DR let's temper our expectations in terms of anyone else we sign to fill out the roster.

One thing I am thinking about, in terms of signing a big for the last roster spot - is thinking about it from the free agent's point of view. Bigs aren't gonna want to sign here. Think about it. Someone like Gabriel, Biyombo, JaMychal Green or even Garuba or Queta. They could possibly be the 2nd string big in Orlando. They could have a good chance at being the 2nd string big on the Nets.

They could be 2nd string big on the nuggets. I mean, if you can't beat out the corpse of deandre jordan and zeke nnaji for minutes, you must be pretty bad.

They'd be 3rd string big in Chicago - if Vucevic or Drummond goes down, all of a sudden they're getting big minutes.

They'd be 3rd string big with the Clippers. They'd be 3rd string big in Phoenix, with the possibility of of being 2nd string if they beat out Eubanks (who decent but not THAT good). They could be 3rd string big on the hornets, with a chance at being 2nd string if they beat out Nick Richard (and if Mark williams or richard goes down, they get lots of playing time).

Hell, they would probably have a more clear path to minutes on the bucks, lakers or Cavs. Probably the Hawks too.

Any of these guys, if they come to Boston, they know that best case scenario, they're the 4th string big. And they'd probably be 5th string behind Kornet. I mean, some of them like Gabriel and Biyombo could have a good shot to beat out Kornet for minutes. But someone like Queta who has been in the league for 2 seasons and basically has only played g league during those 2 seasons - it's highly unlikely he beats out Kornet for minutes. So Queta would much rather go to one of the teams I listed above.

Which is why I think Foster Jr is a nice option. Those other bigs can be picky and sign with a team like the Nets or Nuggets or whatever where they could probably play more. But a guy like Foster Jr, he went undrafted. Played in the g league last season. Only played in 1...yes, 1 NBA game last season for Philly. He's been a FA for the entire offseason. I can't really find any rumors anywhere that say any teams are interested in him or even worked him out. He's gotta just take whatever contract he can get at this point.

Compare that to Queta for example. He's at least gotten in a few more NBA games, has shown some good flashes in those games. He's only been a FA for a few days now and there's already a bunch of rumors and hype circulating about him going somewhere. And he was a 2nd round pick.

Foster Jr is only 20. I like his upside. He's a big, built like a tank. He shows some shooting potential, some flashes of creating off the bounce. He can finish strong at the rim with some powerful dunks. He's got some moves around the basket, some good footwork. You get him in the gym everyday working with our coaches and learning from Rob, Al and KP - in a winning environment here in Boston. I think he's a guy you could put on a 2-way, get plenty of reps in Maine but you develop him and long term he could be a really solid player.

It's pretty much the same thing with that 15th roster spot, if we decide to try and sign a wing, or a forward. There's gonna be at least 5 or 6 other teams with a more clear path for that FA guy to get wing/forward mins than there is in Boston.

If Brad signs anyone else who is legit, he just has to really sell them on being on a contender. They might not get many mins but at least they will be on the team favored to win it all. Win a ring before you retire. Or, just sign Griffin since he loves it in Boston. Of course, it seems unlikely that will happen since he is probably gonna either retire or sign with a west coast team to be closer to his family..

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Those other bigs can be picky and sign with a team like the Nets or Nuggets or whatever where they could probably play more.

It's mid september and roster spots have pretty much dried up around the league. I really don't think those guys can afford to be that picky.

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[playa-hater]

Interesting. Some last year advocated for Boston to sign D Howard. Me included. But at least a few comebacks were "GS just beat us without a true center" etc...Now Steve Kerr loses with team USA because they couldn't rebound mainly, and GS now goes out to possibly sign DH.

I know there is/was a lockeroom risk. But If the playoffs started today, and either of our 3 Bigs went down between Al, KP and RW (sadly very possible) who would you trust more to play, Dwight Howard or Kornet??

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Man, some of this reporting by Shams and Woj just keeps getting more and more shameless haha.

Calling Dwight "the 2020 Lakers championship center" lol, like c'mon man. 2020 was 3 years ago! He's been playing in china for the past couple yrs. He'll be 38 this season and he was like 9th on the Lakers in minutes during the 2020 NBA finals.

Have some shame haha.

The agents must be like paying these guys to write this stuff.

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Interesting. Some last year advocated for Boston to sign D Howard. Me included. But at least a few comebacks were "GS just beat us without a true center" etc...Now Steve Kerr loses with team USA because they couldn't rebound mainly, and GS now goes out to possibly sign DH.

The keyword in your post is "possibly". The Warriors have not signed Howard. They're simply going to meet with him next week. That's all. No need to get too carried away.

Here's a list of free agents the Warriors have worked out or shown interest in this summer:

Rudy Gay
Juan Toscano-Anderson
Will Barton
Jaylen Nowell
Dwight Howard
Stanley Johnson
Tony Bradley
Michael Carter Williams
Derrick Favors
Dewayne Dedmon
Kent Bazemore
Dion Waiters
Trey Burke
Glen Robinson III
Tony Snell

Not a very exclusive list. So I don't see any reason to draw any major conclusions from this news.

I know there is/was a lockeroom risk. But If the playoffs started today, and either of our 3 Bigs went down between Al, KP and RW (sadly very possible) who would you trust more to play, Dwight Howard or Kornet??

If 1 of our 3 bigs went down and it was the playoffs, we would simply play the other 2 bigs. Most teams don't play 3 bigs in their rotation anyways - especially not in the playoffs where teams trim their rotation down and go with smaller lineups more frequently.

Look at Denver, they won the title with just Jokic as their only big in the rotation and just Jeff Green (a PF, small ball 5 type of guy) off the bench.

There's a reason why Howard was out of the league last season and the only team that would sign him was in China. He'll be 38 this season. If he's getting playoff minutes this season, whatever team he's playing for is in trouble.

[MeanGeraldGreen]

Interesting. Some last year advocated for Boston to sign D Howard. Me included. But at least a few comebacks were "GS just beat us without a true center" etc...Now Steve Kerr loses with team USA because they couldn't rebound mainly, and GS now goes out to possibly sign DH.

I know there is/was a lockeroom risk. But If the playoffs started today, and either of our 3 Bigs went down between Al, KP and RW (sadly very possible) who would you trust more to play, Dwight Howard or Kornet??

The comeback was that he was playing in Asia, because no nba team thought he was worth signing.

As for who I’d trust to play more in that scenario? Neither lol, they’d both suck and we wouldn’t be able to win if they played real minutes.

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Interesting. Some last year advocated for Boston to sign D Howard. Me included. But at least a few comebacks were "GS just beat us without a true center" etc...Now Steve Kerr loses with team USA because they couldn't rebound mainly, and GS now goes out to possibly sign DH.

I know there is/was a lockeroom risk. But If the playoffs started today, and either of our 3 Bigs went down between Al, KP and RW (sadly very possible) who would you trust more to play, Dwight Howard or Kornet??

Def Kornet.